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THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WELL WISHES.

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IT IS 10:04 AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE JUNE 28TH, 2022 MEETING OF THE HARRISO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' COURT TORDER.

COMMISSIONER CAGLE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE OUR GUEST.

[Reverend Lindsay Kirkpatrick of Asbury United Methodist Church in Pasadena.]

>> THIS MORNING OUR -- OUR INVOCATION IS BROUGHT BY PRECINCT 2 AND WILL MAKE THE INTRODUCTION.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE REVEREND LINDSAY KIRKPATRICK WHO WAS THE PASTOR OF ASBURY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH. SHE IS ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE BOX LUNCH MINISTRY AND MENTORS AND WORKS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MUCH MORE. REVEREND LINDSAY SERVES AS THE CURRENT LEADER OF PASADENA'S ONE CHURCH MINISTRY ALLIANCE, A GROUP OF 80 CHURCHES THAT SHARES MISSIONS AND MINISTRY.

SHE AND HER HUSBAND, A NASSAU -- A NASA ENGINEER, GO NASA, AND THEY HAVE THREE LOUD AND CRAZY KIDS.

IF IT IS OKAY FOR A REVEREND TO SAY THAT, I CAN SAY IT TOO.

HAVE I A CRAZY DAUGHTER. REVEREND -- RATHER ASBURY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH HAS BEEN A PART OF SOUTHEAST HOUSTON SINCE 1944 AND NOW AT THE CURRENT LOCATION, 5354 SPACE CENTER BOULEVARD, ASBURY UNITED METHODIST CHURCH IS IN THE GROWING COMMUNITY OF PASADENA, CLEAR LAKE AND DEER PARK AND THEY ARE KNOWN FOR HELPING THOSE IN NEED IN COOPERATION WITH THE COAT DRIVE, THANKSGIVING BASKETS AND MUCH, MUCH MORE.

I REGRET THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE -- I WAS AT A MEETING WITH AREA FAITH LEADERS AND DIDN'T GET THE CHANCE TO MEET YOU.

REVEREND KIRKPATRICK, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US BY LEADING

US. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR THIS INVITATION TODAY AND FOR ALL OF THE WORK EACH ONE OF YOU DO. LET'S PRAY TOGETHER.

DEAR FATHER GOD, WE WANT TO BEGIN TODAY BY SAYING THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE MANY BLESSINGS WE HAVE FOR OUR FAMILY , FOR FRIENDS, FOR WORK AND HOME.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE INTANGIBLE BLESSINGS TOO, LORD, COURAGE, FAITH, TRUST, HOPE, JOY. WE PRAY THAT WE WILL NOT WARY IN DOING GOOD, BUT THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US PERSEVERANCE, DEDICATION AND THE STRENGTH TO KEEP GOING DAY BY DAY.

WE KNOW TO THOSE THAT ARE GIVEN MUCH, MUCH IS REQUIRED.

AND THAT AS A RESULT OF THE MANY BLESSINGS WE HAVE, LORD, WE WANT TO BE YOUR SERVANT WHO ARE DOING MUCH PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS OR TO KNOW HOW TO USE THEIR VOICE.

WE PRAY, LORD -- LORD, FOR EACH OF THE LEADERS IN THE MEETING TODAY, THEY HAVE SO MUCH ABILITY TO HELP PEOPLE AND TO IMPROVE PEOPLE'S LIVES. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO IMPACT PEOPLE'S DAY-TO-DAY LIFE THE MOST.

I ASK THAT YOU BLESS EACH ONE OF THEM.

I PRAY, LORD, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM AND GUIDANCE AND THAT YOU WOULD BLESSHE T WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING FOR THE GOOD OF OURUP KPHAOBTD -- COMMUNITY AND FOR THE GOOD EACH PERSON IN IT.IV WE GE THIS TIMEOR TO YOU, LD, CHRIST WEE OF JESUS ENPRAY.

AM. >> THANK YOU, REVEREND.

APPRECIATE YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.D

Y'ALL HAVE A GOO MEETING. >> THANK YOU,. RECEIVE --

REVEREND >> WE HILLARY CITE -- WE WILL RECITE THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDERGOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND NOW FOR THE TEXAS PLEDGE.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE.

TEXAS, ONE STATE, UNDERGOD, ONE AN INDIVISIBLE.

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>> SO I MADE IT TWO AND A HALF YEARS WITHOUT COVID.

NOW I HAVE IT. DEFINITELY FEELING THE USUAL SYMPTOMS. I STILL HAVE MY TASTE BUDS WHICH IS GREAT AND NOW MY VOICE IS A LITTLE TOUCH AND GO HERE SO BEAR WITH ME AND I'M ALSO AT HOME WHICH MEANS I'M WITH MY CAT.

IF YOU SEE A CAT, SHE WILL BE EXCITED TO HAVE HER TIME IN THE SPOTLIGHT. I AM GRATEFUL THAT I AM FEELING STRONG AND THE SYMPTOMS ARE COMFORTABLE.

I GOT THE FULL VACCINE ROUND AND THE BOOSTERS TO THE EXTENT I QUALIFY FOR THEM AND JUST GLAD THAT WE HAVE MADE SO MUCH PROGRESS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS PANDEMIC.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS WHO ARE THERE IN PERSON.

I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE QUORUM, AND I'M HAPPY TO JOIN YOU GUYS THIS MORNING.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: CHICKEN SOUP, JUDGE.

CHICKEN SOUP. >> LINA HIDALGO: BUT, YES.

I'VE GOT MY TEA AND -- I'VE GOT MY TEA AND MY LOZENGES AND WE WILL BE GOOD. WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS TO TAKE OUT OF ORDER THIS MORNING INCLUDING SOME RESOLUTIONS THAT INCLUDES SOME ACTION ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE IS MY RESOLUTION.

>> CAREFUL BREATHING AROUND YOUR CAT, JUDGE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: I KNOW. IT IS GOOD SHE DOESN'T KNOW I HAVE COVID. SHE WOULD BE LIKE, YEAH, YOU FED

[Emergency/Supplemental items (Part 1 of 3)]

ME. SO I HAVE ITEMS 306 AND 307.

OBVIOUSLY WE ALL SAW THE NEWS COMING OUT OF THE SUPREME COURT LAST WEEKEND. IT WAS NOT A SURPRISE, OF COURSE WE HAD SEEN THE LEAKED DRAFT AND SO THERE WAS A SENSE THAT SOMETHING MIGHT BE COMING. I HAVE TO SAY, PERHAPS I WAS A BIT IN DENIAL. WHEN I SAW IT MY HEART SANK AND I THINK AT LEAST AS THE POLLS SHOW, SO HAVE THE HEARTS OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT SOME LEVEL OF ABORTION ESPECIALLY IN CASES OF RAPE AND INCEST.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE THIS RULING AND THE NEAR COMPLETE BAN OF ABORTION IN TEXAS WILL HAVE ON THE HEALTH OF SO MANY WOMEN AND DO TO PUSH ABORTIONS UNDERGROUND AGAIN THAT CAUSES SO MANY BAD PROCEDURES.

I WANT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS HARRIS COUNTY.

WHAT I TOLD THE COMMUNITY WHEN THIS FIGHT BEGAN AND ALL THROUGHOUT AND WE KNOW THIS HAS BEEN UNDER THREAT FOR A LONGTIME IS A COMMITMENT TO SAY I AM NOT GOING TO CROSS MY HANDS AND LET THINGS HAPPEN. I AM GOING TO SEE WHAT CAN WE DO? WE CAN SEE WHAT CAN WE DO AND IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN'T DO, WE WON'T DO IT.

BUT TO THE EXTENT THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO WE WILL FIND IT AND GET TO WORK AND LOOK OUT FOR THE SAFETY OF WOMEN AND FAMILIES AND LOOK TO REPRESENT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ACTING OUT OF STEP. ANYWAY.

>> I HAVE THE TWO ITEMS AND YOU HAVE THE RESOLUTION.

I WILL LET YOU READ YOUR RESOLUTION.

>> JUDGE, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THESE ISSUES AS WELL.

I ASKED MY STAFF TO LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY TO SEE IF THERE ARE BEST PRACTICES ON QUICK NOTICE. AND I THINK WE SAW THAT IN ST.

LOUIS AS A CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION TO USE ARPA FUNDS TO HELP WOMEN WHO COULD NOT AFFORD TO EXERCISE THEIR CHOICE.

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IT APPEAR THAT'S THE ARPA FUNDS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR REAMBURG -- FOR REIMBURSEMENT. WHATEVER COMES BACK FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THO HELP THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. OBVIOUSLY THE PROCEDURE IS LEGAL IN ILLINOIS, BUT THERE IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT USING LOCAL DOLLARS TO HELP. I HAVE A SERIES OF RESOLUTIONS AND SINCE I AM REMOTE I WON'T READ THEM.

WE WORK WITH A NUMBER OF ADVOCACY GROUPS.

THEY FOUND 78% OF TEXAS VOTERS SUPPORTED ABORTION ACCESS IN SOME FORM AND OBSTETRICS AND GYNECOLOGY SHOWS WOMEN WHO ARE PREGNANT OR RECENTLY GAVE BIRTH ARE TWICE AS LIKELY TO DIE BY HOMICIDE THAN ANY OTHER CALLS OF MATERNAL MORTALITY AND AT THE HANDS OF AN INMATE PARTNER. WE TRY TO PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO IT, THE RISK OF DEATH ASSOCIATED WITH CHILDBIRTH.

IT IS APPROXIMATELY 14 TIMES HIGHER THAN WITH AN ABORTION IN -- WITH AN ABORTION. IN HARRIS COUNTY WE HAVE A HIGHER MORBI IDITY. MORBIDITY HAD AN INCREASE AND WE PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS. AND I KNOW A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE WANTED TO WORK ON THIS, BUT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME I WILL MOVE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION.

>> COMMISSIONER, IS THIS 311? >> YES.

YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE ME BECAUSE I'M READINGY MEMAIL, BUTT IIS AOL RESUTION THATM I ANOT SURE IOF THETEM NUMBER.

>> REGARDINGME THE SUPRE COURT DECISIONOE OVERTURNING R VS.

WADE? >> YES.

AND JUDGE, THESO SECOND RES -- THE SECOND ONE I HAVE, I THINKUC ALL OF US WERE TOHEDOM.

>> LINA HIDALGO: CMISSIONER ELLIS, LET'S VOTE ON THE ROE V.

WADE ITEMS, IF YOU DON'T MIND. AND THEN WE WILL GET TO THE NEXT

ONE. >> RODNEY ELLIS: AND WERE THERE

ANY SPEAKERS, JUDGE HIDALGO? >> LINA HIDALGO: TIFFANY?

>> YES. >> LINA HIDALGO: GO AHEAD.

>> THE FIRST IS BLAIR WALLACE SPEAKING IN PERSON.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> GOOD MORNING.

I AM BLAIR WALLACE AND I USE SHE/HER PRONOUNS.

I AM WITH THE ACLU OF TEXAS. I AM HERE TO SUPPORT 306, 307 AND 311 SIMPLY BECAUSE ABORTION IS BASIC HEALTHCARE AND ABORTION IS FREEDOM. SINCE 2019 I HAVE, WOULDED TIRELESSLY IN COUNTIES TO COMBAT LOCAL ABORTION BANS.

I HAVE SEEN OVER AND OVER THE POWER THEY HAVE OVER REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. WE NEED POLICY THAT'S SUPPORT ABORTION ACCESS AND LIBERATION OF OUR WHOLE LIVES NOW.

THE SUPREME COURT'S RULING DOES NOT CHANGE THE NEED FOR ABORTION ACCESS AND WILL CAUSE IRREVOCABLE HARM.

HARRIS COUNTY MUST URGENTLY ACT TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY.

EVERYONE HERE LOVES SOMEONE THAT HAS HAD AN ABORTION.

EVERYONE. >> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT IS ASHLEY WASHINGTON. SHE WILL BE SPEAKING VIRTUALLY ON THIS ITEM. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> HI.

I AM ASHLEY WASHINGTON AND I AM A SOCIAL WORKER WHO HAS WORKED WITH PEOPLE SINCE 2006. ABORTION IS HEALTHCARE AND IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO CONDEMN AND SHAME THE SUPREME COURT'S DECISION, WE NEED BOLD, SWIFT LEADERSHIP AND ACTIONS THAT MAKE ABORTION AVAILABLE AND ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE TO ALL PREGNANT PEOPLE. AND THIS MEANS ALLOCATING CITY FUNDING TO LOCAL ABORTION FUNDS TO THE PEOPLE WHO WILL HAVE TO

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TAKE TIME OFF WORK. MANY ARE WORKING LOW-WAGE JOHN -- JOBS WITHOUT PAID TIME OFF AND WITHOUT BENEFITS.

SOME PEOPLE ARE DEPENDENT ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE WITHOUT TRANSPORTATION AND WILL HAVE TO TRAVEL FOR ABORTION CARE.

WE REALLY NEED TO ALLOCATE SWIFTLY MONEY FOR THOSE FUNDS AS OTHER COUNTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE DOING.

WE MUST IMAGINE A HARRIS COUNTY THAT WILL MAKE ABORTION POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE AND POSSIBLE ACROSS OUR COUNTY.

THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS PAUL PABLO VALDEZ SPEAKING IN PERSON ON THIS ITEM. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

I AM PABLO VALUE TKESZ. I AM A RETIRED U.S. DIPLOMAT AND SERVED FOR THE U.S. 20 YEARS ABROAD AS A REGISTERED ENGINEER.

I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE COMMUNITY'S APPRECIATION FOR RESOLUTION 1 -- I'M SORRY, WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT COMMISSIONER ELLIS PRESENTED. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN AS A COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT VERY MUCH THE COUNTY JUDGE HIDALGO'S LEADERSHIP WITH THE -- ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF OUR DAUGHTERS AND OUR SISTERS AND ALL OF THE WOMEN IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT IS CRITICAL AT THIS TIME. I ENCOURAGE THE COUNTY AND THE COMMISSIONERS TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO EXPANDOM WEN'S RIGHTS FORAI A FR, SAFE AFFORDABLEHC HEALTARE.

THANK YOUCH VERY MU. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 7, ANDREA GREER SPEAKING VIRTUALLY ON THIS ITEM.

YOU HAVE ONEHE MINUTE. GO AAD.

>> THANK YOU. I AMAM ANDREA GREER AND I A LAWYER AND RESIDENT OF PRECINCT 1 AND SPEAKING TO RESOLUTION I WANT TO URGE THE COURT TO FOLLOW THE GUIDANCE OFIS COMMISSIONER ELLIS ON TH RULING AND SUPPORT THISPE RESOLUTION.

LOTS OF OPLE ALREADY HAVE SPOKEN TO THE TOTALITY OF IT.

I WANT THE RECORD TO SHOW THAT A VOTE FOR THIS RESOLUTION IS IN PART A VOTE TO PROTECT SPECIFICALLY VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. A VOTE AGAINST IT WILL PUT VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND DOMESTIC ABUSE AT RISK OF DEATH.

THE LAW THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT ONCE ISSUED OUTLAWS ABORTION AND THERE IS A CODE OF SILENCE WHETHER THE TEXAS LAW WILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE WELL-DOCUMENTED FACT THAT PREGNANT WOMEN DIE BY HOMICIDE MORE OFTEN THAN THEY DIE OF ANY OTHER PREGNANCY-RELATED CAUSE. THE PREGNANCY ITSELF CAN PUT THEM AT RISK OF BEING KILLED. AND TWO, I KNOW THE MEMBERS OF THIS COURT SAY THEY ARE CHAMPIONS WHO PROTECT VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU HAVE TO

PASS THIS RESOLUTION. >> THANK YOU.

YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 40, JESSICA PETERSON SPEAKING VIRTUALLY. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> HI.

THIS IS JESSICA PETERSON. I AM A TEACHER IN HARRIS COUNTY, A MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER. I WAS CALLING TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I AM VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF THIS BASIC HUMAN RIGHT FOR WOMEN.

I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE MINORITY AND THE UNDER SERVED POPULATION IN HARRIS COUNTY, THEIR ACCESS TO SAFE ABORTION AND THE FACT THAT WITH THIS RULING AND WOMEN HAVE TO TRAVEL HUNDREDS OF MILES TO HAVE THIS BASIC RIGHT OVER THEIR BODY.

THAT'S MY PIECE RIGHT THERE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 43, SKY FREDERICKS SPEAKING IN PERSON.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTES. >> I AM SKY FREDERICKS AND A STUDENT AT RICE UNIVERSITY. I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF AGENDA ITEM 311. I AM THE OLDEST DAUGHTER OF A SINGLE MOM AND A FORMER TITLE 10 RECIPIENT WHICH I RECEIVED AT PLANNED PARENTHOOD CLINIC. AT 16 I WAS A SURVIVOR OF SEXUAL ASSAULT. NONE OF THESE IDENTITIES WERE MY CHOICE, BUT THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT TO CARRY A CHILD TO TERM WAS STILL MINE. THAT CHANGED LAST WEEK.

ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE IS THE REASON I AM HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. AS A RESULT OF THE BLATANT HUH POBG KRAU SEE AND -- HIPOCRACY, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE.

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I WILL REPEAT IT. PEOPLE WILL DIE.

SURVIVORS' VOICES MATTER EVEN WHEN WE ARE NOT COMING FROM AN ELITE UNIVERSITY. ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE HAS NEVER BEEN MORE VITAL THAN IN THIS MOMENT, SO PLEASE LISTEN TO THOSE IMPACTED MOST AND SHOW UP FOR THE PEOPLE YOU ARE MEANT TO REPRESENT. CONDEMNATION IS THE LEAST YOU

CAN DO. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YOUR TIME IS UP. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU.

>> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 42, MICHELLE SHAPEY YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MICHELLE SHAPEY.

I AM IN DISTRICT 2 AND I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN HARRIS COUNTY AND I HAVE LIVED HERE MY ENTIRE LIFE.

AS WE ALL KNOW, THE SUPREME COURT HAS ELIMINATED A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT THAT WE ARE ENTITLED TO.

WHILE I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE AGENDA ITEM TODAY.

HARRIS COUNTY NEEDS TO ACT URGENTLY TO MAKE ABORTION AVAILABLE TO ALL THOSE WHO NEED ACCESS TO THIS AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DECIDE ABOUT OUR FAMILIES.

WE NEED REPRODUCTIVE AND ABORTION DECISIONS ACCESSIBLE.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 44, KAYLA SPEAKING IN PERSON. HAVE YOU ONE MINUTE.

-- YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> GOOD MORNING.

I AM KAYLA AND I ATTEND RICE UNIVERSITY.

WHEN I WOKE UP ON FRIDAY 50 YEARS OF PRECEDENT WAS THROWN AWAY AS MEN NOW HOLD THE RIGHT TO CONTROL OUR BODIES AND PERSONAL HEALTHCARE DECISIONS AS WOMEN.

IN MANY CASES, ABORTIONS ARE HAD BY TEENAGE WOMEN LIKE ME.

THEY ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO CARE FOR THEMSELVES AND MUCH LESS THEIR CHILDREN. WOMEN AGES 18 TO 24 WHO ARE COLLEGE STUDENTS ARE THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY THAN WOMEN IN GENERAL TO EXPERIENCE SEXUAL VIOLENCE.

I EXPERIENCED SEXUAL ASSAULT, ABUSE, VIOLENCE AND MUCH MORE.

IMAGINE IF I WERE A GROUP OF WOMEN WHO WAS PREGNANT AND CAN NO LONGER CONTINUE THE EDUCATION I WORKED SO HARD FOR.

IF YOU CAN'T HEAR THE CRIES OF THE WOMEN BEING RAPED AND AT RISK OF DYING, THINK ABOUT THE WOMEN WHO COULD HAVE BEEN YOUR DOCTORS AND YOUR LAWYERS, BUT LOST THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN THEY WOKE UP ON FRIDAY MORNING. THANK YOU.

I STRONGLY URGE THE PASSAGE OF THIS RESOLUTION.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 45, MARCY SPEAKING VIRTUALLY. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> YES.

I'M A PROFESSOR IN HIGHER EDUCATION AND ALSO A SOCIAL JUSTICE ADVOCATE FOR REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE.

I AM SO IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM, THIS AGENDA ITEM.

I WANT TO URGE HARRIS COUNTY TO MAKE ABORTION ACCESSIBLE.

WE NEED TO MAKE AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT AND PROVIDE FUNDING FOR ABORTION CARE. IT IS TIME TO FIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND PUSH FOR BOLD SOLUTIONS AND ADDRESS THE REALITY OF GETTING AN ABORTION AND ENSURE THAT ABORTION IS AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE FOR ANYONE WHO NEEDS IT.

DUE TO RACISM AND OTHER FORMS OF DISCRIMINATION IN THE U.S., THE IMPACT OF ROWE SRER -- ROE VS. WADE WILL CAUSE HARM FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR, WOMEN AND THOSE LIVING ON LOWER INCOME AND MEMBERS OF THE LGBTQIA COMMUNITY. I URGE THE COURT TO DO MORE THAN

WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 46.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> I AM A MEMBER OF REPO POWER, HOUSTON. I AM HERE THAT CONDEMNS THE SUPREME COURT'S OVERTURNING OF ROE VS. WADE.

THEY NEED TO GET THE HEALTHCARE THEY NEED AND WHEN THEY NEED IT AND ON A TIMELINE THAT WORKS FOR THEM.

DUE TO WHITE SUPREMACY CAPITALISM AND COLONIALISM AND OTHER FORMS OF DISCRIMINATION IN THE U.S., THE IMPACT OF THIS DECISION WILL CAUSE DISPROPORTION AND HARM FOR BLACK, INTKEUPBLG -- INDIGENOUS, TRANS, OTHER PEOPLE OF COLOR, LGBTQ PLUS PEOPLE, FOLKS, THE LIST IS LITERALLY SO LONG.

WHEN ANYBODY SITS AT A MARGINALIZATION OR INTERSECTION OF THE MARGINALIZATION THEY WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE OVERTURNING OF ROE VS. WADE.

ABORTION IS A GOOD THING. ABORTION MAKES OUR FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITIES BETTER. I URGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE YOU SERVE.

THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS STEPHANIE VALDEZ SPEAKING IN PERSON. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

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>> I AM AN ORGANIZER AND ACTIVIST, BUT I AM A PERSON WITH A AOEUT RUSS. I AM -- UTERUS.

I AM SUPPORTING 311. NO MATTERHA WT YOU LOOK LIKE OR WHERE YOU COME FROM, HEALTHND A YOUR WELL BEING SHOULD BEHA WT YOU CONSIDER WHEN MAKINGHI TS DECISION.

NOOL PITICALGE ANDA SHOULD COME IN BETWEEN THAT.

LAND OF THE FREEES UNLS YOUE HAV ARU UTES.

ABORTION JUSTICE CAN'T WAIT. HARRISNT COUY LEADERS MUST ACT NOW. CITIES AND STATES HAVETH LEAD EA Y WITH OTHER SOLUTIONSR ON OU ABORTIONS. RIGHT MUNICIPALNG FUNDI ANDIO RELOCATN OF THE FUNDS FORN ABORTIOOR FOI A TY ORDINANCE FORNO A CITY T P TOROSECUTE ABORTION WOULD MAKESI A GNIFICANTE. DIFFERENC IIS URGE HARR COUNTY LEAVED -- LEADERS TO STAND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OFND HISTORY A MAKE HARRISY COUN A SAFE PLACE RIGHTS.TIVE THANK YOU FOR YOURAN TIME. D ASAS ALWAYS, TEX FOREVER.NE

>> UP XT IS CARLY SPEAKING VIRTUALLY.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE, PLEASE. >> HI.IS MY NAME M CARLY AND I A AN H OB/GYN PA INARRIS COUNTY.

I WANT TO SPEAK OF THE P WITNESS OFAIN.

I HAVE SEEN THOSE THATRE GREATLY DESI PREGNANCY BE FORCED TO FOR CARE WHENTE THEY ARE TOLD THEIR FETUSN HASO BRAIAND CAN'T LIVE OUTSIDE THE WOMB AT I 20 WEEKS.

THISS BECAUSE WE CAN -- CANNOT DETECT THESE ANOMALIESTH UNTIL THE PREGNANCY. I HAD THE PHARMACIST DENYNT GIVG MY PATIE THE NECESSARYVE MEDICATION TO GI HER MISCARRIAGE MANAGEMENTIO BECAUSE HE QUESTNED HER INTENTIONS.D- I HAVE SEEN THE BLOOSTAINED CLOTHES OF THOSE TFOOO SCARED TO COME IN R CARE WHEN THEY HAD A LEGAGL ABORTION IN A NEIGHBORIN STATE AND DIDN'T KNOW IT IS ABNORMAL TO BLEED FOR EIGHT WEEKS AFTERWARDS.S. I HAVE SEEN THE TEAR I HEARD THE PLEAS. I HAVE BEEN RENDERED HELPLESS TO PROVIDE CARE FOR MY PATIENTS. WE LIVE IN ONE OF THE LARGEST MEDICAL CENTERBA IN THE COUNTRY. HOW EMRRASSINGE THAT WE CANNOT PROVID OUR PATIENTS WITHSE BASIC CARE.

PLEA HELP RESTORE THE TRUST IN OUR DOCTORS AND RESTORE THE

SAFETY OF OUR HOSPITALS -- >> THANK YOU -BGS MA'AM.

>> CONDEMNING THE COURT'S DECISION IS NOT ENOUGH.

WE NEED ACTION. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT IS NUMBER 49, REBECCA FLOWERS SPEAKING VIRTUALLY.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD.

>> [INAUDIBLE]TI REPRODUCTIVE JUSTICE IS ESSENAL.

THE HEART OF THE CITY IS THE DIVERSITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND EVERY ONE SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK CARE AND MAKE MEDICAL DECISIONS WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE.

ABORTION BANS PREVENT PEOPLE FROM RECEIVING ESSENTIAL LIFE-SAVING CARE AND LEADING TO VIOLENCE BY NOT ONLY FORCING PEOPLE TO GIVE BIRTH, BUT [INAUDIBLE] PROSECUTORS TO INVESTIGATE AND ARREST PREGNANT PEOPLE.

PEOPLE ARE LESS LIKELY TO HAVE ACCESS TO CARE AND MORE LIKELY TO BE REPORTED TO AND TARGETED BY THE POLICE.

[INAUDIBLE] PRENATAL CARE AND NOT VIOLENCE [INAUDIBLE] IN ADDITION TO CONDEMNING THE DECISION, I URGE HARRIS COUNTY TO FOLLOW THE LEAD OF OTHER COUNTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY BY TAKING URGENT ACTION TO MAKE ABORTION ACCESSIBLE.

WE NEED ACCESS TO CLINIC THAT'S OFFER CARE AND MUNICIPAL FUNDING TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS SPEAKER 51, MELINDA EVANS SPEAKING VIRTUALLY. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> HELLO.

MY NAME IS MELINDA EVANS. I AM THE MOTHER OF TWO YOUNG GIRLS. ONE IS SEVEN AND ONE IS TWO.

I AM ALSO A GIRL SCOUT TROOP LEADER OF 12 YOUNG GIRLS.

ABORTION IS HEALTHCARE. IT IS NECESSARY THAT ALL OF OUR CITIZENS HAVE ACCESS TO SAFE ABORTIONS IN ORDER TO GET THE CARE THEY NEED HEALTHY LIVES. WE ARE A DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

LIMITING ACCESS TO ABORTIONS WILL AFFECT INDIGENOUS PEOPLE, PEOPLE OF LOW INCOME DISPROPORTIONATELY.

PREGNANCY IS DANGEROUS IN OUR COUNTRY.

ABORTION IS SAFE AND IT IS NECESSARY AND IT IS A HUMAN RIGHT. I BELIEVE THIS AND I WANT TO RAISE MY DAUGHTERS IN A WORLD WHERE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO SAFE ABORTIONS AND ABORTION CARE. I WANT ALL WOMEN AND PEOPLE WITH UTERUSES WHO ARE IN DANGER OF ANY KIND TO --

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM, YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 52 SPEAKING VIRTUALLY. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF

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ACCESS TO ABORTION. TEXANS INCLUDING HOUSTONIANS WANT ACCESS TO ABORTIONS WITHOUT CRIMINALIZATION.

BECAUSE OF THE SUPREME COURT RULING, OUR COMMUNITIES ARE SUFFERING. THE RULING IS CURRENTLY DISPROPORTIONATELY HURTING BLACK AND BROWN FOLKS, PARTICULARLY IMMIGRANTS, YOUNG PEOPLE AND THE LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITY.

HARRIS COUNTY NEEDS TO MAKE ABORTION ACCESSIBLE.

I HOPE HARRIS COUNTY IS THE BEAR MINIMUM AND WE PUT OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS FIRST AND KNOW NOAH BORINGS IS A LIFE-SAVING PROCEDURE THAT EVERYONE DESERVES ACCESS TO.

AND IT IS A CHOICE EVERYONE SHOULD MAKE ON THEIR OWN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 53, MARIN HART SPEAKING VIRTUALLY.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>> I AM A COLLEGE STUDENT AND LIKE MANY OTHER HARRIS COUNTY RESIDENTS I AM DEVASTATED BY THE NEWS OF THE SUPREME COURT DECISION AND THE IMPENDING TOTAL BAN IN TEXAS.

WHAT INFURIATES ME MORE IS THE BREADTH OF THE IMPACT AN ABORTION BAN WILL FALL ON MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.

TYPICALLY PEOPLE OF COLOR AND LGBTQ FOLKS, PEOPLE LIKE ME.

BUT I HAVE HOPE THAT OFFICIAL WEULZ ACT IMMEDIATELY TO ALLOW ABORTION ACCESS. APPLYING FUNDS IS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE AND EQUITABLE AND I SUPPORT ITEMS 306 AND SPHRAOE -- 307. MAY HARRIS COUNTY BE A LEADER IN PROTECTING ABORTION, THIS CRUCIAL RIGHT TO CONTROL OUR BODIES AND OUR FUTURE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT IS SPEAKER 54 SPEAKING VIRTUALLY. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE, PLEASE.

>> GOOD MORNING. I MOVED TO HARRIS COUNTY AFTER HARVEY IN 2017. I WAS HERE FOR [INAUDIBLE] BOTH DEVASTATING EVENTS. I SAW NEIGHBORS GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO HELP NEIGHBORS. THAT'S WHAT WE DO HERE.

I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF STRONG OPINIONS ON THE SUPREME COURT OPINION, BUT THE COURT OPENED THE DOOR FOR OUT RIGHT BANS ON ABORTION. YOU YOU CAN'T BAN ABORTION, ONLY SAFE ABORTIONS. IT MAKES AN IMPOSSIBLE DECISION MORE DANGEROUS FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR.

THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT CAN WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER WITHOUT IMMEDIATE ACTION LIVES WILL BE LOST UNNECESSARILY.

I SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS IN THEIR TIME OF NEED, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF COLOR AND CONDEMN THE SUPREME COURT'S

OVERTURNING OF ROE V. WADE. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT IS SPEAKER 56 SPEAKING VIRTUALLY.

HAVE YOU ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>> HI. [INAUDIBLE].

AND I AM A [INAUDIBLE] AS A WOMAN AND MORE IMPORTANTLY A WOMAN OF COLOR. I BELIEVE THAT ALL PEOPLE SHOULD BE TRUSTED TO LIVE THEIR LIVES AND GET THE HEALTHCARE THEY NEED. ABORTION IS PART OF THE HEALTHCARE. WE NEED POLICY THAT'S SUPPORT ABORTION ACCESS IN HARRIS COUNTY.

I WOULD LOVE IF HARRIS COUNTY COULD BE A LEADER TO ENSURE THAT ABORTION IS AVAILABLE WITHOUT BARRIERS.

I KNOW HARRIS COUNTY IT IS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT IS SPEAKER 57, SARA AHMED SPEAKING VIRTUALLY.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>> I AM URGING HARRIS COUNTY TO PASS THE RESOLUTION CONDEMNING THE U.S. SUPREME COURT'S DECISION TO OVERTURN ROE V.

WADE. AT LEAST 80% OF ABORTIONS PERFORMED ON TEXAS RESIDENTS 10 WEEKS OR EARLIER AND TEXAS PASSED SOME OF THE MOST RESTRICTIVE LAWS IN THE COUNTRY PROHIBITING WOMEN GET AUGUST BORINGS JUST SIX WEEKS INTO A PREGNANCY. [INAUDIBLE] 46% COMPARED WITH THE SAME PERIOD IN 2020. THIS DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTS BLACK WOMEN WHO HAVE HIGHER RATES OF UNINTENDED PREGNANCY DUE TO LACK OF ACCESS OF SEX EDUCATION AND CON CONTRACEPTION.

BLACK WOMEN ARE FOUR TIMES MORE LIKELY TO DIE PREGNANCY COMPLICATIONS THAN WHITE WOMEN. THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO GET HEALTHCARE AND ARE FORCED OUT OF STATE AND FORCED OUT OF SCHOOL AND RAISE A BABY ON THEIR OWN. IT IS NOT ONLY ABOUT --

[INAUDIBLE]. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM, YOUR TIME

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IS UP. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT IS SPEAKER 59, LISA WARTENBURG SPEAKING VIRTUALLY.

YOU WITH ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>> ABORTION ACCESS IS NOT JUST A WOMEN'S ISSUE.

IT IS A TRANS ISSUE AND A QUEER ISSUE AND A CHILDREN'S ISSUE.

A CHILD BORN TO PARENTS UNABLE TO TAKE CARE OF IT WILL SUFFER AND ALSO BECAUSE THIS IS A WORLD IN WHICH CHILDREN ARE RAISED.

JUDAISM SEES THAT A BIRTHING PERSON IS UNCONTESTEDLY A BIRTHING PERSON FIRST. IT IS A RACIAL PERSON BECAUSE IT WILL AFFECT BROWN AND BLACK PERSONS MOST.

IT IS A HEALTHCARE ISSUE AND ECONOMIC ISSUE TRAPPING PEOPLE INTO CYCLES OF GENERATIONAL POVERTY.

COUNTLESS DEATHS WILL TKRAPBS -- TRANSPIRE.

TO APPEAL TO THE RIGHTS OF LAWMAKERS IS A WASTE OF TIME.

TO THEM, DEATH IS THE POINT. THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BECAUSE THEY SET ASIDE FETUSES THEY ABANDON AS BABIES.

ALL OF THESE DEATHS ARE A SACRIFICE AT THE ALTAR OF THEIR CHRISTIAN GOD. I DO APPEAL TO THIS COURT AND TO HARRIS COUNTY LAWMAKERS THAT PREGNANCY IS [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE

THE RIGHT TO -- >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 60 SPEAKING VIRTUALLY. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> GOOD MORNING.

I AM EMMA BROCKWAY CALLING IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 311.

I AM A LAWYER AND I AM HERE TO ASK HARRIS COUNTY'S LEADERS TO STAND UP FOR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS IN EVERY WAY THEIR CAPACITY ALLOWS. I AM ALSO HERE TO URGE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO PLEDGE SHE WILL NOT PURSUE CHARGES AGAINST ANYONE WHO PROVIDES AN ABORTION. HOUSTON IS ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE CITIES IN AMERICA. AND TEXAS' EXTREME LAW GOING INTO EFFECT WIT SUBSTANTIALLY AND DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT PEOPLE OF COLOR AND MARGINALIZED GROUPS.

PROMISES ARE NOT ENOUGH. ASSURANCES FROM OUR LEADERS ARE CRITICAL AS WE NAVIGATE THIS PROCESS AND STRATEGIZE LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 32, ASHLEY CRUZ. SHE IS SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM AS WELL AS 306 AND 307. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> MY NAME IS ASHLEY CRUZ.

I AM A RELATION COORDINATOR AT PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND HERE TO SUPPORT 311, 306 AND 307. ON FRIDAY THE SUPREME COURT ERASED 50 YEARS OF PRECEDENT ABORTION RIGHTS IN AMERICA.

THAT MEANS THOUSANDS OF TEXANS WILL GO WITHOUT ACCESS FUNDED BY SOCIAL HEALTHCARE. IT IS DEVASTATING.

ALL PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES AND HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE WHEN THEY NEED IT AT A TIME THAT WORKS FOR THEM. THIS RULING IS NOT THE END OF THE FIGHT. [INAUDIBLE] THE DIGNITY THEY DESERVE AND WE WILL NOT BACK DOWN.

WE WILL BE LOUDER THAN EVER FOR PRO-ABORTION MAJORITY WILL SHINE [INAUDIBLE]. THAT IS WHY I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THESE MEASURES. I AM PROUD OF HARRIS COUNTY TAKING A STEP. I HOPE THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY MEASURES [INAUDIBLE] TO OUR COMMUNITY AND BEYOND.

THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 58, LAKEA. SPEAKING ON ITEM 311.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>> HI, I AM LAKEA. AND I AM A SOCIAL WORKER AND ABORTION COUNSELOR AT THE WOMEN'S CLINIC IN HOUSTON.

I HELP PROVIDE ACCESS TO ABORTION CARE TO THOUSANDS OF TEXANS A YEAR AND I AM A LICENSED SOCIAL WORKER.

I CON SPEAK -- I CAN SPEAK TO A FEW VERY REAL TRUTHS THAT WE AS A COUNTY DO NOT HAVE THE INTPRAU STRUCK -- INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT SUPPORT THE WOMEN WHO WANT TO END PREGNANCY WHEN THEY WANT OR NEED TO. AND I ALSO WANT TO SPEAK TO THE ISSUE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THAT A LOT OF OUR PATIENCE -- PATIENTS EXPERIENCE. TYPICALLY WHEN THEY ARE TIED TO PREGNANCY OR THROUGH CHILDREN WE WILL CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE THOSE THINGS AT HIGHER RATES AND FINALLY PEOPLE NEED ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE AND NOT JUST TO END THEIR PREGNANCY, BUT

[INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YOUR TIME IS UP. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU.

>> THOSE ARE ALL THE SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

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>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. >> RODNEY ELLIS: JUDGE, AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THREE UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON YOUR TWO.

THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT -- >> LINA HIDALGO: NO --

>> RODNEY ELLIS: IT IS -- AS THE FATHER OF THREE DAUGHTERS AND ONE BOY, ALL THREE ARE IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF THEM.

I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF EMOTION AROUND THESE ISSUES WHICH IS WHY WE WANT TO PUT FORWARD A RESOLUTION.

I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP BECAUSE AS MUCH AS THE RESOLUTIONS MATTER AND WE GO ON THE RECORD WITH THOUGHTFUL ACTIONS I HOPE THERE IS A WAY WE CAN PUT SOME FINANCIAL SUPPORT, AND EVEN IF WE CAN'T PAY FOR ALL OF IT, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE WHAT HAS BEEN A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT UP UNTIL THIS POINT, BUT I MOVE ADOPTION

OF ALL THREE AT THIS TIME. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER RAMSEY -- GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER RAMSEY.

>> TOM RAMSEY: I HAVE 50 YEARS OF THOUGHT AND PRAYER ABOUT THIS ISSUE, ALMOST EVERY DAY. I THINK A $ -- I THINK THE 63 MILLION LIVES LOST OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS AND THAT IS A GENERATION THAT IT IS HARD TO THINK ABOUT.

IT IS A SAD DAY TO THINK THAT IT HAS TAKEN US 50 YEARS TO DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE. I WILL BE NOT SUPPORTING ANY OF THE THREE AGENDA ITEMS. I THINK THERE IS CLEARLY A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE UNDER SERVED COMMUNITY.

THE 63 MILLION LIVES THAT HAVE BEEN LOST.

I THINK THERE ARE LEGAL ISSUES HERE, BUT I WILL BE OPPOSING ALL THREE ANDEM REMBERINGHE T 63 MILLION LIVES THAT WE HAVE

LOST IN THE LAST 50 YEARS. >> R. JACK CAGLE: WE STILL HAVE

SPEAKERS30 ON 6 AND 307. >> DO YOU WANTTA TO KE THOSE

SPEAKERS NOW? >> LINA HIDALGO: YES, PLEASE.

GOAD AHE. ,> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 17 SILVIA GARAYIN SPEAKG IN PERSON ON 306.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.HA >> TNK YOU.

SILVIA GARAY. I AMUL VERY GRATEF TO BE HEREISN THNT AWESOME COURY WHERE I WAS BORN,S. HOUSTON, TEXA TEXAS. WELL,RT I'M GONNA STA OFF WITH T SAYING THA -- I WILL TELLRE UH STORY AL QUICK OF ATI WONDERFUL, BEAUFUL, PRECIOUS LADY WHO WASAN MARRIEDO AWESOME PROVIDER, BUT AMA VERY CRUEL N BECAUSE OF HIS UP BRINGING. WHEN THEY FOUND OUT -- THEY WERE WHEN THEY FOUND OUT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THEIR FIFTHHE CHID HE TOLD R THAT SHE WAS TO GET ABORTED -- IN FACT, HE GAVERT HR STUFF TO ABO.

SHE FEARED HIM FOR THE BEATINGS, BUT SHE FEARED GOD MORE.

SHE DIDN'T --UL WHICH I AM BECAUSE I WAS THAT PERSON. I AM SO GRATEFUL TO HAVE NOT BEENFU ABORTED. I AM GRATEL ITOU WASN'T --

>> THANK Y, MA'AM, YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> THANK YOU.TH >> ADRIAN GARCIA: ANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU THAT I AM HERE. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 18.

TARA BULA SPEAKING ON 306 ANDIN 307.

YOU HAVE ONE MUTE. >> PEPBL CODE CHAPTER -- PEPBL -- PENAL, ABUSE OF PUBLIC CAPACITY.

IF THERE IS AN INTENT TO DEFRAUD ANOTHER HE INTENTIONALLY OR KNOWINGLY TO MISUSE HIS GOVERNMENT PROPERTY SERVICES, PERSONNEL OR ANY OTHER THING OF VALUE BELONGING TO THE GOVERNMENT THAT HAS COME TO THE PUBLIC SERVANT'S CUSTODY OF POSSESSION BY VIRTUE OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT. SECTION 307 ON THE AGENDA ASKED FOR LEGISLATIVE AND POLICY RESERVE -- RESEARCH OF GOVERNMENTAL PERSONNEL TO IDENTIFY AND RECOMMEND PROACTIVE

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LEGISLATIVE EFFORTS COMMISSIONERS COURT COULD PURSUE. YOUR JOB IS NOT LOBBYING OR LEGISLATION. BEFORE YOU ORDER ENTIRE AGENCIES FOR WHAT SEEMS LIKE CAMPAIGN LOBBYING WORK ON COUNTY DOLLARS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS THIS LEGAL? MY OPINION IS THIS IS A HUGE DEFRAUDING OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC'S TAXPAYER DOLLARS UTILIZED FOR PERSONAL BENEFIT.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER 19, RACHEL MEDFORD SPEAKING ON 306 AND 307. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

>> HI. MY NAME IS RACHEL BEDFORD AND I AM SPEAKING AGAINST 306 AND 307. ABORTION IS NOT HEALTHCARE.

DOCTORS ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE AN OATH TO FIRST DO NO HARM.

ABORTION IS MURDER AND HARMS THE UNBORN BABY.

UNBORN BABIES HAVE A HEARTBEAT AND THEIR LIVES ARE WORTH PROTECTING. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN PROTECTING OUR MOST VULNERABLE BABIES AND CHILDREN.

MY FAMILY HAS FOSTERED OVER 28 CHILDREN AND I HAVE 14 ADOPTED BROTHERS AND SISTERS, MANY OF WHICH CAME INTO OUR HOME FROM CHALLENGES AT BIRTH THEY HAD TO OVERCOME.

BOUGHT ALL ARE FORTH -- WORTH THE SACRIFICE IT HELPS TO SEE THEM SUCCEED. ALL HAVE BEEN ORDAINED BY GOD WHICH NONE WOULD HAVE FULFILLED IF ABORTED AND ALL AS IMPORTANT AS YOU AND I. IF THERE ARE CONCERNS FOR EXPANDING AND THE SAFETY OF WELL-BEING OF WOMEN, WHY NOT TALK ABOUT PREGNANCY CARE AND ADOPTION?

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM, YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS DAVID WELCH OF THE HOUSTON AIR PASTOR COUNCIL SPEAKING ON 306 AND 307.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> MY NAME IS DAVE WELCH, THE HOUSTON AREA PASTOR COUNCIL AND I AM REPRESENTING HUNDREDS OF CHURCHES IN HARRIS COUNTY OF EVERY COLOR AND EVERY BACKGROUND. LET'S MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR WHAT THIS IS ABOUT TODAY. ABORTION IS NOT HEALTHCARE.

IT IS NOT ABOUT RIGHTS. RIGHTS OF WOMEN TO CHOOSE.

THE ISSUE HERE AT HAND IS THE VALUE AND THE PURPOSE OF SACRED LIFE FROM CONCEPTION UNTIL NATURAL DEATH.

UNDER HUMAN LAW, IT IS UNJUST FOR THE TAKING OF AN INNOCENT HUMAN LIFE WITHOUT THE PRO IS SUCCESS OF LAW -- PROCESS OF LAW. UNDER THE CONSTITUTION IN THE UNITED STATES EVERY PERSON OF EVERY COLOR IS DUE PROCESS OF LAW BEFORE TAKING OF LIFE. THE UNBORN HAVE NO SUCH CHOICE.

THE 63 MILLION COMMISSIONER RAMSEY REFERENCED ARE THE VICTIMS OF AN AGENDA AND TODAY AS WE STAND BEFORE THIS COMMISSION, WE WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF THOSE ATTENDING CHURCHES IN THIS COMMUNITY BOTH CATHOLIC AND

PROTESTANT THAT WE REPRESENT -- >> THANK YOU, SIR.

YOUR TIME IS UP. >> NEXT IS JUANITA SPEAKING ON 306 AND 307. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

>> MY NAME IS JUANITA AND I AM AGAINST ITEM 306 AND 307.

WE DO NOT WANT OUR TAXES USED TO TRANSPORT WOMEN FOR ABORTIONS OR ANY TYPE OF ABORTION COUNSELING OR HELP FROM ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PRO-ABORTION. OUR COUNTRY IS IN SUCH A POSITION THAT WE NEED THE HELP OF GOD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD, YOU REALIZE THAT ANY VOLUNTARY TAKING OF INNOCENT LIFE IS A SATANIC SACRIFICE.

GOD IS NOT MOCKED. ABORTION IS NOT HEALTHCARE.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT ABORTION CLINICS ALSO SUPPORT THE ILLEGAL PRACTICE OF TISSUE HARVESTING AND ORGAN SELLING.

WE NEED TO QUICK OUGHT OF -- WE NEED TO QUIT ALL OF THESE PRACTICES. THE LIVES OF THESE CHILDREN ARE WANTED AND THEY ARE OUR FUTURE. I SUPPORT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ALREADY IN PLACE THAT WILL ASSIST PREGNANT WOMEN AND SUPPORT ADOPTION. I AM TOTALLY AGAINST 306 AND

307. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER 22, JOHN DOUGLAS SPEAKING ON 306 IN PERSON.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> LAST MONTH YOU, LENA, TWEETED OUT THAT IT IS YOUR JOB TO LOOK OUT FOR MY CONSTITUENTS' HEALTH AND SAFETY IN REGARDS TO ABORTION ACCESS.

I WISH YOU CARED MORE ABOUT THE RAMPANT CRIME TERRORIZING YOUR CON SPEUFP WENT INSTEAD -- CONSTITUENTS INSTEAD OF LOOKING FOR WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO MURDER THEIR PRE-BORN BABIES.

ADRIAN, I AM OVER HERE. IT HAS LEAD TO CRIME AND DISORDER WHILE YOU VIRTUE SIGNAL FROM YOUR CARE.

IT IS ONLY JUNE AND HOMICIDES HAVE INCREASED 24% IN 2020 AND WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF CRIMINALS OUT ON BOND COMMITTING NEW CRIMES EVERY DAY WHILE YOU AND YOUR DEMOCRAT COLLEAGUES SITCOM FOR THE PWHRAOE WITH SECURITY. HARRIS COUNTY RESIDENTS PAY THE ULTIMATE PRICE. IT IS IN THE EVENING NEWS AND ON THE NEWS STANDS DAILY. LET ME BE CLEAR.

WE ARE TIRED OF SUFFERING. LIVES DEPEND ON YOU AND PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF YOUR FAILED LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER 23, NOLAN

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SHULTZ SPEAKING IN PERSON ON 306.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. TODAY I'M HERE TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO ITEM 306. THIS PAST WEEKEND MILLIONS OF AMERICANS CELEBRATED THE VICTORY OF LIFE AFTER HALF A CENTURY OF ORGANIZING AND FIGHTING EVERY DAY TO PROTECT THE UNBORN.

NOW DEMOCRATS IN THIS COURT ARE ONCE AGAIN PAN TKORING TO THEIR BASE -- PANDORING OVER A BASE WHICH THE COURT HAS NO JURISDICTION OVER. THE COURT HAS JURISDICTION OVER KYLEE, THE 9-YEAR-OLD WHO WAS EXECUTED TWO WEEKS AGO IN THE HEIGHTS BY A MONSTER OUT ON BOND.

THIS COURT ALSO HAS JURISDICTION OVER THE 175 VICTIMS OF DISCRETIONARY BOND REFORM, YET HERE WE ARE DISCUSSING A POLICY WHICH THIS COURT HAS NO ROLE IN. INSTEAD OF WASTING THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY VIRTUE SIGNALING TO YOUR BASE, I IMPLORE YOU, HIDALGO, COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND COMMISSIONER ELLIS TO PUT THESE EFFORTS INTO PROTECTING YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE VICTIMIZED EVERY DAY BY RECKLESS LIFE-ENDANGERING POLICIES. I ALSO SAW THE DEMOCRAT CHAIR OF

HARRIS COUNTY OTIS -- >> THANK YOU.

YOUR TIME IS UP. >> 10 MORE SECONDS?

>> YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT IS LAUREN MORTON SPEAKING ON 306 AND 307.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> MY NAME IS LAUREN MORTON AND I AM A SENIOR OF THE FITNESS ORGANIZATION AND [INAUDIBLE] I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF 306, 307 AND 311.

WE KNOW THAT IN TEXAS WITH SB8 BANS ABORTION AFTER SIX WEEKS BEFORE MOST PEOPLE KNOW THEY ARE PREGNANT AND NOW THE BAN AFFECTS ALL ABORTIONS ILLEGAL. IT IS IMPERATIVE HARRIS COUNTY STANDS IN SUPPORT OF HEALTHCARE. WE NEED TO PROMOTE AND ACCESS SEX EDUCATION WELL-BEING OF CITIZENS. WHILE THEY THINK IT IS OKAY TO USE OUR BODY AS POLITICAL PLAYGROUNDS, MY FUTURE IS MY OWN. BY DENYING ACCESS TO ABORTION, CONTRACEPTIVE AND SEX EDUCATION THE DECISION IS BEING MADE FOR ME AND OWL -- ALL OTHERS AT RISK OF GETTING PREGNANT.

COMMISSIONER RAMSEY, INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE 63 MILLION LIVES, LET'S FOCUS ON THE WOMEN HERE AND THE CHILDREN SUFFERING IN FOSTER CARE. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT IS JUSTIN BEDFORD ON 306 AND 307.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> MY NAME IS JUSTIN BEDFORD.

ABORTION HAS BEEN BANNED IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS HAS SPOKEN AND SAID WE DO NOT WANT OUR BABIES KILLED BECAUSE OF LIFE CHOICES OR OTHER EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. I QUESTION THE LEGALITY AND THE MORALITY OF HOLDING A MEETING TO APPROPRIATE COUNTY FUNDS TO FIND A LOOPHOLE FOR WOMEN IN THE STATE OF TEXAS TO KILL THEIR BABIES. PLANNED PARENTHOOD NOR ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION CAN CONDUCT THE KILLING OF BABIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, BUT ODDLY ENOUGH, THE EXTRA SERVICES SUCH AS FAMILY PLANNING AND LOW-COST CONTRACEPTIVE EDUCATION THAT -- EXTRA SERVICES THAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD ALREADY PROVIDED ARE NOW BEING LOOKED INTO BY DEMOCRAT MEMBERS OF THIS COURT.

WE AS THE TAXPAYERS DO NOT NEED OUR MONEY GOING TOWARD THESE SERVICES. ABORTION IS NOT HEALTHCARE.

IT IS MURDER. ABORTION IS NOT A RIGHT.

IT IS MURDER. ABORTION IS TAKING A LIFE LIKE 63 MILLION LIVES AS COMMISSIONER RAMSEY SAID.

IT IS NOT ABOUT HEALTHCARE. IT IS ABOUT CHOICES.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> NEXT IS MARLON AVILA. >> I AM MARLON AVIL A AND A SENIOR AT UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON. KWHR-PL -- I AM HERE TO TESTIFY FOR 306, 307 AND 311 BECAUSE I AM AWARDED MY OWN BODY'S AUTONOMY. PREGNANT PEOPLE DESERVE PRIVACY AND AUTONOMY REGARDING HEALTHCARE DECISIONS INCLUDING THE DECISION TO SEEK AN ABORTION REGARDLESS OF TEXAS STANCE ON THE PROCEDURE. THE SUPREME COURT DECISION FEELS MUCH MORE SHOCKING TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN BLOCKED BY ACCESSING ABORTION. FOR MANY PEOPLE WITH LOW INCOME, BLACK, INTKEUPBLG -- INDIGENOUS AND IMMIGRANTS, THE RIGHT TO ABORTION WAS NEVER GUARANTEED. THE SAME COMMUNITY -- [INAUDIBLE] ARE THE SAME COMMUNITY THAT'S ARE CRIMINALIZED AND PUNISHED FOR EVERYDAY SURVIVAL.

I URGE YOU TO WORK ALONGSIDE ABORTION ADVOCATES TO FUND SOLUTIONS TO MINIMIZE THE HARM OF THIS BAN TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU.

>> NEXT IS SUZANNA JIMENEZ SPEAKING ON 306 AND 307.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> I AM SUZANNE GNAW JIMENEZ AND A STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON AND A CURRENT MEMBER OF THE UHD CHAPTER OF THESE NOT WORDS.

I AM HERE FOR AGENDA ITEMS 306, 307, 311 BECAUSE CHOICES OVER MY BODY SHOULD NOT BE MADE BY THE GOVERNMENT, BUT A DECISION MADE

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BY ME. IT IS MY DECISION.

I HAD A SPEECH PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF ABORTION, BUT I THINK ALL OF THE GREAT WOMEN WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME DID A GREAT JOB IN DOING THAT. I AM GOING TO RESPOND TO EVERYBODY HERE WHO IS OPPOSING THIS RESOLUTION WHICH MOST DO NOT HAVE UTERUSES AND CANNOT BE PREGNANT ANYMORE.

IT IS IMPORTANT YOU SUPPORT WOMEN WHO CAN GET PREGNANT.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS COUNTY WHO ARE MARGINALIZED AND ALREADY ARE IN LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY NEED YOUR SUPPORT. YOU OWE IT TO THEM AND NOT THE 63 MILLION PEOPLE WHO THEY ARE NOT HERE.

WE ARE HERE. IT IS YOUR JOB TO PROTECT US AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO CHOOSE. THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS SPEAKER 29, AUSTIN BRIAR, SPEAKING VIRTUALLY ON 306.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS AUSTIN AND I AM A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER AND A MOTHER OF THREE CHILDREN.

I SUPPORT A CHILD BEARING PERSON'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR BODY. THERE IS A SUPREME COURT RULING REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF TIME A PERSON HAS TO MAKE THE DECISION OF A -- OF AN ABORTION. THEY ALREADY FACE A CRISIS.

IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING, NOW IS THE TIME.

IT WILL RESULT IN SEX EDUCATION AND FAMILY PLANNING AND ACCESS SAFE ABORTIONS. ABORTION IS HEALTHCARE AND ABORTION SAVES LIVES. ABORTION IS NOT MURDER.

CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THE RIGHTS OF CHILD-BEARING PEOPLE IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 30, SARA HACK SPEAKING VIRTUALLY ON ITEMS 306 AND 307. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

HELLO, MY NAME IS SARA HACK. I AM A CURRENT MEMBER AND IN FULL SUPPORT OF PROPOSAL 306, 307 AND 311 BECAUSE NO GOVERNMENT HAS THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT I SHOULD DO WITH MY OWN BODY. ABORTION RIGHTS ARE PART OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. IT AFFECTS VARIOUS MINORITY GROUPS [INAUDIBLE]. THE SUPREME COURT CONTINUES TO FAIL US AND HAS ONCE AGAIN FAILED US YET AGAIN.

AS THE COMMISSIONERS' COURT YOU HAVE A PROMISE TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF ALL PEOPLE IN HARRIS COUNTY WHO CAN MITIGATE THE EFFECT OF THE ABORTION BAN BY PROVIDING AFFORDABLE CONTRACEPTIVES AND FAMILY PLANNING SERVICES AND ABORTION WHERE LEGALLY POSSIBLE. IF YOU DON'T, YOU ARE FURTHER DISEMPOWERING THE POPULATION AND --

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM, YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> AND BE PREPARED TO TAKE RE-- >> THANK YOU, MA'AM, YOUR TIME

IS UP. >> THANK YOU.

NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 33, TRAVIS SMITH SPAEBGING VIRTUALLY ON 306 AND 307. HAVE YOU ONE MINUTE.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> HELLO.

I AM CALLING ON THIS COURT TO RESIST THE EFFORTS OF TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL TO ENFORCE THE 1920S ERA LAW THAT BANS ABORTIONS AND TO WORK TO KEEP ABORTIONS SAFE AND LEGAL UP UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE THE SO-CALLED TRIGGER LAW TAKES EFFECT. EVERY DAY, EVERY HOUR THAT ABORTIONS REMAIN LEGAL IN TEXAS IS A CHANCE FOR MORE PEOPLE TO GET THE CARE THEY NEED. I ALSO CALL UPON YOU TO WORK CLOSELY WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES TO PUT PRESSURE ON PRESIDENT BIDEN'S EMERGENCY -- AND PROTECT PATIENTS.

PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS THE POWER TO DO SO IMMEDIATELY.

ALL THAT IS REQUIRED IS THE POLITICAL WILL.

IF YOU DO NOT USE YOUR POWER AND YOUR POSITION ON THIS COURT TO PROTECT ABORTION PROVIDERS AND PATIENTS, WE WILL NOT RE-ELECT YOU. 60% OF AMERICANS [INAUDIBLE] ROE VS. WADE. 67% AGREE WITH SBA.

I CAN'T IMAGINE YOU WILL WIN ANY ELECTIONS LOSING 65% OF THE VOTE. DO WHAT IS MORAL -- MORALLY

RIGHT. >> THANK YOU, SIR, YOUR TIME IS

UP. >> NEXTS ISPEAKER NUMBER, 2 JACOB CLEMETAGE SPEAKING ON06 3, 307 ANDND 3 A 246.

HAVE YOU TWOUT MINES, JACOB. >> HI.

IJA AM COBNT CLEMEAGE. I WANT TO SAYDI I AM SABLED BECAUSE A WOMAN T TRIEDO ABORT MY LIFE82 IN 19.

AS YOUBA CAN PROBLY TELL, AGAINST PROP 306 AND 307 AND

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311. A LOOKT THE HISTORYON OF ABORTI.

WHAT WAS STARTED BY WHITE MENW N NEYORK WHOON WANTED TO CTROLPU THE POLATION.LE [INAUDIB].

MARGARET HAD ARE LETTER FERENCING THIS FROMAN PROCTER D GAMBLE. SHE SAYSOR WE DON'T WANT WD TOUT GET OUT, B WE WANT TOH DISTINGUISTHE NEGRO POPULATION.A ADRIAN GARCIDID A SMART THING.

HE WANTS JULY TO BE RECOGNIZED AS HONORING [INAUDIBLE] AND ADRIAN GARCIA, THAT'S A SMART D THING THAT YOUID.

AND FORLE YOU, COMMISSIONER CAG, HAVING THE REQUEST [INAUDIBLE] THAT IS SMART ALSO. MY BOSS AT MINUTE MAID PARK IS CINDY MUNEZ AND SHE IS A SMART WOMAN.

AND THEN ANOTHER WOMAN THAT IS REAL SMART IS CHRISTINA AND SHE IS MY BOSS AT NRG PARK. ANYWAY, I AM AN EMPLOYEE OF HARRIS COUNTY AND I AM ALSO WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. I THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GARCIA , FOR HONORING THE PEOPLE AT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. AND I WANT TO HONOR YOU, COMMISSIONER CAGLE FOR HAVING THE CHICK-FIL-A.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 16, ALYSSA MARTINEZ TPO*R 30 -- FOR 307 AND 295. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> HI, MY NAME IS MELISSA MARTINEZ AT U OF H AND A CONSTITUENT OF [INAUDIBLE].

WE NEED TO CONDEMN THE SUPREME COURT DECISION TOA OVERTURN ROE VS. WADE. IT IS MORAL AND CULTURAL ISSUE [INAUDIBLE] THAT CAUSES HARM AND DEADLY DANGER, BUT SUICIDE, MURDER AND PERSONAL VIOLENCE. UH -- ABORTION SAVES LIVES.

FOR ALL HARRIS COUNTY RESIDENTS I ASK THE COURT TO BE IN SOLIDARITY TO BLACK AND BROWN, LOW-INCOME WOMEN AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO PLAN THEIR OWN FUTURE. I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION OF 311, 306 AND 307 [INAUDIBLE] AND BEING CRIMINALIZED TOWARD ABORTION SEEKERS AND PROVIDERS AND FUNDERS AND OPPOSE 295 IN LIGHT OF THE GENERAL -- JAIL OVERCROWDING CRISIS. AND THIS IS IN LIGHT OF --

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> THOSE ARE ALL OF THE SPEAKERS FOR THESE ITEMS.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: IF I MIGHT, THIS IS RODNEY.

AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ADOPTION.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: I MOVE -- I SECOND --

>> RODNEY ELLIS: 306, 307 AND 311, I BELIEVE, JUDGE.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: I HAVE A BRIEF COMMENT BEFORE WE VOTE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: YES, COMMISSIONER CAGLE, GO AHEAD.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: I HAVE THREE WORDS THAT COME TO MIND TODAY ON THIS ISSUE. ONE IS LOVE AND ONE IS LIFE AND THE THIRD IS LANE. WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE BE -- WE NEED TO REMEMBER TO LOVE ALL PARTIES IN THE PROCESS OF THE MOTHER AND THE UNBORN CHILD.

TWO, LIFE. IF WHAT WAS INSIDE A UTERUS WAS JUST PROPERTY, -RG THEN I THINK WE -- THEN I THINK WE WOULD ALL BE IN AGREEMENT. I THINK WHERE THE ISSUE IS WHAT IS INSIDE THE UTERUS IS NOT JUST PROPERTY, BUT A LIFE.

IF IT IS A LIFE, THEN THAT INNOCENT LIFE DESERVES PROTECTION. AND THEREFORE, I THINK THAT LEADS US TO OUR THIRD POINT, OR MY THIRD POINT WHICH IS LANE.

WE ARE COUNTING COMMISSIONERS' COURT AS OUR JOB TO FIX THE POTHOLES AND IT IS OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BATHROOMS IN OUR PARKS ARE CLEAN. IT IS OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE PUBLIC SAFETY. WE SHOULD NOT BE GETTING OUT OF OUR LANE AND TELLING THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT WHAT TO BE DOING. LOVE, LIFE, LANE.

I WILL BE VOTING NO ON ALL THREE RESOLUTIONS.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: JUDGE? >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER CAGLE? THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CAGLE.

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>> ADRIAN GARCIA: JUDGE? >> LINA HIDALGO: WHAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER ELLIS AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: JUDGE, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> LINA HIDALGO: I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU. I TOO WANT TO SHARE A FEW WORDS.

FIRST, REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIDE OF THE AISLE YOU ARE ON ON THIS ISSUE, THANK YOU FOR COMING BY AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR WORDS. I DIDN'T HEAR ANYONE, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, REFER TO WHAT MUST BE A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT DECISION AS UNLOADING PROPERTY. IT IS TRUE.

THIS IS ABOUT LIFE. I HAVE OFTEN SAID IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE FOR LIFE, BE FOR LIFE FROM WOMB TO TOMB.

SUPPORT EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION SUPPORT ACCESS TO QUALITY HEALTHCARE. SUPPORT A BABY ALL THE WAY THROUGH ITS RESPECTIVE -- ITS PERSPECTIVE YEARS.

I CAN'T HELP BUT TO MENTION WHEN THE UVALDE MASSACRE HAPPENED WE WERE MAKING A RESOLUTION, A BENIGN RES -- RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT GUN SAFETY. AND I PAUSE -- I RECALL THAT WE VOTED AND IT WAS A 3-2 VOTE AND MY TWO COLLEAGUES, COMMISSIONER CAGLE AND COMMISSIONER RAMSEY VOTED AGAINST IT, AND THEN I BROUGHT IT BACK UP AFTER WE WERE HEARING THE DETAILS OF THE 21 LIVES THAT WERE LOST THAT DAY. IT WAS BY A WEAPON OF WAR.

DAVE, I RESPECT YOU IMMENSELY, BUT WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO RAISE THE ISSUE OF GUN SAFETY WE COULD HAVE USED THE VOICE OF FAITH LEADERS TO HELP GUIDE THIS NATION.

I IMMENSELY RESPECT SENATOR CORNISH FOR WHAT HE DID.

BUT I CANNOT HELP THE -- TO SEE THE HIPOCRACY THAT WOMEN CONSULTING WITH A SCIENTIST, A MEDICAL DOCTOR, MAY ULTIMATELY MAKE A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT DECISION AND WE ARE UP IN ARMS ABOUT IT. YET, AN 18-YEAR-OLD CAN GO AND BUY AN AR-15 AND GO MASSACRE YOUNG BABIES.

AND YET WE CAN'T TAKE A POSITION ON IT.

I CANNOT HELP BUT TO SEE THE HYPOCRISY.

IF YOU'RE FOR LIFE, BE FOR LIFE FROM WOMB TO TOMB.

AND ALL THAT KILLS. AN 18-YEAR-OLD WITH AN AR-15 IS NOT A DOCTOR. IT IS NOT A SCIENTIST.

HE IS NOT CONSULTING WITH THOSE BABIES ON WHETHER TO TAKE THEIR LIFE. HE DIDN'T CONSULT WITH THEIR PARENTS. SO, DAVE, HELP US WITH FAITH, HELP US WITH PRAYER SO THAT WE CAN FIND A PRACTICAL WAY TO SUPPORT LIFE ALL THE WAY AROUND. THANK YOU, JUDGE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU. I ENDORSE EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

COMMISSIONER ELLIS MADE THE MOTION.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA HAS MADE THE SECOND.

WE ARE VOTING ON THE THREE ITEMS COMMISSIONER ELLIS MENTIONED.

ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.

>> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED?

>> NO. >> LINA HIDALGO: I AM IN FAVOR.

I AM VERY PROUD TO SUPPORT THESE THREE ITEMS AND TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS AS THE ONLY WOMAN IN THE HARRIS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' COURT RIGHT NOW AND WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN FOR

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FUTURE RIGHTS THAT MIGHT BE CURTAILED, I AM VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND THE SAFETY OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN. I FEEL AN OBLIGATION TO GIVE A VOICE TO THE MILLIONS OF WOMEN I REPRESENT.

I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES FOR SUPPORTING THIS ITEM WHICH I BELIEVE SHOULD IS -- I BELIEVE SHOWS A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN

THE COUNTY SUPPORT. >> R. JACK CAGLE: JUDGE, SINCE WE ARE MAKING AFTER SPEECHES CAN I MAKE A 30-SECOND COMMENT?

>> LINA HIDALGO: OF COURSE. >> R. JACK CAGLE: YOU CLAIMED YOU ARE THE ONLY WOMAN REPRESENTING VOICES, AND I WOULD URGE THAT MY MOTHER WHO IS 84 WHEN SHE WAS HAVING OPEN HEART SURGERY WANTED TO MAKE SURE I VOTED AGAINST THE FIRST VERSION OF THIS. MY WIFE, YOU DO NOT REPRESENT HER IN THIS AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER WOMEN IN MY STAFF AND THAT ARE IN HERE THAT ARE WAIVING THEIR HANDS THAT YOU DO NOT REPRESENT THEIR VOICES EITHER.

THIS IS A CONTENTIOUS MATTER. WE ARE DIVIDED ON IT.

BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY THAT YOU ARE THE ONLY WOMAN

THAT HAS AN OPINION. >> LINA HIDALGO: UNLESS YOU IDENTIFY AS A WOMAN, COMMISSIONER, I AM THE ONLY WOMAN ON COMMISSIONERS' COURT. I BELIEVE MY OTHER COLLEAGUES WOULD IDENTIFY AS MEN. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, GENTLEMEN. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF WOMEN IN HARRIS COUNTY AND I HAPPEN TO BE THE ONLY ONE -- IN FACT, I AM THE FIRST WOMAN TO HAVE BEEN ELECTED COUNTY JUDGE.

I -- BELIEVE THAT? IT WAS NOT UNTIL 2018 AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE TAKING US BACK TO. OF COURSE THERE WILL BE SOME WOMEN THAT DISAGREE WITH ME, JUST LIKE THERE IS A MINORITY OF PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN AND CONTINUE TO

PANDER TO THAT. >> R. JACK CAGLE: [INAUDIBLE] 2016 AT THE DEMOCRATIC ELECTION WHEN THEY SAY THAT ELECTION WAS

STOLEN? >> LINA HIDALGO: I AM AFRAID ARE YOU SO OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY, IT IS UNFORTUNATE TO SEE. THERE ARE VERY SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL ABOUT AN INSURRECTION THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE PEOPLE PANDERED TOO THE EX-- PANDERED TO THE EXTREME OF ONE PARTY.

THERE CAN BE MANY ISSUES, BUT BANDING TOGETHER IS EXTREME.

THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS AND PEOPLE AGREE AND DISAGREE, BUT WE ARE GOING FAR, FAR TOO THE EXTREMES BECAUSE TOO MANY ARE PUTTING PANDERING AND A DESIRE TO WIN ABOVE WHAT IS RIGHT FOR POLICY. OUR COLLEAGUES HERE REFUSED TO RERT -- TO CERTIFY THE ELECTION IN 2021.

I WAS JUST WATCHING THE NEWS IN NEW MEXICO AND ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WERE REFUSING TO CERTIFY THE ELECTION RESULTS.

COMMISSIONER RAMSEY DID THAT LAST YEAR.

THAT'S THE KIND OF PANDERING THAT HAPPENS AT THIS TABLE.

YOU CAN PANDER TO AN EXTREME MINORITY, BUT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE SOME ACCESS TO ABORTION, COMMISSIONER. YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR MY SCRATCHY VOICE TODAY, AND THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS WE HAVE AN ELECTIONS COMMISSION MEETING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE YESTERDAY. TWO MEMBERS ARE OUT OF TOWN -- ONE MEMBER IS OUT OF TOWN AND ONE MEMBER IS REMOTE AND FOR IMPORTANT REASONS WHY THEY CAN'T ATTEND THE MEETING IN PERSON, AND OF COURSE WITH COVID, I COULDN'T ATTEND THE MEETING IN PERSON SO WE COULDN'T MAKE A QUORUM.

WHAT WAS THE RESULT OF THAT IS THAT WE COULDN'T NAME A NEW ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR YESTERDAY.

WE RESCHEDULED THE MEETING FOR FRIDAY AND THE ONLY WAY IN WHICH WE CAN HAVE A QUORUM, THESE MEMBERS WILL STILL HAVE TO BE REMOTE IS IF I CAN BE THERE IN PERSON.

THE ONLY WAY I AM GOING TO BE THERE IN PERSON IS IF I FEEL BETTER BY FRIDAY. WHAT I'M ASKING YOU GUYS TO DO, I'M HOPING TO RECOVER BY THEN, IS THAT WE GO OVER THE DISCUSSION ITEMS THAT WE IDENTIFY IN THE ITEMS AND WHERE THE VOTE WILL NOT BE UNANIMOUS AND THEN WE CAN TAKE THE SPEAKERS FOR THOSE ITEMS. AFTER WE VOTE ON THOSE ITEMS I WILL JUST LISTEN. I WILL LISTEN TO THE COURT AND I WON'T TALK AND HAND THE REINS TO COMMISSIONER CAGLE TO PRESIDE OVER THE COURT. SO IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU GUYS IF WE JUST GO OVER THE DISCUSSION ITEMS AND THEN --

>> RODNEY ELLIS: THAT WORKS FOR ME, JUDGE.

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>> ADRIAN GARCIA: YEAH. >> TOM RAMSEY: JUDGE, MAY I RESPOND? SINCE YOU BROUGHT MY NAME UP, YOU SEEM TO BE CONFUSED ON WHY I DID NOT CONFIRM THE ELECTION.

I DIDN'T CONFIRM THE ELECTION BECAUSE OF WHO WAS RUNNING THE ELECTION. THE ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR LONGORIA WAS THE REASON I DIDN'T CONFIRM SOMETHING I HAD NO CONFIDENCE IN IN TERMS OF HER ABILITY TO CONDUCT AN ELECTION.

THAT'S WHY I DID THAT. IT WAS NOT ANY CONSPIRACY THEORIES YOU MAY OPERATE UNDER. AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT HISTORY. ONE WOULD SAY IT WAS THE RADICAL PURSUIT OF ABORTION ON DEMAND UP TO 9 MONTHS THAT LEAD US TO THIS POSITION. SO WE CAN ALL BE VERY CLEAR ON WHY WE ENDED UP WHERE WE ENDED UP.

THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. YES, COMMISSIONER, GO AHEAD.

>> JUDGE, JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, JUST FOR JAMES' PURPOSES, ITEMS 306, 307 AND 311 PASSED 3-2? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ON THE RECORD.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME AFTER COMMENTS ABOUT IT.

CORRECT? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: CORRECT.

>> OKAY. >> THAT'S ALL, JUDGE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANKOU Y. I AM NOT GETTING VERY GOODOU SND FROM THE ROOM. I'M SORRY.

IOU CLDN'T HEAR COMMISSIONER GARCIA EARLIERND A I DIDN'T REALIZE THATAS W YOU,AY J. [INAUDIBLE] THESE ARE THE --TH ESE ARE THE ITEMSD LISTEFOR DISCUSSION.I WILL GO OVER THEM AND THEN GO BACK OVER W IT SOEDE CAN INTIFY THOSE THATOT MAY N BE UNANIMOUS. DISCUSSION ITEMSDO 286 --

NEED TO DISCUSS 286? N >>OPE.

>> YES. >> 287, BONNIE KELLUMS?

>> NOPE.IN >> LA HIDALGO: WE WILL NOT DISCUSS THAT28 ONE. 8, THEEN ANNUAL COMPSATION OF

THEER COURT MANAG? >> NOPE.A

>> LINHIDALGO: 289RI, THE VAOUS NOMINEES FOR THE SAFE

SCHOOL COMMISSION. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: NO DISCUSSION.

I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON MY NOMINEE.

>> LINA HIDALGO:'LL KEEP IT FOR DISCUSSION.

295ON, AN EXECUTIVE SESSI FOR MANAGEMENT TRAINING>> CORPORATI?

YES. >> YES.O:

>> LINA HIDALG 296 AND THAT IS AGREEMENTS -- A REQUEST BYR COUNTY ATTORNEY FOEXECUTIVETY SESSION.

COUN ATTORNEY, DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT?IT

>> HI, JUDGE. EE IS JOHN.

WE DON'T ND T TO UNLESS ANYONE ONHE COURT HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. IT ISOU JUST AN APPROVAL OF TSIDE COUNSEL ON EXISTING L LITIGATION.

>>INA HIDALGO: ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE, COLLEAGUES?IT OKAY. I WILL TAKE OFF THE DISCUSSION LIST. 308, THAT ITEM REQUIRES NO ACTION. THATTH WAS GOING TO BE IF WE HAD E ELECTION COMMISSION MEETING YESTERDAY, AND IT ENDED UP NEEDING A DIFFERENT SAL RAE RANGE.

NO -- SALARY RANGE. NO ACTION ON THAT ONE, JAMES.

309, DO FOLKS NEED TO DISCUSS ASHLEY GILBERT HARRIS COUNTYE.

HOUSING AUTHORITY? >> NOP

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>> LINA HIDALGO: REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS. ITEM 6, ERA AGREEMENT WITH BAKER RIP -- RIPLEY?

>> TOM RAMSEY: YES. >> LINA HIDALGO: ITEM 9, DEEO,

$2 MILLION. >> R. JACK CAGLE: JUDGE, ON 6 DO WE JUST NEED TO VOTE OR DO WE NEED A DISCUSSION?

I JUST NEED TO VOTE. >> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY.

LET ME GO BACK DOWN AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE ON THE ONES WE NEED TO VOTE ON, COMMISSIONER CAGLE.

I WILL MARK IT RIGHT NOW FOR DISCUSSION, BUT WE'LL COME BACK AROUND REAL QUICK BEFORE I HAND OVER THE REINS TO YOU.

SO I WILL LEAVE SIX ON THERE JUST BECAUSE WE NEED TO VOTE.

ITEM 9, DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS OR VOTE?

>> TOM RAMSEY: WE NEED TO DISCUSS.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. ITEM 13, A GRANT FROM THE TEXAS

DEFENSE COMMISSION. >> TOM RAMSEY: NEED TO DISCUSS.

>> LINA HIDALGO: 16, AN UPDATE ON THE PANDEMIC.

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>> ADRIAN GARCIA: NOPE. >> LINA HIDALGO: I DON'T HAVE ANY ACTION THERE. I DID DISCUSS WITH BARBIE AN UPDATE ON MONKEYPOX THAT SHE CAN GIVE IF NEED BE, AND OTHER THAN THAT, THE -- WE ARE SEEING A SLIGHT INCREASE IN HOSPITALIZATIONS, BUT THE CASES ARE COMING DOWN SLIGHTLY, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE EXTREMELY HIGH AS EVIDENCED BY BY ME.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: AND JUDGE, THIS IS COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP MONKEYPOX, I WOULD ASK TO LEND YOUR MICROPHONE, IF YOU WILL, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH THE PUBLIC THE DETAILS OF MONKEYPOX.

COVID-19, FOR EXAMPLE, WE KWAN SEE YOU -- WE CAN SEE ON YOU THE SCREEN THAT YOU LOOK WELL AND YOU LOOK STRONG, BUT WE CAN TELL BY YOUR VOICE THAT YOU ARE NOT 100%.

HOWEVER, MONKEYPOX, THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF IT TEND TO BE A LITTLE ALARMING. ALTHOUGH, THE VIRUS ITSELF, AS I HAVE BEEN HEARING AND TOLD, IS NOT NEAR THE POTENTIAL OF COVID-19. I THINK JUST BECAUSE OF THE VISUALS THAT WE DO A GOOD JOB TO SPEAK IN ADVANCE.

WE HAD ONE CASE IN HARRIS COUNTY I DON'T WANT UNNECESSARY ALARMS. SO IF WE CAN ASK YOU TO PROVIDE AS MUCH OF AN EDUCATION LEVERAGING DIRECTOR ROBINSON AND DR. PORSA TO HELP PROVIDE A GOOD DISCUSSION ON WHAT IS MONKEYPOX AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OF COURSE, COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

WE HAD TWO CASES, BOTH IN TRANSIT.

ONE WAS IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON AND IDENTIFIED BY HARRIS COUNTY.

THANKFULLY, IT IS LESS TRANS MISSABLE AND YOU HAVE TO COME IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH SOMETHING THAT HAS TOUCHED THE PERSON OR WAS IN CONTACT WITH A PERSON WITH THOSE PARTICULAR SORES.

THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE COMMUNITY IS IF YOU HAVE ANY TYPE OF SORE OR BLISTER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR AND JUST GET WITH YOUR PRIMARY CARE PROVIDER.

THAT'S HOW THESE FOLKS IDENTIFIED THAT THEY HAD MONKEYPOX. WE ARE ABSOLUTELY MONITORING AND WE WILL BE PROACTIVE, COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

AND OF COURSE THERE IS A BALANCE, RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT TO UNNECESSARILY ALARM PEOPLE, BUT WE DO NEED TO TELL PEOPLE TO YOUR POINT WHAT THEY NEED TO BE LOOKING OUT FOR AND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. THAT'S A VERY CLEAR RECOMMENDATION. LET'S KEEP GOING DOWN THE AGENDA. NO DISCUSSION -- WELL, -- NO DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE. BALLOT INITIATIVES, THAT'S FOR

DISCUSSION. >> WAS THAT FOR ITEM 17, JUDGE?

>> LINA HIDALGO: CORRECT. ITEM 26 IS A PAYROLL DEDUCTION

AGREEMENT. >> R. JACK CAGLE: JUST NEED TO

VOTE. >> LINA HIDALGO: ITEM 123, AN UPDATE ON METHODOLOGY FOR THE FLOOD RESILIENCE TRUST

ELIGIBILITY? >> TOM RAMSEY: YES.

>> LINA HIDALGO: 135 IS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE HARRIS COUNTY

TEAM HEALTH CLINIC. >> NOPE.OH

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY -- >> ADRIAN GARCIA: AND I JUST -- JUDGE, WE NEED TO PULL 130 OUT OF ORDER.

>> LINA HIDALGO: 130 OUT OF ORDER.

GOT IT. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: ACTUALLY, NOT TAKE IT OUT OF ORDER. I WANT TO HOLD 130 AND ITEM 4.

>> LINA HIDALGO: I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER.

YOU WOULD LIKE TO HOLD WHICH ITEM?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: ITEM 4 AND ITEM 130.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. NO ACTION.

AND ITEM 130, GOT IT. THAT'S THE BROADBAND STRATEGIC

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PLAN. >> SO NO ACTION FOR BOTH?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: ITEM 4 WAS MY RESOLUTION.

>> LINA HIDALGO: GOT IT. >> RODNEY ELLIS: COMMISSIONER, THAT IS FOR NO ACTION? WE ARE HOLDING THAT FOR A COUPLE

WEEKS? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: YES.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: THANK YOU. >> TOM RAMSEY: SO LET ME UNDERSTAND. THERE IS ITEM 4, BROADBAND.

THERE IS ITEM 28 RELATED TO THAT, AND THEN 128 AND 130.

WE ARE HOLDING ALL OF THOSE? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I JUST WANT TO

HOLD THE PLAN. >> TOM RAMSEY: FOR -- 4?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: 4 AND 130. >> AND NO ACTION ON THOSE?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: CORRECT. >> LINA HIDALGO: 135 WE SAID WE DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS. 140.

NEIGHBOR TO TPHRAEU -- NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR PROGRAM.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: NOPE. LINING --

>> LINA HIDALGO: 142. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I'M SORRY, JUDGE. I DO WANT TO DISCUSS 140.

>> LINA HIDALGO: WE'LL KEEP 140 FOR DISCUSSION.

142. >> R. JACK CAGLE: 142, I JUST WANTED TO SAY AN ATTABOY AND WHAT A GREAT THING THIS WAS.

SINCE ARE YOU NOT FEELING WELL WE DON'T NEED TO HOLD IT FOR A BIG, LONG SPEECH, BUT THIS IS A GOOD THING.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CAGLE.

GOT IT. 145.

AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT.

DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT ONE? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: YES.

145. AND THEN ALSO, JUDGE, I DO WANT TO -- I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ON 141.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. GOT IT.

NEXT WOULD BE 167. >> TOM RAMSEY: YES.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. 181 IS A TDIC -- TI EXCUSE ME -- TIC, EXCUSE ME, AGREEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC DEFENDER.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: JUST NEED TO VOTE.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MOVED. >> LINA HIDALGO: LET'S COME BACK TO DO THE VOTE IN A MOMENT. 182.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THAT'S WHAT WE WERE WAITING TO HEAR IF PFM HAD ANY CLAIMS ON THIS AGENDA. IF THERE ARE NO CLAIMS, WE DON'T

NEED TO DISCUSS. >> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY.

193. >> TOM RAMSEY: YES.

>> LINA HIDALGO: 212, IT IS PAGE SUTHERLAND.

>> TOM RAMSEY: I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON THE SCOPE HERE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: JUDGE, I HAVE A CORRECTION ON 195 WHEN THAT IS APPROPRIATE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY WE WILL GO OVER CORRECTIONS AS WELL.

LET'S FINISH GOING OVER THE LIST.

212 WE WENT OVER. 238.

INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT REGARDING A GUN BUY BACK EVENT.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: I JUST NEED TO VOTE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: 251, COST DRIVERS OF LABOR AND NON-LABOR RELATED COST AND IT IS A TRANSMITTAL.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: YES. >> LINA HIDALGO: 293, MWBE

UTILIZATION REPORT. >> RODNEY ELLIS: I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE. I KNOW IT IS JUST A TRANSMITTAL.

>> LINA HIDALGO: YES. DATA USE AGREEMENT ADDENDUM, MASTER AGREEMENT BETWEEN HARRIS COUNTY AND PFM.

I SUSPECT WE NEED TO VOTE. 299, TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS FOR

THE AXIS FOR PUBLIC HEALTH. >> R. JACK CAGLE: 298 WE NEED TO

VOTE ON. >> LINA HIDALGO: GOT IT.

HOW ABOUT 299? >> TOM RAMSEY: NO.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. I WILL TAKE THAT OFF THE DISCUSSION LIST AND 314, PROCURE TO PAY IMPROVEMENT INITIATIVE.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: YES. >> LINA HIDALGO: 317, DISCUSSION

ON THE COST OF DELAYING AN NHIP. >> TOM RAMSEY: YES.

>> LINA HIDALGO: 318, UPDATE ON JWEB.

>> TOM RAMSEY: YES. >> LINA HIDALGO: AND 319 TO WORK WITH THE CHILDREN'S ASSESSMENT CENTER FOR PROPOSED PROJECTS ON

ARPA FUNDING. >> TOM RAMSEY: YES.

>> LINA HIDALGO: GOT IT. LET ME RUN THROUGH ANY CORRECTIONS. I HAVE NO ACTION ON ITEM 4.

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COMMISSIONER GARCIA. I HAVE NO ACTION ON 127, THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. NO ACTION ON ITEM 130, PER COMMISSIONER GARCIA. ON ITEM 141, WE NEED TO REPLACE ERIKA OWENS DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND REPLACE.

IT SHOULD READ REQUEST FOR APPROVAL TO UH POINT ZAKITA DOUGLAS AS THE CIVIL RIGHTS OFFICER FOR THE BLOCK GRANT AND DISASTER RECOVERY PROGRAMS. ITEM 195, COMMISSIONER GARCIA, I THINK THIS IS THE ONE YOU MENTIONED.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: CORRECT. >> WE NEED TO REPLACE NORTH WITH

SOUTH. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THAT'S

CORRECT. >> IT SHOULD BE MAINTENANCE AND RELATED ITEMS IN THE SOUTH ZONE OF PRECINCT 2.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: AND JUDGE -- >> LINA HIDALGO: YES.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: ORIGINALLY I MENTIONED THAT I WAS GOOD WITH JUAN -- WITH 135. I HAVE BRIEF COMMENTS ON 135.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. BRIEF COMMENTS ON 135.

GOT IT. >> TOM RAMSEY: JUDGE, I NEED TO ADD 128. WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. LET ME FINISH GOING THROUGH THE CORRECTIONS. I HAVE NOTED THAT ONE AS WELL.

SO 3 WR-R -- 301 NEEDS A CORRECTION TO CHANGE THE FUNDING NOTE FROM 9 MILLION 141, 247 TO 8 MILLION 830, 403.

ADDITIONAL FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF 8 MILLION 830, 403 TO COMPLETE THE NEXT PHASE FOR ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING SERVICES. THOSE ARE ALL OF THE CORRECTIONS. COMMISSIONER RAMSEY SAID HE NEEDS TO DISCUSS 128, COMMISSIONER RAMSEY?

TOM -- >> TOM RAMSEY: YES AND WE NEED TO PULL 151, THAT IS THE BURN BAN DISCUSSION.

>> LINA HIDALGO: 128 AND 151. THAT'S THE BURN BAN.

YES. 128 IS THE NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT WITH CENTER POINT, COMMISSIONER RAMSEY, IS THAT

CORRECT? >> TOM RAMSEY: THAT'S CORRECT.

>> LINA HIDALGO: LET'S SEE WHICH OF THESE ITEMS -- I WILL START GOING DOWN THE LIST AND THEN STOP ME AT THE ITEMS YOU BELIEVE MAY NOT BE UNANIMOUS SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE SPEAKERS FOR THOSE. OR WE CAN JUST LIST THEM OFF FOR LUCINDA SO THEY CAN CALL UP THE SPEAKERS WHILE WE DISCUSS THE BURN BAN. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I WILL GO DOWN THE LIST AND WE WILL FIGURE OUT WHICH SPEAKERS -- EXCUSE ME WHICH ITEMS WILL REQUIRE A VOTE BECAUSE WE DON'T -- RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD BE A UNANIMOUS VOTE, AND THEN WE WILL -- TIFFANY WILL BEGIN TO CALL UP THE SPEAKERS AND WE WILL BRING UP THE BURN BAN AND COME BACK AND VOTE AND THEN I WILL HOP OFF THE SOUND,

OKAY? >> JUDGE, CAN I GO BACK TO ITEM 288? I KNOW Y'ALL PUT IT BACK ON THE CONSENT, BUT IT WAS A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE -- I'M SORRY.

IT WAS A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ITEM.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. ITEM --

>> 288. >> LINA HIDALGO: YES.

THAT IS ACTION AND THATS ITHE COMPENSATION FOR THEOU CRT MANAGERS. SO THEN IT IS- -NT COUYOR ATTNEY DAVE, DOHA WE VE THE MOTION ON THIS? ONE

>> NOAN ONE WTED TO PULL >> LINA HIDALGO: EXCUSE ME?

>> TOM RAMSEY: NO ONED WANTETO PULL THAT ONE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: RIGHT. IUC THINK LINDA ISWH ASKING AT

THE MOTION IS. I >>'M SORRY IT ISA. MARISEL>> LINA HIDALGO: MARISELA ISKI ASNG WHAT THE MOTION IS.OR

JAY DAVE? >> 288.

>> IT IS A DISCUSSIONPO AND SSIBLE ACTION.

>> THIS ISTR THE ADMINISATOR. SALARY WE CAN GETOT THE EXACT MION IF YOU WANT TO HOLD IT AND THENAY THAT W YOU CAN -- WE IT OUT.AD CORRECT. SINCE WE BE STATED CAN'T MOVE AS M ADOPTED -- OROVE AS I WILL O GET THAT SENTVER TO YOU RIGHT NOW.N

>> ADRIAGARCIA: SCWE WILL DIUSS THAT INSE EXECUTIVE

SSION? >> NO.EO UNLESS SOMNE WANTS TO I DISCUSS ITN EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE CAN.

OTHERWISE WE CAN -- I CAN JUST SEND IT OVER.GA

>> ADRIAN RCIA: OKAY. >> LINA HIDALGO: I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT. AND -- BUT JUST SO FOLKS KNOW WHAT THE MOTION IS.

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[INAUDIBLE] JAY -- WE WILL BED N AGREEMENT ANWE CAN VOTE ON IT OR DECIDE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION WHEN WE SEE WHAT THE

MOTION IS. >> JUDGE, CAN YOU SAY THATRE AGAIN? YOU WE CUTTING OUT WHEN YOU

WERE SPEAKING EARLIER O. >> LINA HIDALGO:KAY.

I JUST SAID LET ME KNOW AS SOON AS YOU HAVE THE MOTION SO WE CAN EITHER, YOU KNOW, VOTE ON IT OR GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT I SUSPECT THAT THE MOTION IS SIMPLY THAT THE SPIRIT OF THE ITEM NO ONE HAD AN ISSUE WITH, BUT IT MAKES SENSET FOR ALL OFS

TO SEE WHAWE ARE VOTING ON. >> YES, MA'AM.

WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU RIGHT NOW. >> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. GOT IT.

STOP ME IF Y'ALL BELIEVE ANY OF THESE ITEMS WILL NOT BE UNANIMOUS. THIS DOES PRESIDENT MEAN THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE FLAGGED FOR DISCUSSION.

IT SIMPLY MEANS I WILL BE ON THE MICROPHONE FOR THEM.

286, ROBERT TREVINO? >> TOM RAMSEY: WE NEED TO

DISCUSS. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I MAKE A

MOTION. >> LINA HIDALGO: MARISELA, FOR ANY OF THESE ITEMS, IF YOU CAN JUST BRING UP THE SPEAKERSTH.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: IS THAT ONE AT COMMISSIONER RAMSEY WANTS TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION OR JUST VOTE.

>> TOM RAMSEY: I THINK WE NEED TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON

THAT ONE. >> RODNEY ELLIS: OKAY.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. 289? OKAY. 2 TPHAOEUPBG -- 295? THESE ARE STILL ALL FOR DISCUSSION.

I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF I NEED TO BE ON TO VOTE FOR THEM.

295? 6? 9? DEEO?

AND THE FLEX FUND. >> I'M SORRY, JUDGE.

YOU SAID 295 AND 296 AND NOW YOU ARE ON 299?

>> LINA HIDALGO: NO. I MENTIONED 286.

WE SAID, YES WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT WITH ME.

286. I AM TAKING IT FROM THE TOP AGAIN. 289.

IF IT REMAINS ON THE DISCUSSION AGENDA, BUT I WON'T BE ON THE -- I WILL JUST BE LISTENING. 295, SAME THING.

ITEM 6. >> R. JACK CAGLE: EYE SEPL 6 -- EYE -- ITEM 6 I JUST NEED TO VOTE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: UNFORTUNATELY - - WELL, UNFORTUNATELY FOR EFFICIENCY PURPOSES, BUT WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE TAKEN THE SPEAKERS ON THESE FIRST.

MARISELA, ARE THERE SPEAKERS ON ITEM 6?

>> JUDGE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR ITEM 6.

DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE SPEAKERS FOR 295 OR WAIT FOR THOSE?

>> LINA HIDALGO: WAIT FOR THOSE. >> RODNEY ELLIS: I'M SORRY.

WE ARE ON 296? >> ITEM 6, COMMISSIONER.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: ITEM 6. >> R. JACK CAGLE: SINGLE-DIGIT,

ITEM NUMBER 6. >> LINA HIDALGO: SINGLE-DIGIT ITEM NUMBER 6, MOTIONED BY KPH-GS -- COMMISSIONER CAGLE -- I'M SORRY,. COMMISSIONER CAGLE NEEDS TO

VOTE. >> RODNEY ELLIS: COMMISSIONER GARCIA MADE A MOTION AND I WILL SECOND IT.

>> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER GARCIA MADE A MOTION AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ELLIS. ALL IN FAVOR?

>> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED?

>> NO. >> LINA HIDALGO: I AM IN FAVOR.

ITEM 6 CARRIES. ITEM 9.

DO FOLKS BELIEVE I NEED TO BE PRESENT TO VOTE FOR ITEM 9?

>> TOM RAMSEY: WE NEED TO VOTE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MOVED.

>> LINA HIDALGO: DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON ITEM 9, MARISELA?

>> NO, MA'AM. >> LINA HIDALGO: MOTIONED BY

COMMISSIONER GAR SEE -- >> RODNEY ELLIS: IF I MIGHT, COMMISSIONER CAGLE AND RAMSEY -- JUDGE, THIS IS AN ITEM YOU VOTED FOR TWO WEEKS AGO, BY THE WAY. YOU MIGHT HAVE CHANGED YOUR MIND, BUT YOU VOTED FOR IT TWO WEEKS AGO.

>> TOM RAMSEY: WE VOTED TO PURSUE A GRANT.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: COMMISSIONER GARCIA MADE A MOTION AND I

SECOND IT. >> LINA HIDALGO: MOTIONED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ELLIS ON ITEM 9.

ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.

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>> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED?

>> NO. >> NO.

>> LINA HIDALGO: I'M IN FAVOR. ITEM 9 CARRIES.

ITEM 13. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON ITEM

13? >> NO, MA'AM.

>> LINA HIDALGO: DO I NEED TO VOTE ON THIS ONE?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MOVED. >> RODNEY ELLIS: SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: MOTIONED BY COMMISSIONER GAR -- GARCIA AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ELLIS. ALL IN FAVOR?

>> I. >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED? >> NO.

>> NO. >> LINA HIDALGO: I'M IN FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES 3-2 ON ITEM 13. >> RODNEY ELLIS: THIS IS A GRANT, CORRECT? THAT ONE WAS A GRANT, RIGHT?

>> LINA HIDALGO: THEY, COMMISSIONER.

THIS IS A GRANT FROM THE TEXAS INDIGENT DEFENSE COMMISSION TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. ITEM 17 IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

ITEM 26 IS A PAYROLL DEDUCTION AGREEMENT.

DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ONE WHILE I AM ON THE LINE?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MOVED. >> RODNEY ELLIS: SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER GARCIA MADE THE MOTION AND COMMISSIONER ELLIS HAD THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED? >> NO.

>> NO. >> LINA HIDALGO: I'M IN FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES 3-2 FOR ITEM 26. ITEM 123.

IT'S A RECOMMENDED [INAUDIBLE] >> RODNEY ELLIS: YOU WENT OUT AGAIN, JUDGE. I THINK YOU WENT OUT A LITTLE ON

MY MICROPHONE YOU WENT OUT. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: YES, JUDGE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: I'M SORRY. WE ARE ON 123.

A RECOMMENDED METHOD -- METHODOLOGY FOR TRUST

ELIGIBILITY. >> RODNEY ELLIS: THERE -- ARE

THERE ANY SPEAKERS? >> THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: I MOVE IT. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I HAD A

DISCUSSION ON IT, COMMISSIONER. >> RODNEY ELLIS: ALL RIGHT.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: I DOUBT I SAW DR. PETERSON EARLIER? MY QUESTION ON THIS IS THE METHODOLOGY ON THE PRIORITIZATION METHODOLOGY ON THIS.

DR. PETERSON, CAN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM?

GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: MY QUESTION IS ON THE METHOD -- METHODOLOGY.

IF YOU CAN WALK US THROUGH THE DETAILS OF ITEM 123.

>> SURE. GOOD MORNING.

I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL

DISTRICT. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: IS THE MIC ON?

>> I WILL SPEAK LOUDER. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THERE YOU GO.

>> THE METHODOLOGY WE PUT ON COURT IS A METHODOLOGY TO IDENTIFY HOW WE CAN ACCESS FLOOD RESILIENCE TRUST FUNDS.

AND SO THE BASIC PROCESS IS TO FIRST SCORE THE PROJECTS USING THE PRIORITIZATION FRAMEWORK. AND THEN WE ORDER THEM FROM THE HIGHEST TO THE LOWEST AND DETERMINE HOW MUCH FLOOD RESILIENCE TRUST IS AVAILABLE. WE HAVE $834 MILLION IN TRUST FUNDS. AFTER THAT WE DETERMINE THAT THERE IS ABOUT 12 PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT EL SKWREUBLG -- ELIGIBLE

FOR FUNDING. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THE METHODOLOGY, HOW DID YOU GET TO THIS?

>> THE METHODOLOGY WAS APPROVED AT COURT ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THE END OF JUNE. IT CAME FROM THREE POTS OF MONEY, COMMISSIONER. THERE WAS FUNDING FOR MOBILITY FUNDS, FUNDING FROM REIMBURSMENTS FROM THE COURT OF ENGINEER -- CORE OF ENGINEERS AND FUNDING FOR OTHER SOURCES.

>> AND THE 12 DID NOT GET FUNDED.

HAVE YOU REVIEWED THOSE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE DESERVE

ANOTHER REVIEW? >> RIGHT.

LET ME WALK YOU THROUGH A LITTLE ABOUT HOW THE SPECIFIC FUNDING REQUEST WAS PUT TOGETHER. OPLT THE PROJECT THAT'S REQUIRE FUNDING FOR THE NEXT FIVE MONTHS REQUIRE -- JUST BECAUSE IT IS ELIGIBLE, DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE SUBMITTING THE PROJECTS FOR FUNDING. WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR FUNDING TO KEEP THE PROJECTS MOVING THAT NEED TO BE STAYING ON SCHEDULE.

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THAT'S WHAT THE FLOOD RESILIENCY TEST IS FOR.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED PROJECT THAT'S ARE AT THE POINT IN THE PROJECT LIFE CYCLE THAT COULD BE DELAYED.

AND WE SAY THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IS NEEDED TO KEEP THEM MOVING FORWARD FOR THE NEXT 12 MONTHS AND ONLY THOSE PROJECTS ARE

BEING REQUESTED. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: YOU TOLD MY STAFF THAT PARTNERSHIP FUNDING WAS NO LONGER AVAILABLE AND YOU SAY IT IS STILL AVAILABLE. WHICH ONE IS IT?

>> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS. THERE IS THE FLOOD RESILIENCE TRUST AND THAT IS A SPECIFIC TRUST THAT WAS SET ASIDE TO FILL THE PARTNERSHIP GAP WHEN IT IS NEEDED TO MOVE THEM ON SCHEDULE.

THERE ARE ALSO TWO OTHER FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES.

THERE IS A ZO4 AND A ZO2. THOSE POTS OF MONEY ARE FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF PARTNERSHIP FUNDS.

THE ZO TWORBGS -- THE ZO2 FUNDING THEY ARE FINDING OUT IF THERE IS ANY AVAILABILITY OR GOING THROUGH IT WITH A FEIGN TOOTH COMB. FINE TOOTH COMB.

$20 MILLION WAS SET ASIDE, AND I BELIEVE THERE IS STILL FUNDING LEFT IN A COUPLE OF PRECINCTS. I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AT THE TIP OF MY FINGERS, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONFIRM THAT.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PARTNERSHIP FUNDING IS PRIORITIZED BY VIRTUE AND THOSE THAT ARE SHOVEL READY AND THAT'S HOW WE HISTORICALLY HAVE DONE THAT.

>> I WOULD SAY, COMMISSIONER, THAT THERE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS THERE. ONE IS A PRIORITIZATION FRAMEWORK. THERE IS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TECHNICAL ELEMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN ADDITION TO SOME OTHER TYPES OF SOCIAL VULNERABILITY AND MULTI-USE PROJECTS. THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN THE

PRIORITIZATION FRAMEWORK. >> AND SO ON THE PRIORITIZATION OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE SHOVEL READY, DOES IT MEET ALL OF THE EL -- ALL OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE PRIORITIZATION AND WHERE THE CITIES ARE READY TO COME IN AND BE A PARTNER WITH IT, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU TOLD MY STAFF THAT THE PARTNERSHIP FUNDING HAD ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED, BUT WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON THOSE PROJECTS AND SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE NOT SHOVEL READY. AND SO HOW DID WE KAOPL TO --

COME TO THOSE CONCLUSIONS? >> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT THAT WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER AND WALK YOU THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THOSE PROJECTS.

TP-SZ -- IT IS NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS ITEM, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTION POINT WHICH IS HAVING A PARTNERSHIP

GAP. >> TO ME PARTNERSHIP FUNDING IS PARTNERSHIP FUNDING. I AM JUST TRYING TO GET CLEAR IF WHETHER SOMETHING THAT I HAVEN'T VOTED ON IS ALLOCATED AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENS.

>> CERTAINLY. SPECIAL -- CERTAINLY.

>> THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER GARCIA, FOR NOW CAN WE TAKE A VOTE ON THIS ITEM?

COMMISSIONER RAMSEY? >> TOM RAMSEY: LET ME ASK A

COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. >> LINA HIDALGO: SURE.

>> TOM RAMSEY: ARE WE APPROVING A METHODOLOGY, OR ARE WE APPROVING A PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED AND PRIORITIZED?

>> WE ARE APPROVING A METHODOLOGY AS WELL AS REQUEST

FOR FUNDING. >> IS THIS PREPARED BY THE FLOOD

RESILIENCY TASK FORCE? >> THE METHODOLOGY THAT IS IN THE DOCUMENT SUBMITTED BY COURT WAS PRESENTED BY THE HARRIS

COUNTY FLOOD DISTRICT. >> TOM RAMSEY: DOES THE METHODOLOGY THAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO IN THIS ITEM, DOES IT INCLUDE A FLOOD BENEFIT INDEX WHICH IS A TERM THAT INCLUDES TOTAL COST TO DATE AND CERTAIN GEOGRAPHIC AREA DIVIDED BY POPULATION DENSITY AND THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA TIMES THE FLOOD RISK IN THAT GEOGRAPHIC AREA, DOES IT INCLUDE -- DOES THE

METHODOLOGY INCLUDE THAT? >> NO, SIR, IT DOES NOT.

>> SO THIS IS JUST IDEAS WITHIN THE FLOOD RESILIENCY TASK FORCE THAT IS BEING KICKED AROUND? IT HAS NOT BEEN ADOPTED?

>> THE ITEM WE ARE TALKING ABOUE FLOOD BENEFITS.

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>> TOM RAMSEY: THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THERE.

AS WE PROBED ON ISSUES RELATED TO HOW MUCH FUNDING WOULD IT TAKE OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS TO PREPARE A 2050 RESILIENCY PLAN, THERE WAS NO DETAIL PROVIDED. WHEN THERE WAS QUESTIONS ASKED AS TO HOW MUCH IT WOULD TAKE TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC, I AM A BIG ADVOCATE OF BIG STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.

THERE WAS NO NUMBER GIVEN. THESE ARE JUST GENERIC IDEAS BEING KICKED AROUND BY THE TASK FORCE WITH NO REAL NUMBERS AT

THIS POINT. >> WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS ITEM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS RELATED TO A REQUEST, A METHODOLOGY FORHE T TRUST FUNDING ANDEQ RUEST FORUN FDING.

THERE IS S AEPARATE ITEM LATER IN THEGE ANDA WHERE THE FLOOD RESILIENCEAS TK FORCEAS H SUBMITTEDRE A PSENTATION.

>> THAT'SRA A TNSMITTAL. >>. YES

>> THAT WE DON'TE VOTON. >> THATCO IS RRECT.

>> TOM RAMSEY: IF ATPO THIS INT IF IT'T DOESN INCLUDE A FLOOD

BENEFITS INDEX, IMO MAKE A TION TO APPROVE IT>>.

RODNEY ELLIS: I WILL SECOND IT.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURESO IF MEBODY HAS W HEARTBURNE CAN O VOTEN THIS ITEM THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.IN

>> LA HIDALGO: MOTIONEDMM BY COISSIONER RAMSEY AND SECONDED BYR COMMISSIONEELLIS. ALL IN FAVOR?

>> I I. >>.A

>> LINHIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED? >> REAL QUICK, JUDGE, FOR CLARIFICATIONAN IT IS RAMSEY D ELLIS?

>> CORRECT. >> THIS IS 123.

DO I NEED TOOP BE ON THE MICRHONE FOR THAT ONE?

>> I NEED TO VOTE -- WE MAY NEED TO VOTE, BUT HOW WE VOTETH WILL DEPEND ON EDO DISCUSSION, SO I N'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT, BUT THERE N IS -- E AT LEASTEEDRE TO DISCUSS IT

BEFO WE VOTE ON IT. M >> RODNEY ELLIS: IOVE IT.

IN CASE YOU ARE NOT FEELING WELL, I MOVE IT.HT

>> TOM RAMSEY: I MIG BE ABLE TO BE CONVINCED TO VOTE FOR IT.

IF WE ARE VOTING, NOW WITH NO DISCUSSION I WENT VOTE FOR

IT -- I WON'T VOTE FORID IT. >> LINA HIDALGO: D I HEAR A SECOND? I HEAR A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER

GARCIA. >> R. JACK CAGLE: COURT?IO

>> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSNER CAGLE.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION NOWE. THAT THE MOTION HAS BEEN MAD WE CAN HAVE COMMISSIONER

RAMSEY'S DISCUSSION. >> R. JACK CAGLE: THE QUESTION IS DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THIS LATER OR DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS

THIS NOW? >> RODNEY ELLIS: I THINK HE HAS

A QUICK QUESTION. >> LINA HIDALGO: WHO NEEDS TO

GET ON THE LINE? >> TOM RAMSEY: HERE IS THE SIMPLE QUICK QUESTION. WE ARE APPROVING A NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT WITH CENTER POINT ENERGY FOR OFFICE, BROADBAND -- OFFICE TO BROADBAND TO EXCHANGE CERTAIN PROPRIETARY INFORMATION.

ARE WE HAVING SIMILAR CONVERSATIONS WITH AT&T?

>> WE HAVE SIMILAR CONVERSATIONS WITH AT&T.

CENTER POINT IS THE FIRST TO BE APPROACHED AND THIS EYE -- THIS

ITEM HAS COME TO THE COURT. >> SO WE ARE TALKING TO AT&T AND COMCAST AND TALK TO -- AND THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE COME STPH-G -- COMING.

>> IT IS FOR CENTER POINT, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ITEMS ON THE

AGENDA. >> TOM RAMSEY: MY ONLY THOUGHT WAS THAT SINCE WE DECIDED TO HOLD THE BROADBAND DISCUSSION FOR A FUTURE MEETING I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS ON HOLD FOR A FUTURE MEETING WHILE WE TALK ABOUT THE BROADBAND ISSUES.

THAT SEEMS APPROPRIATE. >> LET ME JUST ASK, DOES IT DISADVANTAGE YOU IN ANYWAY? I THINK THE POINT IS HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T DISADVANTAGE THE COMPETITORS WHICH IS A FAIR POINT. I WANT TO ASK, DOES IT DISADVANTAGE YOU BY US HOLDING IT SO YOU CAN GET ALL OF THEM TO

GET THE PROPRIETARY INFORMATION. >> IT DOES NOT DISADVANTAGE US.

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>> RODNEY ELLIS: I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM HOLDING IT.

>> TOM RAMSEY: THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: WE'LL TAKE NO

ACTION ON ITEM 128. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: AND AS WE ARE TAKING VOTES ON ITEMS, I HAVE SOME STATS HERE ON MY RESOLUTION FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE. IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE THAT ITEM -- I WANT TO GET MY STAFF BACK TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AND GET THIS RESOLUTION OUT OF THE WAY.

>> LINA HIDALGO: YES, COMMISSIONER AND I HAVE TO HOP SOON Y'ALL. I WANT TO GET THESE PASSED.

GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU, JUDGE. IT IS THE VALUE OF GREEN SPACE AND WHAT TAKES PLACE THROUGH A LOT OF OUR PARK FACILITIES AND I JUST WANT TO APPLAUD ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE WORKED HARD AND DILIGENTLY AND I AM IMMENSELY PROUD OF MY STAFF YOU.

OUR PARTS ARE PRISTINE AND WELL KEPT AND WELCOMING.

THE INCLUSIVE PARK UNIQUE TO HARRIS COUNTY IS PHENOMENAL AND CONTINUES TO GET THE ATTENTION OF MANY.

IT IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

IT IS INCLUDING HARRIS COUNTY AND THEY VITALLY -- THEY ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING THE KWAULGT OF -- THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITIEN AND SURING THE HELP OF OUR CITIZENS AND ENSURING THE ECONOMIC AND WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY AND REGION.

AND THE PROGRAM TO BUILD HEALTHY AND ACTIVE COMMUNITIES TO HELP PREVENT CHRONIC DISEASE PROVIDE THERAPEUTIC SERVICES FOR THOSE WHO ARE MENTALLY OR PHYSICALLY DISABLED AND IT APPROVES THE HELP OF ALL CITIZENS. LEISURE AND ENTERTAINMENT AND PROGRAMS HELD IN OUR PARTS INCREASE THE COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH THE INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES AND IT EXPANDS THE LOCAL TAX BASE AND INCREASES TOURISM AND ATTRACTS AND RETAINS BUSINESSES AND WHEREAS COUNTY PROPERTIES WITH PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS ARE FUNDAMENTAL TO THE WELL BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY AS THEY IMPROVE WATER QUALITY AND PROTECT GROUND WATER AND IMPROVE FLOODING AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE AIR WE BREATHE AND PROVIDE BUFFERS TO DEVELOPMENT AND PRODUCE HABITAT FOR WILDLIFE. WHEREAS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS CREATE AND RETAIN ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND ENJOY THE OUTDOORS.

WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DESIGNATED JULY AS PARK AND RECREATION MONTH AND HARRIS COUNTY RECOGNIZES THE PARK AND RESOURCES.

I HAVE DIRECTOR SADLER HERE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND

SHARE A FEW WORDS. >> TOM RAMSEY: LET ME SECOND THAT MOTION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

>> GOOD MORNING. I AM CHRIS A -- ADLER, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND TRAILS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION AND IT SHOWS HOW IMPORTANT THE PARKS

ARE TO HARRIS COUNTY. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN NOTICE WITH YOUR ARRIVAL TO THE PRECINCT. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE WEST SIDE OF HARRIS COUNTY, I WANT THE EASTSIDE OF HARRIS COUNTY PARKS TO RIVAL ANY PARK AND ACTIVITY IN THIS COUNTY.

LISTEN, I HAVE TAKEN MANY EXCEPTIONS WITH YOUR PREDECESSOR, COMMISSIONER RAMSEY.

BUT THE ONE THING I GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR IS THE PARKS AND -- ON THE WEST SIDE ARE GORGEOUS. WITH JAMES DRIVER THAT WAS OUR FLAG IN THE GROUND, AND THIS YOUNG MAN AND HIS TEAM, TIFFANY, THANK YOU FOR MAKING ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES WELCOMING TO ALL AGES AND FOR MAKING IT A WELCOMING PLACE FOR OUR SENIORS AND OUR BABIES. APPRECIATE IT, CHRIS.

>> TOM RAMSEY: THIS IS A RED LETTER DAY AND YOU HAVE BEAT ME

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TO THE PUNCH IN RECOGNIZING C RAY.

PARKS ARE IMPORTANT. COMING OUT OF COVID WE DISCOVERED HOW IMPORTANT OUR PARKS ARE.

JUST BEING A PERSON RESPONSIBLE NOW ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE

EAST SIDE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> TOM RAMSEY: WITH 68 PARKS IN PRECINCT 3, WE LEAD THE WAY.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND WE LOVE TO PARTNER ON PARKS.

DR. PETERSON IS HERE. MILTON IS HERE AND DR. RAMAN.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO IN YOUR JOBS.

WHEN YOU HAVE FLOOD CONTROL PROPERTY AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PRIORITIES, PARKS ARE A PART OF THAT.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO RELATED TO GIVING PRIORITY PARKS

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: AND I QUICKLY WANT TO THANK JOE TURNER.

JOE TURNER WAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

I GOT TO MEET AND WORK WITH JOE WHEN HE WAS AT THE CITY OF HOUSTON AS OUR PARKS DIRECTOR. HE WAS A PREVIOUS HARRIS COUNTY

EMPLOYEE. >> R. JACK CAGLE: PARK DIRECTOR

OF PRECINCT 4. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THAT'S RIGHT.

HE DID A PHENOMENAL JOB WITH OUR PARKS THERE.

I ASKED THEM TO -- HE IS ENJOYING BEING A GRANDMA -- A GRANDPA. I ASKED HIM TO SIGN UM, BUT WE HAVE HAD -- SIGN UP, BUT WE HAD CHALLENGES GETTING WITH HIM.

THANK YOU, JOE, JUST THE SAME. MOVE ON THIS ITEM, JUDGE.

>> TOM RAMSEY: SECOND. >> LINA HIDALGO: MOTIONED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RAMSEY.

THAT WAS ITEM THREE, COMMISSIONER?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: YES. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR?

>> I. >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM 135. DO I NEED TO BE ON THE LINE TO VOTE FOR THAT ONE? THAT IS BAYLOR COLLEGE OF

MEDICINE TEAM IDAHO -- TEAM? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: NO, IT IS JUST A COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE ON 135.

I WANT TO THANK BAYLOR COLLEGE OF MEDICINE FOR ALL OF THEIR WORK IN PARTICULAR WITH THESE PARTNERSHIPS.

THEY ARE MY PARTNER WITH MY ACCESS TO HEALTH SMART PODS IN PRECINCT 2. THE REASON I WANTED TO CALL OUT BAYLOR IS THEY ARE THE ONLY TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER ENTITY WORKING ON THE EASTSIDE OF HARRIS COUNTY IN A VERY UNDER SERVED AREA, VERY HIGH ON THE UNINSURED SIDE, VERY HIGH ON THE INDEX OF DIABETES, ACUTE ASTHMA AND CANCER.

NO EXCEPTION TO THE TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER, BUT IT DOESN'T EXIST FOR A LOT OF MY RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES OR THE TRANSPORTATION TO GET THERE.

BAYLOR HAS BEEN PHENOMENAL FOR BEING CREATIVE AND EXTENDING THEMSELVES. AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY CRITICAL IN THE PARTNERSHIP TO BRING THE ONLY ACCESS TO HEALTH SMART PODS IN AMERICA TO PRECINCT 2. AND THE FACT THAT THE WORK ON ALL THINGS RELATED TO HIV AND AIDS AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY THIS IS IMPORTANT ON A PERSONAL NOTE BECAUSE OF MY OLDER BROTHER, I WANT TO APPLAUD THEM FOR THEIR CONTINUED WORK IN SERVING MANY UNDER SERVED AREAS AND BEING THE LEADING TEXAS MEDICAL CENTER TO EXTEND THEMSELVES. I MOVE ON THIS ITEM, JUDGE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. MOTION ON THIS ITEM.

IS THERE A SECOND? >> TOM RAMSEY: SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: WHO WAS THE SECOND, SORRY?

>> TOM RAMSEY: SECOND, RAMSEY. >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER RAMSEY? ALL IN FAVOR?

>> I. >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THAT WAS 135. LET'S JUST WHILE I AM STILL ON THE PHONE, IF WE CAN JUST VOTE ON ONES WHERE FOLKS DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL BE UNANIMOUS, IT WOULD REALLY -- I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. 140, DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THIS ONE OR CAN IT BE DISCUSSED LATER?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: LATER. >> LINA HIDALGO: 141?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: WE CAN DO THAT LATER.

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>> LINA HIDALGO: 145? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: 145, JUST TO THANK CHANNEL VIEW FOR THEIR INVESTMENT AND THE COLLABORATION IT BRINGS MORE WRAP AROUND SERVICES TO THE CHANNEL VIEW COMMUNITY AND AREA STUDENTS. I AM A BIG PROPONENT OF WRAP AROUND SERVICES AND I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE CHANNEL VIEW ISD FOR THEIR COMMITMENT IN THIS REGARD.

SO MOVED. >> RODNEY ELLIS: WE CAN MOVE ON IT LATER. IT WILL BE UNANIMOUS.

WE CAN VOTE ON IT LATER. >> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY.

WE WILL VOTE ON IT LATER. ITEM 151, COMMISSIONER RAMSEY RATE LEHIGH LIGHTED. -- RAMSEY RIGHTLY HIGHLIGHTED.

IT IS THE BURN BAN. AND LET ME SAY THAT WE ARE SEEING DROUGHT CONDITION STKP-Z -- CONDITIONS AND LACK OF RAIN AND LOWER HUMIDITY WHICH IS A CONCERN BECAUSE IT INCREASES THE RISK OF FIRES. IT IS JUST SO EASY FOR GRASS FIRES TO START WHEN WE SEE THOSE KINDS OF CONDITIONS.

THE AVERAGE DROUGHT INDEX FOR THE COUNTY TODAY IS 681 WHICH IS ON THE HIGH END. IT GOES UP TO 800.

BY COMPARISON LAST YEAR IN THIS TIME DROUGHT INDEX IT WAS BETWEEN 103 TO 300. THAT MEANS IT IS QUITE A LARGE INCREASE. WE HAD SERIOUS FIRE ISSUES IN 2011. WE HAD FIRES THAT WERE 10-ACRE, 20-ACRE FIRES. WHEN THEY GET THAT LARGE THEY CAN BEGIN TO THREATEN HOMES AND THEY CAN BEGIN TO THREATEN STRUCTURES. OBVIOUSLY, WE DON'T WANT TO GET THERE. WE ARE HOPEFUL THERE ARE SOME TROPICAL SYSTEMS NOW AND SOME RAIN IN CENTRAL TEXAS, AND WE ARE HOPEFUL IN -- HOPEFUL SOME OF THAT WILL GET HERE AND ALLEVIATE THIS ISSUE WE HAVE OF THE POTENTIAL FOR FIRES.

BUT OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION RIGHT NOW, THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE ISSUE A BURN BAN FOR UNINCORPORATED HARRIS COUNTY WHICH ARE THE AREAS THAT WE HAVE JURISDICTION OVER. AND WHAT THAT BURN BAN WILL DO IS IT IS GOING TO MEAN NO OUTDOOR BURNING IS ALLOWED.

THAT USUALLY APPLIES TO FOLKS BURNING GARBAGE OR RUB PWEPBLG OUTSIDE -- RUBBAGE OUTSIDE. IT MEANS FOR CERTAIN COMPANIES THAT NEED TO BE MORE CAREFUL IN MAINTAINING THE FIRES.

THERE WILL NOT BE AN AFFECT ON FIRE WORK SALES BECAUSE OF STATE LAW OR OUTDOOR GRILLING, BUT WE NEED PEOPLE TO BE MINDFUL OF A CIGARETTE BUTT OR FARE WORKS, YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL.

WE ARE AT LEVEL THREE IN ORDER TO WATCH THE SITUATION AND THEN DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT WE GETNO EUGH RAIN,ND A WE WILLEE S THEREAN IS YTHING MORE WE CAN DO AND IFNE WE ED TO BE IN FURTHER TOUCH WITH THE STATE OR THE GOVERNOR ABOUT THIS.

LET'S HOPE I -- ITSCE A CONRNIND AN K WE WILLEEPON AN EYE IT.

>> I I ASSUME, DON'TTO WANT YOU OUT.

I ASSUME WEAK NEED TO ME A MOTION SO. I MOVE IT

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: SEPBGD -- SECOND.OD

>> RNEY ELLIS: MOTIONEDMM BY COISSIONER ELLIS AND

BY COMMISSIONER ELLIS.IN >> LA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR.

>> I. >>>> I.

LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED? C RAMSEY.OMMISSIONER

>> TOM RAMSEY: I WAS JUST SAYING I SUPPORT WHAT YOU AREJU SAYING, DGE. I HADER NUMEROUS CONVSATIONS LAST WEEK.RE MARSHAL BETWEEN NOW RAIN AND JULY 4TH. A LOT OF IT.

THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN ON JULY 4THL ARE HIGH POTENTIA FOR PROBLEMS AND I APPRECIATE THE FIRE MARSHAL'S EFFORTS IN O TRYING TO STAYN TOP OF IT. THANK YOU.LG

>> LINA HIDAO: THANK YOU, CHIEF.

WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONE. >> RODNEY ELLIS: SINCE YOU WENT

OUT, I MADE A MOTION.IN >> LINA HIDALGO: [AUDIBLE].YO

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: UR AUDIO IS BAD, JUDGE. S

>> LINA HIDALGO: I'MORRY, FOLKS.

WHO WAS THE SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME?

>> RODNEY ELLIS: YES. YOU SAID ALL IN FAVOR.

>> I. >> I.

>>LL I. >> LINA HIDALGO: A RIGHT.

I'M IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU ALL. ITEMNE 167, IS THAT SOMETHING I ED TO VOTE ON? THAT'S AN APPLICATION FOR GRANT

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FUNDS FOR THE COMMUNITY-BASED INITIATIVE.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: SECOND. >> LINA HIDALGO: MOTIONED BY COMMISSIONER ELLIS AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED? >> NO.

>> NO. >> LINA HIDALGO: I AM IN FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES 3-2 FOR ITEM 167. GRANTS FUNDS FOR THE COMMISSION INITIATIVE. ITEM 181.

DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT ONE? THAT IS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE TEXAS INDIGENT DEFENSE

COMMISSIONAN. >> RODNEY ELLIS: IT IS A GRANT D SOME MAY BE OPPOSED TO THE GRANT SO I WILL JUST MAKE A

MOTION. >> LINA HIDALGO: MOTIONED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ELLIS ALL IN

FAVOR? >> I.

>> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED?

>> NO. NO.

>> LINA HIDALGO: I AM IN FAVOR. THE MOTION CARRIES 3-2.

ITEM 182, DID WE FIND WHETHER PFM IS ON THERE?

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THEY NEED IT TO GO ON THE CONSENT UH GENERAL

STKAU. >> LINA HIDALGO: 182 IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA NOW. 193.

A RENEWAL OPTION FOR ELECTRONIC MONITORING.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: WE CAN DISCUSS THAT LATER.

>> TOM RAMSEY: LET'S DISCUSS IT. >> LINA HIDALGO: 212.

THAT'S THE AGREEMENT OF PAGE SUTHERLAND.

DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT? >> TOM RAMSEY: I DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON IT. I NEED TO DISCUSS IT.

>> LINA HIDALGO: 238, THE GUN BUY BACK EVENT.

DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT ONE NOW?

>> RODNEY ELLIS: FROM MY PRECINCT, YOU ARE ALL OBJECTING

TO THAT AND I MAKE A MOTION. M >> ADRIAN GARCIA: SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO:OTIONED BY COMMISSIONER ELLIS AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA. ALL IN FAVOR?

>> I LEANING -- >> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED?

>> NO. >> LINA HIDALGO: I AM IN FAVOR.

MOTION CARRIES THRAOEU- 3-2 FOR ITEM 238.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ELLIS. >> RODNEY ELLIS: I MIGHT MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT LATER, BUT I WILL SAVE IT FOR LATER.

>> LINA HIDALGO: I WILL LEAVE IT ON THERE FOR DISCUSSION.

251 IS A TRANSMITTAL. I'VE GOT THE MOTION ON ITEM 288.

THIS IS THE MOTION. MOVE APPROVAL TO ESTABLISH THE SALARY OF THE COUNTY COURT ADMINISTRATOR TO AN ANNUAL COMPENSATION OF $202,010 PURSUANT TO THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY COURT OF LAW JUDGES, EFFECTIVE JULY 2ND, 2022.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MOVED. >> LINA HIDALGO: ARE WE OKAY TO MOVE? OKAY.

MOTIONED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA. >> TOM RAMSEY: SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RAMSEY.

ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.

>> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT WAS ITEM 288.

[Emergency/Supplemental items (Part 2 of 3)]

ITEM 293 IS AN MWBE UTILIZATION REPORT.

IT IS SIMPLY A TRANSMITTAL. WE WILL DISCUSS THIS LATER.

ITEM 298, AN ADDENDUM TO THE MASTER AGREEMENT BETWEEN HARRIS COUNTY AND PFM. IS THERE A MOTION?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MOVED. >> RODNEY ELLIS: SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: MOTIONED BY GARCIA AND SECONDED BY EL HREUL.

ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED? >> NO.

>> LINA HIDALGO: I'M IN FAVOR OF ITEM 298, THE MASTER AGREEMENT FOR HARRIS COUNTY PFM, CARRIES 3-2.

ITEM 314, A PROCURE TO PAY IMPROVEMENT INITIATIVE.

DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT ONE? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MOVED.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: SECOND. LEAN LEAP --

>> LINA HIDALGO: MOTIONED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND SECONDED BY ELLIS. ALL IN FAVOR?

>> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED? I AM IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GARCIA, FOR THAT.

317 IS A DISCUSSION AND WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION LATER.

318 IS ALSO A DISCUSSION ITEM. THAT WILL TAKE PLACE LATER.

AND 319 IS A DISCUSSION. I THINK THAT ONE IS FINE, COMMISSIONER RAMSEY, BUT LET US KNOW IF WE NEED TO VOTE ON ITEM

319. >> TOM RAMSEY: OWE WAY -- OKAY.

>> LINA HIDALGO: DID I COVER 299?

>> YES, JUDGE. YOU PUT IT ON THE CONSENT.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. ON THE CONSENT? FOLKS ARE OKAY WITH THAT ONE GOING ON THE CONSENT?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: I MOVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, JUDGE.

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>> RODNEY ELLIS: SECOND. >> LINA HIDALGO: LET ME GO BACK OVER THE ITEMS, COMMISSIONER GARCIA TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. THESE ARE THE ITEMS LEFT OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA. I BELIEVE THESE ARE THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. 286, 289 -- I'M SORRY, SKAOUT -- EXECUTIVE SESSION 286, 289 AND 295.

REGULAR AGENDA 17, 140, 141, 145, 193, 212, 238, 251, 293, 317, 318, 319. DID I MISS ANYTHING?

>> TOM RAMSEY: JUDGE, BEFORE YOU GET OFF, WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND VOTE ON COMMISSIONER ELLIS' RESOLUTION RELATED TO -- IT IS ITEM 310.

I SUSPECT WE WILL NEED TO VOTE ON THAT BEFORE YOU GET OFF.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY. ITEM NUMBER 310.

COMMISSIONER ELLIS. >> RODNEY ELLIS: SO MOVED.

>> LINA HIDALGO: GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: JUDGE, I THINK EVERYBODY -- I THINK WE ALL READ IT. I KNOW YOU -- I DON'T WANT YOU TO BURN OUT BEFORE THE MEETING ON FRIDAY.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT SO I JUST MOVE ADOPTION.

IT IS PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD. I THINK ALL OF US WERE MOVED BY THE HEARINGS IN WASHINGTON, D.C. SO I MOVE ADOPTION OF IT.

THERE MAY BE SPEAKERS. I DON'T KNOW.

>> THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS. >> RODNEY ELLIS: I MOVE

ADOPTION. >> LINA HIDALGO: MOTIONED BY COMMISSIONER ELLIS AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.

>> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED?

>> NO. >> NO.

>> LINA HIDALGO: I'M IN FAVOR THE MOTION CARRIES 3-2.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RAMSEY, FOR IDENTIFYING THAT.

SO I READ THE VARIOUS DISCUSSION ITEMS. DID I MISS ANYTHING ELSE? IN THAT CASE, IS THERE A MOTION

FOR ALL THE ITEMS. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MOVED.

>> LINA HIDALGO: 1 THROUGH 321 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS ALREADY VOTE -- VOTE OWED AND JUST LISTED.

ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.

>> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: ANY OPPOSED? I AM IN FAVOR AND THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

SO I WILL BE LISTENING, Y'ALL, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO BE QUIET.

THAT'S BEFORE I TOTALLY LOSE MY VOICE AGAIN.

AD -- ADD -- >> ADRIAN GARCIA: HOW ABOUT YOU

CALL A LUNCH RECESS FOR AN HOUR? >> R. JACK CAGLE: WE HAVE SOME RESOLUTIONS AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME FOLKS WAITING.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: COMMISSIONER CAGLE, CAN WE TAKE -- I KNOW YOU ARE IN THE ROOM. I AM GOING TO TAKE LIKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK. YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW I AM COMING RIGHT BACK. I HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK.

JACK SKWRAOBG I'M GOOD WITH -- >> R. JACK CAGLE: I'M GOOD.

>> LINA HIDALGO: LET'S TAKE A BREAK.

IT IS 12:22 AND WE WILL BREAK UNTIL 12:30 AND COMMISSIONER

CAGLE WILL TAKE O >> R. JACK CAGLE: IT IS 12:33 AND I HAVE COMMISSIONER ELLIS ON THE LINE.

JUDGE, I KNOW YOU ARE NOT TALKING AND IF YOU ARE THERE?

I NEED TWO MORE HUMANS. >> LINA HIDALGO: I'M SORRY,

COMMISSIONER CAGLE? >> R. JACK CAGLE: I DON'T NEED FOR YOU TO TALK, BUT I HEARD YOU SAY HELLO AND YOU AND I ARE

WAITING FOR A THIRD HUMAN. >> LINA HIDALGO: I THINK -- WE CAN'T RUN THE MEETING UNLESS THERE IS THREE PEOPLE IN PERSON.

BUT YOU MAY WANT TO CHECK WITH JAY ABOUT THAT.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: WE GOT THE THIRD ONE NOW.

COMMISSIONERS' COURT IS NOW BACK IN SESSION.

IT IS 12 -- WOOPS. WE CANNOT START? OH WE HAVE TO HAVE THREE IN THE COURTROOM.

I'M SORRY. >> YES.

THANK YOU. >> R. JACK CAGLE: WE HAVE NOT

STARTED. >> TOM RAMSEY: WE HAVE THREE.

>> WE HAVE THREE. THIS IS JAY, BUT WE NEED THREE IN THE ROOM -- IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AT THEIA TABLE --

>> R. JACK CAGLE: COMMISSIONER GARC IS PRESENT AND IT IS 12:34 AND WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE PRESENT.

WE HAVE JUDGE HIDALGO VIRTUAL. IS COMMISSIONER ELLIS VIRTUAL?

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WE DO NOT HEAR HIM AT THIS TIME, BUT WE WILL GO FORWARD.

[Departments (Part 2 of 3)]

OUR FIRST ITEM THAT WE WILL TAKE WILL BE OUT OF ORDER ITEMS. WE WILL TAKE ITEM NUMBER TWO -- I MEAN ONE UNDER RESOLUTIONS OF THE SCOTT WRIGHT RESOLUTION. WE DO NOT HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS

RESOLUTION, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: SCOTT WRIGHT IS RETIRING AFTER 33 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO HARRIS COUNTY.

HE STARTED IN 1989 WORKING AT THE COUNTY INFORMATION SYSTEMS AS A PROGRAMMER ANALYST. SCOTT, WE THINK YOU'RE AWESOME.

WE ARE RESOLVING THAT WE EXTEND OUR APPRECIATION TO YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE. I THINK THAT WE HAVE ALREADY VOTED ON THIS AND WE HAVE NOW PASSED THIS.

DID WE VOTE ON IT? WE VOTED ON IT? DONE. GOOD JOB, SCOTT.

OUR NEXT RESOLUTION IS ON A TAMMY MISCISIN AND WE HAVE

SPEAKERS FOR TAMMY'S RETIREMENT. >> WE ARE GETTING THEM ON THE LINE NOW. I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN SHE'S

READY. >> R. JACK CAGLE: LET ME KNOW WHEN SHE'S READY. OUR NEXT RESOLUTION WHICH I DON'T THINK WE HAVE SPEAKERS FOR IS THE SORELS RESOLUTION FROM PRECINCT 3. COMMISSIONERER RAMSEY.

>> TOM RAMSEY: THANK YOU, COMMISSION.

IT IS A GREAT DEAL OF SADNESS I WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND TALK ABOUT AN UNFORTUNATE LIFE LOST. I I WILL READ THE RESOLUTION AND BEFORE THE RESOLUTION I WANT TO THANK CRIMESTOPPERS TO ARE THEIR ADVOCACY OF VICTIMS AND THEIR SUPPORT OF VICTIMS. IT READS, WHEREAS KYLEE SOREL'S LIFE WAS STOLEN FROM HER AT AGE NINE WHEN SHE WAS EXECUTED IN A HEINOUS ACT OF VIOLENCE THAT ENDED HER PROMISING FUTURE LESS THAN A MONTH BEFORE HER 10TH BIRTHDAY. WHEREAS KYLEE WAS EXECUTED ALLEGEDLY BY THE EX-BOYFRIEND OF HER MOTHER.

THE EX-BOYFRIEND WALKED INTO THE APARTMENT AND SHOT BRITNEY SORELS AND THEN SHOT KYLEE TWICE BEFORE LEAVING THE APARTMENT.

THE DEFENDANT HAS AN EXTENSIVE CRIMINAL HISTORY INCLUDING TWO CHARGES FOR A TERRORISTIC THREAT AGAINST A FAMILY MEMBER, FELONY CHARGE FOR POSSESSION OF A DEADLY WEAPON, TWO FELONY THEFT CHARGES AND A MULTITUDE OF MISDEMEANORS.

THE DEFENDANT WAS OUT ON THREE FELONY BONDS AT THE TIME OF MURDER. WHEREAS KYLIE WAS EXCITED TO START HER FIFTH GRADE SCHOOL YEAR IN THE FALL.

SHE WAS AN MVP STAR BASKETBALL PLAYER FOR THE GREATER HOUSTON POLICE ACTIVITIES LEAGUE, ON THE BASKETBALL TEAM IN HOUSTON, TEXAS AND LOVED MAKING TIK TOK VIDEOS FOR FRIENDS AND FAMILY.

AND WHEREAS KYLIE IS THE 175TH PERSON KILLED BY A DEFENDANT OUT ON MULTIPLE BONDS IN HARRIS COUNTY SINCE 2020 AND WHEREAS KYLIE WAS DENIED THE BASIC HUMAN RIGHT TO LIFE.

LIFE IS A SACRED GIFT, AND TO SEE A YOUNG SOUL STOLEN FROM US IF A GRIEVOUS ACT OF VIOLENCE REMINDS US THAT WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A VIOLENT CRIME WAVE THAT UNLESS ADDRESSED ONLY WILL CONTINUE TO INTENSITY AND AFFECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE HARRIS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' COURT EXTENDS CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY AND THE FRIENDS OF KYLIE

SORELS. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: COMMISSIONER, I WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THIS RESOLUTION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND A SMALL AMENDMENT.

THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE IN THE LAST WHEREAS.

IT IS THE LAST SENTENCE. IT IS PART OF THE LAST SENTENCE WHERE IT SAYS A VIOLENT CRIME WAVE, PERIOD.

AND THE REST DELETED FROM THE RESOLUTION.

THE REASON I ASK FOR THAT IS BECAUSE OUR COUNTY HAS INVESTED OVER 9 FIGURES IN CRIME REDUCTION.

OUR EFFORTS ARE SHOWING A 4% DECREASE IN VIOLENT CRIME ALREADY. IT IS PROVING OUR INITIATIVES ARE MOVING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

IT IS NOT THE REDUCTION WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, BUT THE REASON I

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STOP AT THE CRIME WAVE IS BECAUSE AFTER THAT IT READS THAT UNLESS ADDRESSED, AND WE ARE ADDRESSING IT.

WHETHER IT IS THE BACKLOG OR IF IT IS THE VIPER PROGRAM OR SHOT SPOTTER OR IF IT IS THE OVERTIME INITIATIVES AND IF IT IS THE TECHNOLOGY. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IF YOU AGREE I WOULD BE HONORED TO SECOND IT.

>> IN THE MEMORY OF KYLIE SORELS I AM NOT GOING TO GO WHERE YOU ARE GOING. I AM SIMPLY GOING TO REMEMBER THE LIFE OF KYLIE SORELS. I DON'T MIND PUTTING THE PERIOD WHERE YOU PUT THE PERIOD, BUT IT IS NOT FOR THE REASON YOU SAY.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: I AGREE. >> TOM RAMSEY: IN THE MEMORY OF KYLIE, I WILL AGREE TO THE PERIOD WHERE YOU INDICATED.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THEN I SECOND. >> R. JACK CAGLE: DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT HAS BEEN MADE AND REQUESTED AND WHACK ACCEPTED ON THE LAST WHEREAS. THE PARAGRAPH, WAS KYLIE WAS DENIED THE BASIC RIGHT TO HUMAN LIFE.

LIFE IS A SACRED GIFT. AND TO SEE A YOUNG SOUL STOLEN IN A GRIEVOUS ACT OF VIOLENCE REMINDS US WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A VIOLENT CRIME WAVE. THE REMAINDER OF THE PARAGRAPH

WILL BE STRICKEN. >> SO IF I CAN JUST GET A NEW RESOLUTION OR DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST DRAW A LINE THROUGH THE

LAST SENTENCE? >> R. JACK CAGLE: IF YOU WILL DRAW FOR THE PURPOSES OF PASSING THIS, A LINE THROUGH THE LAST -- THAT LAST REMAINDER, WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER RESOLUTION DRAWN UP TO BE SIGNED THAT WILL BE -- THAT WILL CURE IT.

FOR THE PURPOSE OF PASSING TODAY WE WILL JUST DREW A LINE IN THE

LAST SENTENCE. >> IS THIS A SECOND MOTION SINCE

WE VOTED ON THIS ITEM? >> R. JACK CAGLE: NO.

WE ARE ABOUT TO VOTE NOW. IT WAS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND

REQUESTED -- >> SO THE SECOND MOTION WE ARE

ABOUT TO VOTE ON NOW? >> R. JACK CAGLE: THERE HAS BEEN A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RAMSEY AND THERE HAS BEEN A SECOND TO THE RESOLUTION AS AMENDED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

I DO HAVE A POINT OF QUESTION FOR JAY.

>> YES, COMMISSIONER? >> R. JACK CAGLE: MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY VOTED ON THIS RESOLUTION PREVIOUSLY. AND SO WE ARE JUST DISCUSSING THEM NOW, WHAT IS THE IMPACT -- I WILL CALL THE ITEM BACK UP

IF -- >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I WILL CALL THE ITEM BACK IF IT WAS ALREADY VOTED ON.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: PROCEDURALLY THAT MAKES SENSE.

WE PREVIOUSLY PASSED IT AND THERE IS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD.

THE SUBSTITUTE IS BY COMMISSIONER RAMSEY AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT WAS NOT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

IT WAS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. GOOD JOB OVER THERE.

>> THANK YOU SKRABG JACK VERY -- >> R. JACK CAGLE: VERY GOOD.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE SUBSTITUTES MOTION?

>> I. >> I.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THAT WOULD BE UNANIMOUS IF I HEARD AN I FROM

COMMISSIONER ELLIS. >> RODNEY ELLIS: YOU DID.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: AND I THOUGHT I HEARD AN I FROM THE JUDGE.

DO WE HAVE -- >> COMMISSIONER, WE HAVE TAMMY

MISCISIN ON THE LINE. >> R. JACK CAGLE: TAMMY, ARE YOU

THERE? >> YES, SIR.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED THE RESOLUTION HONORING YOU. AND I AM JUST GOING TO READ A COUPLE PARTS OF IT. WHEREAS TAMMY MISCISIN, THE SENIOR BUDGET ANALYST WILL RETIRE FROM THE OFFICE OF BUDGET MANAGEMENT ON JUNE 30TH, 2022 AFTER 39 YEARS OF SERVICE.

YOU STARTED WHEN YOU WERE THREE I UNDERSTAND.

YOU STARTED WITH THE AUDITOR. YOU PROGRESSED FROM TYPEWRITERS AND CARBON COPIES TO COME -- COMPUTERS, PROGRAMMING AND SOPHISTICATED ANALYSIS. YOUR MOST VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS COME FROM THE RELATIONSHIPS YOU HAVE BUILT AND THAT YOU HAVE EARNED A REPUTATION FOR KINDNESS, PATIENCE, DEPENDABILITY, COMPETENCE AND TIRELESS ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND ACCURACY. THAT'S IMPORTANT WITH YOU COMPUTER TYPES. WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TEAM AND MANY EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE COUNTY WILL MISS YOU PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY AND THEREFORE WE CONGRATULATE YOU TODAY ON YOUR RETIREMENT.

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DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO US? WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED THIS RESOLUTION.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS VERY GENEROUS RECOGNITION TODAY. IT MEANS A LOT TO ME.

IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: CONGRATULATION S, TAMMY.

>> TOM RAMSEY: CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: OUR NEXT RESOLUTION IS ONE THAT HONORS COLONEL TIMOTHY VAIL. ARE YOU PRESENT?

ARE YOU ONLINE? >> COMMISSIONER CAGLE, IT IS

COLONEL VAIL, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> R. JACK CAGLE: WE CAN HEAR YOU. HAVE I GOOD NEWS, COLONEL.

YOUR RESOLUTION HAS ALREADY BEEN PASSED HONORING YOU.

SO NOTHING YOU CAN SAY AT THIS MOMENT COULD POTENTIALLY JEOPARDIZE THAT. ALTHOUGH ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES COULD ASK FOR A REURGING OF THE RESOLUTION.

IT SAYS WHILE HE COMMANDED ON JULY 2ND, 2019 AFTER 25 DISTINGUISHEDEA YRS HEIL WL RETIRE ONCT OOBER 1ST, 2022.

I KNOW IM ANOT THE ONLY ONE, BUT A LOT OF USIS WH THERE WAS A WAY WELD COU WRITE OUREN FRIDS IN CONGRESS ANDUP RE- YOU FOR

ANOTHER FEW TERMS. >> KPHEGSER - CAGLE- COMMISSIONER CAGLE, IF I. COULDO NGRATULATIONS ON ALL OF YOUR GOOD WORK AND I THINKLD I WOUHA TO DOOTE INS CONGRES JUST THAT. THEY, WERE VERYVERY ADD MEANT THATRE MAYBE THE WOULD BE AHE PLACE REOU IN HARRIS CNTYDO AND I T NOT DISPUTEHAT. THANK YOURV FOR YOUR SEICE TOON OUR NATI AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONEJA.

>> R. CK CAGLE: THERE AREG INTERESTINFACTS THAT I DON'T THINK ALL O OF US ARE AWAREF.TE YOU GRADUAD FROM NOTRE DAME AND YOU GOT A MASTER'S. FROM MIZZOU YOU GOT A MASTER'SA& FROM TEXAS ML UNIVERSITY AS WELAND FROM THE U.S. NAVAL AND WAR COLLEGE. IR DON'T SEE WHERE YOUIC MASTER FROM RE IS ON THIS LIST. YOU ARE ALSO A GRADUATE OFNA THE AIR FORCE MAGEMENT FORCE AND GENERAL STAFF COLLEGE. AND YOUCY HAVE GOTTEN THESE FAN AWARDINGS AND -- AWARDS AND DECORATIONS.

YOU HAVE THE BRONZE STAR AND MARE FOR YOUS SERVICE -- MERITORIOUS SERVICE AND A MERT -- ARMY SUPERIOR AWARD AND AFGHANISTAN CAMPAIGN MEDAL AND GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM EXPEDITIONARY SERVICE MEDAL AND KOREAN DEFENSE SERVICE MEDAL AND THREE OVER SKWRAO*ES MEDAL AND AN ARMYDG STAFF IDENTIFICATION BAE AND COMBAT ACTION BADGE AND AIR ASSAULT BADGE AND PRAYER RAW -- PARACHUTE BADGE AND A BRONZE AND THE MAJOR GENERAL

AUBREY NEWMAN AWARD. >> THAT'S A MOUTHFUL.

>> YEAH. T >> R. JACK CAGLE: YOU HAVEO ADD THIS TO YOUR NEXT RECOGNITION AND YOU HAVE BEEN HONORED BY A RESOLUTION OF THE 4.7 MILLION PEOPLE OF HARRIS COUNTY OF COMMISSIONERS' COURT. AND THAT WE THANK YOU.

COLONEL, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. WAIT.

YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING YET BECAUSE TOM RAMSEY NEEDS TO ROAST YOU FOR A MOMENT.

NEED TO SECOND THIS.SSIONER, I I HAVE HAD THE GOOD PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH A LOT OF COLONELS. NOBODY WOK UP WITH A -- WOKE UP WITH A MORE FOCUSED ATTENTION TO DETAIL THAN YOU DID.

WHETHER IT IS CLEANING OUT THE DITCH SO THAT 1,250 HOMES WOULDN'T FLOOD, WHETHER IT IS LOOKING AT THE COST BENEFIT RATIO AND SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? AND ENGINEERS HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR 40 YEARS. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS DONE ANYTHING ABOUT IT BY SAYING THE COST BENEFIT DOES PRESIDENT MAKE SENSE. DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

YOU ARE THE EXTREME ADVOCATE FOR TUNNELS IN HARRIS COUNTY WHEN SO MANY PEOPLE RUN AROUND AND SAY OH WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. YOU ARE A INSPIRATION TO A LOT OF US WHO WANT TO SEE THINGS DIFFERENT.

WE CAN'T DIG ENOUGH HOLES TO SOLVE OUR DRAINAGE PROBLEM.

AND YOU HAVE BEEN THE LEADER IN THAT.

WHEN WE DEAL WITH PARKS YOU MADE IT EASY.

YOU TRULY ARE AN ENCOURAGEMENT TO A LOT OF US OUT THERE AND I

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HOPE YOU DON'T MOVE OUT OF THE AREA AS WE DO NEED TO CONTINUE TO DEPEND ON YOUR GOOD COUNCIL ON MANY ISSUES.

THANK YOU, COLONEL, FOR ALL YOU DO.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT, COMMISSIONER RAMSEY.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, COLONEL.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO I AM OBVIOUSLY HUMBLED.

YOU KNOW, IN 1997 I GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF HOUSTON. YOU KNOW, EVERY STEP OF THE MILITARY CAREER AND BIOGRAPHY, ALL ROADS, IT SEEMS EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON. IT WAS AN ACCIDENT THAT I ENDED UP BACK IN COASTAL TEXAS. I STARTED MY MILITARY CAREER AS A RESIDENT OF HARRIS COUNTY AND FINISHING MY MILITARY CAREER AS A RESIDENT OF HARRIS COUNTY. THERE IS DEFINITELY A PRIVILEGE IN HUMILITY AND A GREAT HONOR IN TERMS OF TALKING TO ALL OF YOU IN THIS FORUM, AND I APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION.

I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, COMMEND ALL OF YOU.

YOU HAVE MADE MY JOB ENTIRELY EASY.

IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO CAPTURE THE IMAGINATION WITH THE POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH FOR OUR -- FOR OUR NATION AND TPO*R OUR -- FOR OUR STATE AND OUR COUNTY AND THE PEOPLE WE SERVE. IT'S EASY TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY IN THE ARMY ALL THE WAY UP TO THE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE ARMY THAT MY LIFE IS MADE SIMPLE IN TERMS OF HAVING THE MOST SOPHISTICATED AND THE MOST PASSIONATE LEADERS IN THE COUNTY DAY IN AND DAY OUT HELPING US DO THINGS PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO DO. EVEN LAST WEEK FOR CAPTURING THE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE ARMY'S IMAGINATION ON COMPREHENSIVE BENEFITS. IF ANYBODY WILL SHOW THIS NATION HOW TO SUCCEED AND PROVIDE EQUITABLE FLOOD RISK REDUCTION IN ANY MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREA IT IS HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT. AND I AM JUST HAPPY THE GAL -- THE GAL ADVICE SON -- GALVESTON DISTRICT CAN ENCOURAGE THE VISION YOU HAVE AND CHAMPIONING THAT WHEREVER POSSIBLE.

THE DEEP RELATIONSHIPS, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT LOST ON ME.

BETWEEN COMMISSIONER CAGLE AND COMMISSIONER ELLIS AND COMMISSIONER RAMSEY AND JUDGE HIDALGO, IT IS RECOGNIZED.

THE GALVESTON DISTRICT LIVES TO BE RELEVANT, RESPONSIVE AND READY AND I BELIEVE THAT'S EXACTLY -- IF YOU WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THE GALVESTON DISTRICT A MISSION, THAT'S THE MISSION YOU WOULD GIVE US AND THAT'S THE MISSION THAT IS ACCEPTED AND WE ARE BY YOUR SIDE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO. WE HAVE A WHOLE GENERATION-DEFINING MOMENT AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE RIGHT LEADERS TO PARTNER WITH THE ARMY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THANK YOU, COLONEL.

AFTER WE FINISH RECOGNIZING YOU, WE WILL GO INTO ANOTHER FLOOD MATTER. AND SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CONGRATULATIONS. NOW YOU HAVE TO ADD THIS TO THAT LONG LIST OF YOUR ACCOLADES, SIR.

>> YOU CAN COUNT ON IT. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: CONGRATULATION

S, COLONEL. >> THANK Y'ALL.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THAT CONCLUDES OUR OUT OF ORDER RESOLUTIONS.

WE WILL NOW TAKE UP THE CFRTF PRESENTATION.

THAT IS ITEM 246. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS THAT ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE PRESENTATION.

I'M SORRY. 249.

>> THERE WILL BE NO PICTURES TODAY? I WAS ASKED IF THERE WILL BE ANY PICTURES TAKEN TODAY ON

RESOLUTIONS? >> R. JACK CAGLE: YOU WILL HAVE

TO SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: ANY PICTURES

FOR RESOLUTIONS? >> R. JACK CAGLE: I DON'T THINK WE ARE DOING PHOTOS TODAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 249.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK Y'ALL. THANK Y'ALL FOR BEING HERE.

WE HAVE A TRANSMITTAL FROM THE COUNTY FLOOD RESILIENCE TASK FORCE AND THERE ARE SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP.

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STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU MAY PROCEED.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS KEN WILLIAMS AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY FLOOD RESILIENCE TASK FORCE. I HAVE HERE WITH ME TODAY ELAINE MORALES DIAZ, THE VICE-CHAIR.

AND I ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE.

WE ARE HONORED TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY TO PRESENT THE TASK --

>> R. JACK CAGLE: FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, SINCE THIS IS A PRESENTATION THAT IS BEING MADE TO US AND SPONSORED BY THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET, WE WON'T HAVE THE ONE-MINUTE CLOCK RUNNING ON THIS. THANK YOU.

>> WE ARE HONORED TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY TO PRESENT THE TASK FORCE FIRST YEARLY REPORT TO COMMISSIONERS' COURT.

AS WE HAVE SAID BEFORE, THIS WORK WE ARE DOING TOGETHER, THE COUNTY AND THIS TASK FORCE IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

IT SHOWS THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY VOICES AND THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THE COUNTY'S EQUITABLE FLOOD RESILIENCE.

NEXT SLIDE. IN THE PAST YEAR WE DELIVERED FOUR SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENTS TO HARRIS COUNTY WITH TWO THAT WE BELIEVE OR ARE ALREADY AFFECTING THE WAY THE COUNTY APPROACHES FLOOD RESILIENCE EFFORTS.

NEXT SLIDE. NUMBER ONE THAT WE WANT TO POINT OUT HERE IS THE 2022 PRIORITIZATION FRAMEWORK.

PER YOUR REQUEST, WE EVALUATED THE PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE 2022 PRIORITIZATION FRAMEWORK AND DELIVERED A SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN THE FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT INCLUDING PRY YOUR TAU RISE -- PRIORITIZING PEOPLE OVER STRUCTURE IN USING THIS IN THE PRIORITIZATION. SECONDLY, FMBI, WE HAVE PROPOSED A NEW INDEX TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HISTORICAL MITIGATION, INVESTMENTS IN CURRENTS INUNDATION RISK TO IDENTIFY INEQUITIES. THIS IS CALLED THE FLOOD MITIGATION BENEFIT INDEX, THE FMBI.

AND WE HOPE TO SEE IT USED IN THE ANALYSIS FOR THE 2050 FLOOD RESILIENCE PLAN. NEXT SLIDE.

THESE WINS WERE ONLY POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE COUNTY WAS ABLE TO BRING US THE GAP BETWEEN GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY.

USING THIS TASK FORCE. OVER THE NEXT YEAR WE PLAN TO CONTINUE TO ADVISE ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 2050 FLOOD RESILIENCE PLAN AND THE NOD -- AND THE METHOD OF DISTRIBUTION FOR THE CDBG-MIT FUNDS. AND WE WILL COLLABORATE WITH THE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS TO FURTHER DEVELOP THE FLOOD MITT -- MITIGATION FLOOD INDEX. SINCE WE STRONGLY BELIEVE IN THE NEED FOR COMMUNITY VOICES IN THESE EFFORTS, WE ARE GOING TO LIASE TO BUILD THE CAPACITY AND TO INFLUENCE THE FLOOD RESILIENCE EFFORTS OF THE COUNTY.

NEXT SLIDE. AS HARRIS COUNTY MOVES FORWARD WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR A VISION ACROSS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS THAT, NUMBER ONE, THE OFFICE INTEGRATED AN UNDERSTANDING OF OUR PAST FLOOD RISK INVESTMENTS INCURRED VULNERABILITIES.

NUMBER TWO, THE TRANSFORMS OF TRADITIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INTO COMMUNITY-DRIVEN SOLUTIONS. NUMBER THREE, THAT DEVELOPS NEW AND INNOVATIVE POLICIES IN PROJECTS THAT LEVERAGE NATURE-BASED SOLUTIONS AND NUMBER FOUR, PROJECT THAT'S USE A BOTTOM UP COLLABORATIVE APPROACH AND USING DATA THAT IS EQUAL FACIAL TIFF AND QUAN DAY TIFF.

NEXT SLIDE. >> AS PART OF THE REPORT WE REQUEST HARRIS COUNTY COMMIT TO THIS VISION, THE FLOOD

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RESILIENCE PLAN. NUMBER TWO, APPROPRIATE FUNDING FOR THE ROBUST STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT NECESSARY TO MAKE IT COMMUNITY TKREUFB. AND NUMBER THREE, ENSURE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE RESILIENCE TEAM HAS THE TOOLS AND THE SYSTEMS NECESSARY FOR THE COUNTY TO PREPARE THE 2050 FLOOD RESILIENCE PLAN. AS A TASK FORCE WE ARE PLEASED TO DELIVER SUCH WORK TO THE COUNTY REASON OUR FIRST YEAR.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND WE ARE PROUD TO BE MOVING TOWARD MORE EQUITABLE FLOOD RESILIENCE AND RECOVERY.

THANK YOU. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER CAGLE IF I MIGHT? >> R. JACK CAGLE: YOU MAY.

>> WE WILL HAVE REMARKS IN SPANISH NOW.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: BRING THEM ON. >> HI, I AM ELAINE MORALES AND I WILL SHARE THE REMARKS OF THE TASK FORCE IN SPANISH NOW.

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THANK THE TASK FORCE FOR ALL OF THEIR WORK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.

WE NEED THE GROUNDEV COMMUNITY - THE GROUND-LEL COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE TO HELP MAKE SURE THESE PROJECTS MAKE SENSE.

IT IS PHENOMENAL, BUT IT NEVER HURTS FOR COMMUNITY INPUT.

I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR PRODUCT.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE ROPT? REPORT?

IT.ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MOVED ON >> IT IS A TRANSMITTAL.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: WELL, HOWDY TO YOU ALL.

FOR A SECOND I THOUGHT YOU WERE SOMEONE ELSE.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.

YOU ALL BE NICE TO BILL. HE IS MY APPOINTEE.>>

>> TOM RAMSEY: A QUICK QUESTION. COMMISSIONER RAMSEY.

>> TOM RAMSEY: I'M ASSUMING THE TRANSMITTAL WAS GIVEN FOR INPUT.

I THINK IDENTIFIED IN THERE, MRE SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE ARE VOTING ON ANYTHING. MAYBE WE WILL AT SOME POINT.

BUT THERE WERE THREE ITEM THAT'S WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU APPROPRIATE FUNDING OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS FOR THE RESILIENCY PLAN APPROPRIATE FUNDING FOR ENGAGEMENT NECESSARY TO MAKE IT COMMUNITY DRIVEN. AND ENSURE THAT THE RESILIENCE TEAM HAS THE SYSTEMS NECESSARY FOR THE RESILIENCY PLAN.

I THINK OBVIOUSLY Y'ALL WILL BE WORKING WITH FLOOD CONTROL ON THESE THINGS. DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF AN ADVISORY GROUP TO FLOOD CON -- FLOOD CONTROL?

>> YES, SIR. >> TOM RAMSEY: I WANT TO LEVERAGE OUR BEST RESOURCES -- I WANT TO USE OUR BEST RESOURCES TO ADVISE OUR FOLKS WHO ARE TASKED WITH DOING THINGS AND MANY OF WHICH ARE ON THIS LIST THERE WASN'T IDENTIFIED BUDGETS ON THE PLAN AND WHEN COMPARED TO SOMETHING YOU COULD COMPARE IT TO -- BUT AS THE COMMITTEE SITS DOWN AND THE DEVIL IS ALWAYS IN THE DETAIL. IF YOU WANT THE COURT TO UNANIMOUSLY APPROVE SOMETHING, YOU COME BACK WE THINK AN OUT REACH PROGRAM WILL COST X. WE THINK THE 2015 PLAN WILL COST Y. TO EFFECTIVELY ENGAGE THE PUBLIC, WE NEED TO DO X, Y, Z -FRPLGT FLOODED HOMES ARE IMPORTANT TO ME. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU MENTION THAT.

IT WAS GENERICALLY MENTIONED. I AM A FLOODED STRUCTURE KIND OF A GUY AND I KNOW IT IS ON FLOODED STRUCK TOURS.

AS FAR AS I CAN UNDERSTAND THE FLOOD BENEFITS INDEX, IS THAT

SOMETHING IN YOUR COMMITTEE? >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS.

MICHAEL BLOOM A MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE.

>> I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION ON THIS ONE BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE

LIT KNEE OF -- LITANY OF THEM. >> WE CAN GO BACKWARDS.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING THE COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH?

>> YES, SIR. >> IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND FEDERAL UNDERSTANDING. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FORMULA.

I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE AND I HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF NOT AGREEING WITH THE FORMULAS. AS WE LOOK AT THE FORMULA, I

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THINK IT IS EASILY BIASED IN TERMS OF WHO IS PUTTING TOGETHER THE NUMBERS. WE CAREFUL WITH THE QUAN DAY TIFF, BUT MAKE YOU HAVE UNIT KWA DAY TIFF.

QUALITATIVE. TO USE THE FORMULA TO DO OR NOT DO PROJECTS, THAT'S A DANGEROUS ROAD TO GO DOWN.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT SPECIFICALLY TO MY OTHER COMMENTS, MICHAEL. YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT AS ONE PE TO ANOTHER PE, THOSE ARE PROBABLY PRETTY TYPICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY ASKED AS WELL.

>> SURE. AND JUST SO WITH THE COURT'S PERMISSION I CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO PROVIDE A LITTLE MORE BACKSTORY ON THE TONE OF OUR REPORT.

ONE THING WE HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED IS THAT THIS COURT CREATED THE INTPRAU STRUR -- INTPRAU STRUCK -- INFRASTRUCTURE RESILIENCE TEAM WHICH IS THE OFFICE THAT DEALS WITH THE RESILIENCY IN FLOOD. PART OF THE TEAM THOUGH, THEIR TEAM -- THAT WHOLE TEAM IS ASSIGNED TO CREATE THE 2050 PLAN, BUT THEY ARE NOT THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS WE WOULD LOVE FOR THE IRT, THOSE SENIOR MANAGER THAT'S MAKE UP THE IRT AND TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO ARTICULATE AND ESTIMATE WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO DEVELOP A GOOD PLAN THAT IS COLLABORATIVE AND WORKS WITH THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG AHA MOMENTS. YOU HAVE SIX FULL TIME PEOPLE AND A COORDINATOR THAT HAVE OTHER DUTIES AND THEY ARE NOT 100% WITH THIS. HOW DO WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN? AND THE OTHER IS WE WANT TO REFRAME THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

NORMALLY WE ARE USED TO THE NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. HERE ARE THE ENGINEERS AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS PROJECT IDEA AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT IT TO THE PUBLIC AND GET FEEDBACK ON THAT IDEA.

THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO CALL THE PUBLISH AND DEFEND APPROACH.

HERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH FUNDING PROBLEMS. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? IN ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENTS AND THE COMMUNITY RESOURCES AND FLOOD RISK REDUCTION. IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY AND TAKES A LOT OF TIME. IT IS A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS.

IT IS DOOR-TO-DOOR CANVASSING. WE WANTED THE IRT TO COME UP WITH NUMBER AND PRESENT IT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE. THOSE ARE THE BIG TICKET THINGS FOR THE COURT TO REALIZE AND THE OTHER IS RELATED TO THE FLOOD MITIGATION BENEFITS INDEX. *6 YOU AND I MAY BE MORE IN THE WEEDS OF GLO AND FEMA AND CONSERVATION SERVICE AND CORE OF ENGINEER FUNDING AND ALL OF THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.

THEY USE DIFFERENT CALCULATIONS AND DIFFERENT BENEFIT APPROACHES. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE HISTORIC INVESTMENT IN THIS TOWN HAS BEEN GUIDED BY THE 1983 PRINCIPALS AND GUIDELINES DOCUMENT WHICH AVOIDS DAMAGED PROPERTY VALUE. WHEN WE DO THE FLOOD MITIGATION BENEFITS IN -- INDEX WE WILL HAVE A TOTAL THAT SHOWS WHERE THE MONEY WENT AND WHO GOT THE MONEY AND WHY WE RELY SO MUCH ON FEDERAL -- WITH THE FEDERAL CHAIR.

TO WHAT EXTENT WILL WE RELY ON FEDERAL MONEY AND AND TO WHAT EXTENT WILL WE DO IT OURSELVES? YOU HEARD MY COMMENTS EARLIER, AT LEAST I WAS LOOKING AT YOU WHEN I WAS READING THEM.

WE DON'T AGREE WITH THE COST BENEFIT FORMULA THE CORE HAS USED WITH US ON ALL OF THESE PROJECTS.

YOU GOT AN AMEN FROM THE CHOIR HERE ON THAT POINT.

>> AND DR. PIERCE'S WORK ON COMPREHENSIVE BENEFITS AND WORKING WITH THE ASSISTANT ATTORNEY -- OR THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IS A GAME CHANGER. IF WE CAN GET MORE BENEFITS AND NOT JUST PROPERTY AVOIDED THAT IS A HUGE WIN.

I APPLAUD YOU FOR DOING THAT. >> COMMISSIONER ELLIS, DID YOU

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HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD? >> RODNEY ELLIS: I DID.

I WANTED TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN AND HIS ENTIRE BOARD.

MICHAEL, THANK YOU. WE HAVE THE FEDERAL COST BENEFIT TRACK BECAUSE WE HAVE ALWAYS CHASED THAT MONEY.

THAT'S WHY THE OTHER WAS NEGLECTED THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

AND MICHAEL IS RIGHT. WE HAVE TO DECIDE TO GET OFF OF IT BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO HELP. IT IS AMAZING HOW MANY PEOPLE WE TALK TO WHEN WE UNDERSTAND IT WE SAY THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE FEDERAL LAW.

I THINK THAT'S WHY THE WORK OF THIS TASK FORCE WILL BE.

THEY ARE LEADERS. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT CONCLUDES THE REPORTED -- THE REPORT.

WE WILL NOW TAKE THE SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP AND ARE PRESENT. IF THERE IS ANYONE IN THE HALLWAY, LUCINDA, AND IF YOU WILL HAVE THEM COME IN, I WILL GO THROUGH THE LIST WHO SAID THEY WOULD BY -- THEY WOULD BE PRESENT. WE HAVE SPEAKER NUMBER 11, ALEX MELGAR. ARE YOU PRESENT? THEY JUST LEFT? MR. SANDBRI IDGE, COME ON DOWN

PLEASE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE HIDALGO AND COMMISSIONER RAMSEY AND COMMISSIONERS.

I WANT TO EXPRESS MY RESPECT FOR ALL OF YOU AND THANK YOU FOR ALL

YOU DO. >> R. JACK CAGLE: STATE YOUR

NAME. >> MICHAEL STENBRIDGE.

I AM HERE FOR Z08. SCOTT EL -- SCOTT ELMER DID A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION AND I AM HERE ABOUT WHITE OAK TUNNEL.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLOOD DAMAGE MAPS IT DOESN'T GO ALL WAIT TO JERSEY VILLAGE. WE NEED IT TO GO TO JERSEY VILLAGE OR THE TOP OF JERSEY VILLAGE AND THEN FLOW DOWN.

JERSEY VILLAGE IS A BIG BLOB AND WE NEED THE TUNNELS.

IT GOES BETWEEN 610 AND PWEPLT WAY 8.

BELT WAY 8. GREENS BY KWROU -- BY -- BAYOU

AND BUFFALO BAYOU -- >> TOM RAMSEY: PLEASE CONTINUE.

DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE? >> YES.

BUFFALO BAYOU HAS 26 MILES. GREENS BAYOU AND CYPRESS HAS 20, 22. WHITE OAK HAS 16.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE BAYOU THAT OVER FLOWS BETWEEN THE HALFWAY POINT WHERE IT IS PROJECTED UP THROUGH JERSEY VILLAGE THAT FLOODS. THERE IS DRASTIC PROPERTY DAMAGE THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE TUNNEL TO CONTINUE THROUGH JERSEY VILLAGE.

THE CONVEYANCE CHANNEL HAS NEVER WORKED PROPERLY.

THE BELT WAY IS A CHOKE -- CHOKE POINT.

IT CAN GO BENEATH THAT AND CIRCUMVENT THAT AND TAKE A LOT OF IT OUT THROUGH THE CHANNEL. WE THINK IT IS A GREAT PROJECT.

IT IS A $30 BILLION PROJECT. WE WANT TO BE PUT INTO THE PROJECT. THERE ARE TRAILER PARKS AND FOREST AND A LOT OF THOSE HOMES FLOOD.

WE WANT TO STAND UP AND BE INCLUDED.

>> TOM RAMSEY: THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

>> I WANT TO EXPRESS MY RESPECT FOR ALL OF YOU COMMISSIONERS,

JUDGE HIDALGO. >> TOM RAMSEY: THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN HERE A

COUPLE THREE HOURS. >> YES, SIR.

>> TOM RAMSEY: LET ME MAKE ONE OTHER POINT.

WHAT WE UNDERSTAND ABOUT JERSEY VILLAGE IS THAT THAT'S THE CENTER OF SUB SIGH -- SUBSIDENCE.

THE LARGEST WELLS THAT THE CITY OF HOUSTON HAS IS IN JERSEY VILLAGE. THE AMOUNT OF SUBSIDENCE THAT OCCURRED IN JERSEY VILLAGE IS LARGER THAN ANY OTHER AREA.

I AM GETTING NODS BACK THERE. THAT'S IN THE COUNTY.

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IT IS UNIQUE AND IT IS SPECIFIC. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WE WILL GET IT ON OUR RADAR FOR ACTION.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. >> R. JACK CAGLE: LUCINDA, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER IN-PERSON SPEAKERS PRESENT?

>> YES. >> R. JACK CAGLE: PHRAES COME FORWARD. SPEAK -- SPEAKERUM NBER?

>> NUMBER 6. >> R. JACK CAGLE: NUMBER 6 ON PAGE. ONEMS . MURRAY, PLEASE STATE YOUR

NAME. >> I AM LINDA MURRAY ANDE ACTIV PRESIDENT OF RIVER WOOD CLUB. H WEAVE COME DOWNDA HERE TOY BECAUSEK OUR PARISDE UNATTEND.A THERETHER QUESTIONS ON THAT WEEY HAVE RODN ELLIS'CE OFFI ANSWERING AND GOINGUG THROH.

IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUTIN GETTG A PUBLICTI FOR INFORMAONT REQUESYOU HAVE TO PAY PERAN PAGE D WE DON'T HAVEF THAT SORT O MONEY. IF WE DON'T KNOW THE YEAR OFON ALLOCATI. THEYG ARE REFURBISHINIT THE COMMUNY CENTER.SE AND THERE EMS TO BE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUTPA THAT. THE RK IS IF OPERATION.

THIS IS IN SUMMERTIME AND WE NEED ANPA ATTENDANT IN THE RK.RE THESE KIDS A IN SCHOOL -- THEYCH ARE OUT OF SOOL ANDAV THEY NEED TO HE THE PARK. KIDS ARE GONNA TO DO.AT THEY WANT I AM A RETIRED EDUCATOR.

MA'AM, YOUR TIME IS UP.LE

>> R. JACK CAG: COMMISSIONER ELLIS?

>>OU RODNEY ELLIS: THANK Y FOR COMING.

I KNOW MY STAFF REACHED OUT TO YOU. T THEY WOULD BE MOREHAN HAPPY. TO VISIT WITH YOU AS YOU KNOW, SMOKY JASPER IS NOT A COUNTY PARK.

>> I AM TALKING ABOUT BARBARA JORDAN BARBARA JORDAN IS.

SMOKY JASPER IS THE CITY.HE >> RODNEY ELLIS: TY'LL VISIT WITH YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING.

>> THANKS A LOT. AND WE NEED TO HAVE -- THE NAACP EDUCATIONIM COMMISSIONERS AGAINT CRE.

IT NEEDS TO BE STAFFED. DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN PLAY

WITHOUTCK SUPERVISION. >> R. JA CAGLE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.HE LUCINDA, DO WE HAVE ANY OTR SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME HERE IN-PERSON?

>> NOT IN R PERSON. NO, SIR.

>>. JACK CAGLE: THEN WE WILL TAKE THIS TIME TO BREAK FOR

LUNCH.Y >> ADRIAN GARCIA: YOU'RE M

HERO.AD >> R. JACK CAGLE: I HAVE H --

>> WE HAVE WALTER PROFER HERESE. >> R. JACK CAGLE: OH, PLEA COME DOWN. MR. PROTHRO IS SPEAKER NUMBER 1

[Appearances before court (Part 1 of 2)]

ON THE NONAGENDA-RELATED ITEMS. YOU MAY PROCEED.

>> MY NAME IS WALTER PROTHRO. COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO INTRODUCE THE GENERAL PUBLIC OF HARRIS COUNTY ON WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN USING HARRIS HEALTHFO FACILITIES FROM EXPERIENCE. THE LLOWING IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FILE A COMPLAINT WITH EVIDENCE.

AS I HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE ABOUT HOW DR. STEVEN CHIN OF BAYLOR COLLEGE OF MEDICINE AND HIS STAFF IN THE RADIOLOGY DEPARTMENT VIOLATED REQUIRED PROCEDURES AND CAUSED SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT NOT NEEDED.

THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS IS THIS. THEY CHANGED THE PROCEDURE I WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE WITHOUT INFORMING ME OR LOOKING AT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS PROCEDURE. THEY NEVER DID A PHYSICAL EXAM BEFORE THE PROCEDURE AND FALSIFIED THE MEDICAL REPORTS TO THAT EFFECT. THE ATTENDING RESIDENT DR. KEATO N SEAN DID THE PROCEDURE AND FURTHER VIOLATING THE SAFETY POLICIES. DR. SHAW WAS NOT SUPERVISED

DURING THE PROCEDURE. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

YOUR TIME IS UP. >> CAN I HAVE THIS PLACED IN THE

RECORD, PLEASE? >> R. JACK CAGLE: THAN THAT TO THE BAILIFF, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU WILL HAND THAT TO THE CLERK SO IT IS MADE OF PART OF THE MINUTES OF TODAY'S PROCEEDINGS.

LIEU SIN -- LUCINDA, IS THAT EVERYONE?

>> >> R. JACK CAGLE: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COURTROOM SPA -- THAT EXPECTED TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, MY COLLEAGUE REQUESTED AN HOUR FOR LUNCH TODAY SO THAT HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO RUSH TOO QUICKLY.

WITH THAT IN MIND IT IS NOW 1:24.

I AM JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT AN EVEN NUMBER AND WE WILL COME BACK AT 2:30. WE WILL THEN TAKE THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE VOTED ON EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON EXCEPT FOR I THINK WE MAY HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM THAT WE NEED TO TAKE UP.

>> AND DISCUSSION ITEMS. >> AND THE DISCUSSION ITEMS.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: AND A COUPLE OF DISCUSSION ITEMS.

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WE WILL BRING THOSE UP AFTER WE TAKE ON OUR VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.

WE NOW ADJOURN TO 2:30. >> R. JACK CAGLE: IT IS 2:32 IN THE AFTERNOON AND WE ARE CONTINUING WITH COMMISSIONERS' COURT. I HAVE MY TRUSTY STAFF.

WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION. THEN WE ITEMS 17, 140, 141, 145, 193, 212, 238 HAS BEEN VOTED ON AND WE HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS POST VOTE. 251 AND 293.

WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON 217 AND PROBABLY NO ADDITIONAL ACTION.

THERE IS AN UPDATE ON 218 WITH NO ACTION ON 219.

>> 317, 318 AND 319? >> 317 AND 318 AND 319 FOR WHICH WE NEED TO HAVE DISCUSSION. WE PROBABLY DO NOT NEED VOTES.

WE WILL PICK UP ITEM NUMBER 17. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER GARCIA, YOU MAY PROCEED.

MR. BERRY, THIS IS BEING PROPOSED -- I AM NOT SURE IF THE COUNTY ENGINEER IS HERE. THIS HAS BEEN PROPOSED -- IF I

READ THIS RIGHT 700 MILLION -- >> COMMISSIONER GARCIA, I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER CAGLE, WE DID HAVE

THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS. >> R. JACK CAGLE: OH, WE DID HAVE THE SREUR -- THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, MYEM APOLOGIES.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: ON DIFFERENT ITS?

>> R. JACK CAGLE: ON ALL OF THE ITEMS. LET'S TAKE THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS. I AM LOOKING FOR MY LIST.

>> THE FIRST VIRTUAL SPEAKER IS SPEAKER NUMBER 8, KEITH SUAREZ SPEAKING UNDER ITEM 16 UNDER COVID-19.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

I WANT TO CALL OUT JUDGE HIDALGO AND EVERYONE PRAU VOTING SRABG -- PROMOTING VACCINATION OF COVID-19 AGAINST CHILDREN.

IT SHOWS THAT THE CHILDREN WHO WERE VACCINATED WERE 15 TO 20 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BECOME INFECTED COMPARED TO THE CHILDREN NOT VACCINATED. NONE OF THE UNVACCINATED CHILDREN WERE HOSPITALIZED FOR COVID.

CURRENTLY THE RISK OF A CHILD DYING FROM COVID WAS TWO IN ONE MILLION AND THE LONG-TERM SIDE EFFECTS ARE KNOWN AND IT IS NOTHING LESS THAN MALL ALIGNED. WE MUST PROTECT THE CHILDREN.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: OUR NEXT VIRTUAL SPEAKER, THEIR NUMBER

AND NAME PLEASE? >> IT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 9, BETH WHITE SPEAKING UNDER COUNTY ADMINISTRATION.

HAVE YOU ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

SKWR-PL HERE -- I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON THE PACKAGE BEING CONSIDERED FOR A POTENTIAL INCREASE IN YOUR BOND AUTHORITY AND OFFER OUR PARTNERSHIP AS YOU CONSIDER PART -- PARK PROGRAMS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS PRE SUM CHEW US WITH, BUT -- PREMSUN -- PRESUMTUOUS, I WOULD LIKE PARK TO BE NOTED AS PART OF THE ENVIRONMENT GOAL THE IMPROVEMENT OF WATER EQUAL WOULD PROTECT HUMAN AND WILDLIFE HABITAT AND BIODIVERSITY.

AND IT IS PART OF OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND PUBLIC HEALTH WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE PANDEMIC. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER GARCIA FOR INTRODUCING THE RESOLUTION ON

PARK AND RECREATION. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM, YOUR TIME

IS UP. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN.

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>> RODNEY ELLIS: I HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER CAGLE.

>> YES. >> RODNEY ELLIS: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MS. WHITE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: YOU MAY. >> RODNEY ELLIS: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GIVE US A SENSE OF WHO IS ON YOUR BOARD, BY THE WAY.

>> OUR PWOEFRD -- BOARD HAS 29 MEMBERS.

CHAIRMAN WALLACE IS OUR CHAIRMAN JILL DRUID IS THE VICE-CHAIRMAN.

AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OF ENVIRONMENTALISTS AND ATTORNEYS

AND PHILANTHROPISTS. >> RODNEY ELLIS: WHEN THE PARKS BY YOUTH PACKAGE CAME ALONG TELL US WHAT CAME FROM THE PRY VEHICLE SECTOR AND IN TERMS OF THE FUNDING SOURCES.

>> I'M SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN?

>> JUST GIVE US A BREAK DOWN ON THE --

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: YOU CUT OUT, COMMISSIONER.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF YOUR FUNDING SOURCES?

>> YES. THANK YOU.

>> THE BOND WAS PASSED IN 2012 AND WE PLEDGE TO MATCH THAT.

WE WOUND UP BEING 128 MILLION AND SOME OF THAT IS DUE TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND IT WAS PRIMARILY AND THE GRANTS PRECINCT ONE, THREE AND FOUR USED TO HELP WITH BIO GREEN WAYS I SHOULD BE CLEAR THAT THERE WERE ADDITIONAL GRANTS THAT CAME THROUGH FROM FEDERAL SOURCES. IT WAS A GREAT INCENTIVE TO IMPROVE THE PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN THIS MULTI-PURPOSE

INFRASTRUCTURE. >> AND THE CITY STEPPED UP WITH A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS? I KNOW IT WAS ON COUNTY LAND, BUT IT WAS THE CITY MONEY THAT STEPPED UP.

WE PUT MONEY IN LATE. I KNOW PRECINCT 1 DID.

THE CITY STEPPED UP FOR $1MILLION? WOULD YOU REFEW FOR US WHEN THOSE ITEMS PASSED, WHAT WAS THE VOTE AND WHICH WAS THE MOST POPULAR ONE.

>> THE PARKS BOND WAS CLEARLY MOST POPULAR WITH 60% APPROVAL

BY THE VOTERS. >> THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR

SIGNING UP TO SPEAK. >> R. JACK CAGLE: ANYONE ELSE FOR BETH WHITE? THANK YOU, BETH.

>> NEXT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 63 SPEAKING ON ITEM 317 UNDER SUPPLEMENTAL ITEMS. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM A RESIDENT OF PRECINCT ONE.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME THIS AFTERNOON TO LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS. I AM CALLING IN TODAY BECAUSE I SAW COMMISSIONER RAMSEY DISCUSSED THE COST OF THE EXPANSION. I UNDERSTAND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS DIFFICULT, BUT THE LARGER CAUSE OF LOSS IS LOSING THIS PROJECT. I WILL ONLY TOUCH ON IT QUICKLY BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE A MINUTE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW, BUT LAST SUN -- SUNDAY THERE WAS A HUGE HEAT WARNING.

WE ARE ALREADY COOKING THE HOUSTONIANS ON CONCRETE AND THE SOLUTION WILL RENDER THE AREA UNLIVABLE AND THE AIR UNBREATHABLE SKWAEU THANK YOU, --

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM, YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

>> OUR NEXT SPEAKER? >> SPEAKER 64 SPEAKING ON 317.

>> I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON 317. DELAYS ARE BEING CAUSED AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER RAMSEY WANTS TO BRING IT UP, BUT WITH TEXDOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEMOLITION [INAUDIBLE]

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AND MEETING ON FRIDAY, THE ENGINEER WAS UNABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THEY DON'T WANT THE COST TO GO UP AND I KNOW THE COUNTY HAS BEENEN STKPWAEUPBLGING IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM BUT TEXDOT SAYS THEY ARE IN BAD FAITH.

THEY HAVE SHOWN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING AND THEY WANT TO BULL -- BULLDOZE THE COMMUNITY.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER?

>> 65, MOLLY COOK SPIKE -- SPEAKING ON ITEM 317.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>> HELLO, COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR --

[INAUDIBLE] >> ADRIAN GARCIA: YOUR AUDIO IS NOT COMING IN. PLEASE TRY AGAIN.

YOUR AUDIO IS NOT COMING THROUGH.

>> HOW ABOUT NOW? CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: YES. BETTER.

>> SORRY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO MY COMMENTS TODAY. AS I I SAID, I AM GRATEFUL THAT I HAD A [INAUDIBLE] THAT SHAPED MY LIFE FOR THE BETTER.

THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER RAMSEY FOR PUTTING THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA. WE DON'T WANT THIS TO FALL OUT OF PEOPLE'S CONSCIOUSNESS. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND ZOOM OUT. TEXDOT HAPPENS IN SEGMENTS AND HIGHWAYS. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS THE KO*GS OF A HIGHWAY SYSTEM -- THE COST OF A HIGHWAY SYSTEM THAT CONTINUES OVER AND OVER [INAUDIBLE].

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM, YOUR TIME IS UP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU,

MOLLY. >> R. JACK CAGLE: THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE. >> NUMBER 68, ERIN ERICKSON.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> HELLO, COMMISSIONERS.

I AM ERIN ERICKSON AND A RESIDENT OF PRECINCT 1.

FIRST I WANT TO ASK FOR AN END FOR THE COUNTY'S LAWSUIT AGAINST TEXDOT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT COST ITSELF CAN MEAN SO MANY THINGS.

IT -- WHAT IS THE COST OF A NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A FREEWAY EXPANSION? PICKING UP AND MOVING YOUR FAMILY TO A NEW AREA COSTS MONEY.

MOVING A BUSINESS COSTS MONEY. ARE THESE COSTS YOU ARE EXAMINING TOO? BUSINESSES FORCED TO RELOCATE WILL HAVE TO START OVER AGAIN IF THEY ARE LUCKY TO EVEN GET A NEW SPACE. SPAOEPL FORCED FROM THEIR HOME AND WILL HAVE TO MOVE WILL LEAVE THEIR COMMUNITY.

COSTS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED WHEN WE SPEAK OF THE EXPANSION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> R. JACK CAGLE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.

>>EX NT ISUM NBER 69, CHLOE COOK SPEAKINGN O317.

YOU HAVENE O MINUTE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>> HI, CAN YOUR HEAME? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: YES, MA'AM.

R. JACK CAGLE: YOU MAY PROCEED.

>> Y CANOU HEAR ME? >> YES.>> GOOD AFTERNOON,CO MMISSIONERS.

ILO AM CHE COOK ANDA I AM RESIDENT OF PRECINCT 1. A TORGUE WE SHOULD MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD TOIS AVOID RING COSTS AND I INFLATIONGNORES THAT TEXD HAS HAD TWOO DECADES TACK A HA JOBRO ON THIS PJECT. OF THISNOT THE ULT COURT AND OF THE COUNTY ORAN HOUSTONIS, BUT TEXDOTGI IS DRAGNG THIS OUT. ITAB IS UNCONSCIONLE TO ME THAT WE RUIN I-56 WITH AND [INAUDIBLE] WITH OUR EVERYDAY LIVES AND THED PRIMARY FLOOEVACUATION DESTINATION OF A THOUSANDLL HOMS AND MIIONS AND BILLIONS OF LAST PROPERTY THIS WILL CAUSE MORETH FATAL CRASHES AN WE ALREADY SR-FPLT THE REALNK COST --

>> THA YOU, MA'AM, YOUR TIMEHA IS UP.

>> TNK YOU.LE >> R. JACK CAG: THANKNE YOU, MS.

SPEAKER, PLEASE. >> NEXT IS BENJAMIN PETERS SPEAKING ON ITEM 317. HAVE YOU ONE MINUTE.

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GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. I AM ED PETERS AND I AM WITH TEXDOT45. I AM ECHOING WHAT A LOT OF OTHER COMMENTERSNG ALREADY MADE. DISCUSSITH THE COST OF DELAYING E I-45 EXPANSION WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF A .DISASTROUS PROJECT ON OUR CITY PENYWISE POUND FOOLISH IS AN EXPRESSION YOU CAN USE. WE NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT.

WE DON'T WANT TO RUSH THROUGH A PROJECT THAT WILL LEAD TO LOST REVENUE AND LOST HOUSING. OUR TOTAL COST OF LIVING IS SIMILAR TO NEW YORK BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING BUT FREEWAY AND ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE ARE NOT INVESTING ENOUGH IN TRANSIT AND PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE AND PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE. WE CAN'T KEEP BUILDING FREEWAYS TO PAY FOR THINGS. THERE IS GOING TO BE NOTHING

LEFT. >> YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> THANK YOU. BYE.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THANK YOU, MR. DO WE HAVE ANYMORE SPEAKERS?

>> NUMBER 62 MICHAEL MORITZ. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> R. JACK CAGLE: WE CAN HEAR YOU.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> COOL.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL MORRIS AND SPEAKING TO URGE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' COURT TO END THE STAY WITH TEXDOT.

IT WAS A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH TO DO MEANING -- MEANINGFUL NEGOTIATIONS AFTER TEXDOT TRIED TO TEAR DOWN THE [INAUDIBLE] THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT GOOD FAITH.

THEY DECIDED TO BUY EXTRA BUILDINGS BECAUSE OF THE LOSS OF THE BALLPARK THAT WERE NOT NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT FOOT PRINT. AS A RESULT IT COST TAXPAYERS TENS OF MILLIONS OF TKHRA*S IN THE COST -- DOLLARS IN THE COST OF PURCHASING THE BUILDINGS AND THE COST OF TEARING THEM DOWN.

HOUSTON WILL HAVE TO BUILD MORE HOUSING AND THAT WILL FALL BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS AS WELL. IT IS DESPICABLE TO DISCUSS THE COST BEING BURDENSOME AND IT IS AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER.

AS A RESULT END THE STAY -- >> THANK YOU, SIR.

YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MORITZ. DO WE HAVE ANYMORE SPEAKERS?

>> NEXT NUMBER 67, FABIAN RAMIREZ SPEAKING ON ITEM 17.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> HELLO, EVERYONE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM FABIAN RAMIREZ AND WITH T-RBGZ EXD -- TEXDOT, I-45. I WANT TO BE CLEAR AND TO THE POINT. I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS. I WANT TO SAY THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING DOWNTOWN ARE BEING ATTACKED WITH GENOCIDE TACTICS BUT THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

THESE PEOPLE, INCLUDING MYSELF, WE DON'T NEED TO LEAVE OUR COMMUNITY OR OUR HOMES FOR THIS FREEWAY TO COME UP.

THERE IS NO TRUST IN THIS ORGANIZATION AND THE CITY OF HOUSTON NEEDS TO DEFEND ITS CONSTITUENTS.

WE NEED TO STAND UP TOGETHER AND PUT AN END TO THE PRACTICE, THIS LEVEL OF ENGINEERING IS DISGUSTING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> THANK YOU, MR. RAMIREZ.

ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS? >> YES, SIR.

[Appearances before court (Part 2 of 2)]

NOW WE ARE MOVING TO THE NONAGENDA-RELATED SPEAKERS.

SPEAKER NUMBER THREE, GARY PETERS.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU. I LIVE OFF CLAY ROAD.

AS I CALLED THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE, THE DISPATCH COMMUNICATION REPEATEDLY TELLS ME THEY DO NOT SEND DEPUTIES TO ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY UNLESS IT IS A CONTRACT WITH THE CON STABLG -- CONSTABLE'S OFFICE. I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS.

BECAUSE WE ARE NOT A CONTRACT THEY REFUSED ME POLICE SERVICE THOUGH WE PAY TAXES AND MONEY GOES TO THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE AND EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY TO PAY TAXES, THEY ARE REFUSING POLICE SERVICE. ON THE 16 OF THE MONTH I GOT A CALL FROM A FEMALE CAPTAIN WHO CALLED ME UP TO START AN ARGUMENT WITH ME AND ACCUSED ME OF NOTHING BUT WANTING A POLICE OFFICER WITH ME AROUND THE CLOCK.

IT IS WRONG AND OBVIOUSLY SHE HAS TOO MUCH TIME ON HER HANDS.

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>> THANK YOU, SIR. YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS?

>> YES, SIR. SPEAKER NUMBER 5, NONAGENDA, STEPHANIE PILAR. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE. >> I AM CALLING BECAUSE I WORK FOR HARRIS COUNTY IN ELECTION TIME.

WE CAN'T GET PAID LIKE THEY SAID AND WE ARE NOT GETTING ANY INFORMATION. [INAUDIBLE] AND IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WE CAN GO THROUGH TO RECTIFY THIS SITUATION?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: MA'AM, THIS IS COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

I WILL HAVE SOMEONE FROM MY OFFICE REACH OUT TO YOU.

>> THANK YOU.S: >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU.

>> RODNEY ELLI THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

IF I CAN HELP, LET US KNOW. >> R. JACK CAGLE: ANY FURTHER

SPEAKERS? >> THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS,

COMMISSIONER. >> R. JACK CAGLE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE IN GETTING THROUGH THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS. WE WILL NOW GO BACK TO --

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: ITEM 17. >> R. JACK CAGLE: ITEM 17.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: MAY I CONTINUE?

>> R. JACK CAGLE: YOU MAY. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: MR. BERRY, THIS PROPOSAL, WE TALKED ABOUT A BILLION AT THE LAST MEETING OR THE POTENTIAL OF. AND WE ARE SEEING A BILLION BEING PROPOSED AND VARIOUS ASPECTS OF ROADS IN TRANSIT 300 MILLION FOR ROAD FUNDS, 200 MILLION FOR DRAINAGE.

50 FOR VISION 0. 50 IN MULTI-MODAL, 100 FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE AND 200 FOR PARK BONDS.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING AVAILABLE FOR OUR CITIES.

AND I HAVE OUT OF THE 34 -- 34 CITIES I HAVE 17 OF THOSE.

AND THEY ARE ALWAYS A DIRE NEED. THERE WAS A STRONG THOUGHT THAT A -- $1.2 BILLION WAS AVAILABLE TO US.

WHY THE CHANGE IN PRESENTATION? >> IT WAS NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT THERE IS WAS CLEAR DIRECTION ON A BILLION -- $1.2 BILLION.

I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH INCREASING IT AND WE HAVE THE NEED IN SOME OF THE NUMBERS WE SENT OVER.

AS TO THE QUESTION OF PARTNERSHIPS, AS I KNOW YOU DO NOW, OBVIOUSLY SOME COMMISSIONERS USE PART OF THEIR ALLOCATED FUNDS TO DO PARTNERSHIPS.

IF IT IS THE WILL OF THE COURT WE CAN CREATE A PROGRAM OR A POT OF MONEY DEDICATED TO PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHERS.

WE COULD DO THAT IN A PARK BOND. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I AM NOT SURE WHAT MY COLLEAGUES THINK, BUT I WOULD BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THAT.

THE CITIES HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE TAX BASE WE HAVE. IF NOT FOR OUR SUPPORT AND COLLABORATION, AND I CAN SEE THE COUNTY ENGINEER BACK THERE.

THE STRUCTURE OF OUR PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM HAS BEEN VERY, VERY EFFECTIVE. THAT'S WHY I WAS -- I HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR DR. PETERSON. I HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS FOR PARTNERSHIP PROJECTS. I NEVER -- I NEED EVERY PENNY FOR MY PRECINCT, AND I NEED IT FOR OUR PARTNERS IN TERMS OF THE VARIOUS CITIES. I WOULD BE AN ADVOCATE FOR STRONG CONSIDERATION OF THE 1.2 TO BE PUT ON THE TABLE WITH THE THOUGHT THAT IT COULD BE DEDICATED TO A PARTNERSHIP WITH

OUR CITIES. >> I THINK PARTNERSHIPS DO TWO THINGS. IT BRINGS PEOPLE TO THE TABLE.

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WHEN YOU ARE PARTNERING UP, YOU GET A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THE

NEEDS ARE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> TOM RAMSEY: THERE ARE MULTIPLE BENEFITS TO PARTNERSHIPS WHERE YOU ARE DEALING WITH A BOND ISSUE OR ANY

KIND OF COUNTY INITIATIVES. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US? AND IS TODAY THE DEFINITIVE VOTE

YOU NEED? >> IT IS A DISCUSSION TODAY.

WE HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION AND IF WE WANT TO GET TO THE

DISCUSSION, THAT'S FINE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: DANIEL, DOES EVERYTHING CHANGE FROM THIS PRESENTATION TO THE LAST?

>> NO. WE HAVE GONE OVER THE NUMBERS WITH THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND WE ARE COMFORTABLE AT 1.2 UP TO 1.5. AND I WANT TO FLAG QUICKLY AND TO BE CLEAR THE CHANGE IS AT A BILLION.

THAT MEANS ANYBODY WHOSE HOME IS VALUED AT $314,000 WOULD BE ABOUT $27. MOVING UP WOULD BE $32.

WHAT I DO WANT TO FLAG IS ONE. HARRIS COUNTY HAS BEEN FORTUNATE THAT ASSESSMENTS HAVE GROWN AS WELL AS ANY PLACE IN THE COUNTRY. WHAT FOLKS ARE GONNA SEE IS THE TAX RATE COMING DOWN. ALSO BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN SO DILIGENT ABOUT PAYING OUR BONDS AS SOON AS 2028, THE RATE FOR THE INTEREST FOR DEBT WILL GO BELOW WHAT IT IS TODAY.

WE ARE PAYING BONDS AT A PRETTY PRESTIGIOUS RATE.

WE WILL HAVE TO ISSUE SOMETHING. >> COMMISSIONER, FOR YOUR QUESTION ON WHAT WE NEED TODAY, WE NEED DIRECTION ON WHERE COURT MEMBERS ARE. EYE -- IDEALLY ALL FIVE, OR WHERE THE MAJORITY ARE. THE TIMELINE WOULD BE -- IF WE PUT SOMETHING ON THE ORDER BE ADOPTED AUGUST 12TH TO SEPTEMBER TIME FRAME. WHILE WE HAVE SOMETHING TO START WITH, WE DO NEED FEEDBACK ON THAT BECAUSE THERE IS MORE TO

DO. >> SO I WILL JUST DIRECT IF YOU CAN WORKUP A COUPLE OF NUMBERS FOR ME, BUT I THINK I AM VERY -- I KNOW I AM ADD -- ADAMANT THAT MY CITIES NEED SUPPORT.

I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE 1 BILLION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A WORKUP OF THE 1.1 BILLION AND 1.2 BILLION.

>> I'M SORRY MY LIGHTS WENT OFF. THE LIGHTS ARE ON AUTO AND THEY WENT OFF. OBVIOUSLY I THINK I EXPRESSED A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THE SUPPORT AND YOU HEARD THAT FROM COMMISSIONER GARCIA. I WOULD LIKE TO GET A SENSE OF THE TIMETABLE. I ASSUME WE HAVE TO DECIDE, AND FOR OBVIOUS REASONS PEOPLE MAY BE RELUCTANT.

WOULD YOU SAY SEPARATE FROM WHAT WE DO, SOME OF IT WILL START ON ITS OWN AND APART FROM US WITH THE ACCOUNT OF WATCHING TO SEE WHAT WE DO. WHEN WE MEET IN TWO WEEKS, I HOPE THE JUDGE IS FEELING WELL AND WE CAN ALL TRY TO BE THERE AND I WOULD BE PREPARED IF SOMEBODY MAKES A MOTION THAT WOULD YOU SAY IT IS 24 OR 27 FOR A BILLION?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: 27. >> SO YOU WOULD ADD ANOTHER 30

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PER AVERAGE HOMEOWNER. IS MY SENSE RIGHT? AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO DECIDE, AND I HOPE IT IS 5-0.

I CHANGED HOW I WAS GOING TO VOTE AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY KEEPING THEIR COLLAR DRY SO TO SPEAK.

YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION AND I CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT IT IS ONE OF THOSE DEALS WHERE YOU GENERALLY DON'T DECIDE UNTIL YOU HAVE TO DECIDE. HOPE WILY -- HOPEFULLY IT IS 5-0 I CAN SAY THAT MUCH PUBLICLY SINCE IT IS ON THE AGENDA,

RIGHT? >> AGAIN, I'M GLAD THAT WE GOT TO THIS POINT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES BECAUSE WE NEED THIS BOND. THE WORK CANNOT STOP AND WE NEED TO START IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET SOME MOVEMENT BEFORE INFLATION REALLY CATCHES ON.

WAITING UNTIL NEXT YEAR IS CONCERNING.

I WILL BEEA RDY TO MAKE A MOTION ATHE T NEXT MEETING.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: COMMISSIONER RAMSEY.

>> TOM RAMSEY: AS I INDICATED AND K INOW COMMISSIONERLL EIS HAS MANY YEARSF OEXPERIENCE WITH BONDSS IUES.

MY WORKIT WH 50 CITIES AND0 2 COUNTIES INHE TTA STE HASAU TGHT ME A FEW THINGS. ONE, WE ARE DOING B AOND ISSUE SOE WHAVEO TLISTEN. LISTENINGES TAK A LITTLE TIME.

I AM NOTKI TALNG ABOUT A LOT OF TIME.

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I HAVEUD 202 MS P IN MYRECINCT. I SUSPECT THE CITYUS OF HOTON IS THE BIGGESTIN CITY THEN REGIO THAT WOULD LIKERT TO PANER.

BUT K THOSEINDSST OF LIENING ANO MMUNICATION T TAKESIME.EN WH YOU THINK YOUOP HAVE PRERLYMM TONICATED WHAT YOU NEED COMMUNICATE, THEN YOU NEED GET OUT THERE AND SELLD IT ANBE SURE C THAT WEERTAINLY DO THE SUPPORT OFMU THE COMNITY FOR ASU BOND ISE.D ANLISTEN TORL ME CLEAY.E THWORST THING WE COULD EVER DO H ISAVE IS ASU BOND ISE AND IT FAIL. E MYXPERIENCE TAUGHT ME THAT'S ABOUT AR TWO-YEAPROCESS SO YOU WILL HAVED TO SPEN-- IF ITS, FAIL EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLEYO WHY U HAD AE BOND ISSUAND IT FAILEDN AND THESPEND ANOTHER YEARTO TRYING SELL IT.

MY ISSUE IS NOT A BOND.RE I AGE THATED NOBODY NES MORES I DO.AN AS I SAID LASTI MEETING, DON'T THISWHY S WE DIDN'TTART CONVERSATION A YEAR AGO IN TERMS

OFT PUTTING ION THE TABLE>>. ADRIAN GARCIA: WE DID.OM

>> T RAMSEY: AND HAVINGSI DISCUSONS ON BOND.

AS ID UNDERSTAN,GH NO ONE BROUTP BONDS TO ME., I SAID WELL,BE 2022 WOULD PUSHING Y IT.

IFOU WANTUT TO TALK ABO A BOND ISSUEM IN 2023, I'IN.K I THINIT ISE RUSHED IF WCALL I A BONDSSUE AT THEME NEXT ETING.EA THAT MNS THE BOND ISSUE HAS TO BECO CALLED THE SEND WEEK IN AUGUST THAT GIVES US OCTOBER. E, WE STARTARLY VOTING INLE THE MIDD OF OCTOBER. L YOU HAVEESS THAN A MONTHLF AND A HA OF TRYINGE. TO COMMUNICAT YOU A HAVEN'T SPENT LOT OFT TIE OUTHERE COUNTY WIDE TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT JUST RIGHT.IT WHETHER IS RELATED OR ROAD RELATED, IAK THK

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IT TES TIME.RS IT APPEA TO ME THAT IT R WOULD BE AUSHED PROCESS TO DO ANYTHING IN A 2022.

>>DRIAN GARCIA: MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD? WHEN DIDIO I START THE MOTN ONND PLANNING A RESEARCH ONHE DOING

ANOTR BOND? >>T DECEMBER OF LASYEAR.N

>> ADRIAGARCIA: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE SOONER.CK

>> R. JA CAGLE: YOU MAY PROCEED.EL

>> RODNEY LIS: WE MENTIONED LAST GOY AROUND IF SOMEBOD P WAS GOING TOULL THE TIMETABLEEY FOR THE HARV T PACKAGE, JUST OFFHE TOP OF MY HEAD I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBERS AND I THINK IT WALESS TIME THAN THIS ONE. DID YOU OR, SOMEONE PULL THAT

MR. BERRY? >> LET ME GET IT REAL QUICK.

HAVE I IT IN MY R NOTES. >>ODNEY ELLIS: COMMISSIONERW CAGLE, I KNOWEOU TALK I HAD ABT IT. B YOUR MEMORY ISETTER THAN MINE. IT WAS CLEARLY HAVE HERE.GUHAN WE THAT WAS AN AUST ELECTION.

AT SOME POINT IF WE DIED --TO IF WE DECIDE PUTTH SOMETHING ON E BALLOT, IT WOULD NOT BE AS YOU -- US.OP WE JUST LET PELE KNOW WHAT IS N IT.

WE CANNOT GET INVOLVED WITHN PUBLIC DOLLARS ITERMS OF ADVOCACY. SEPARATE EFFORT.

IE KNOW THIS IS MORE TIMAND WE HAD TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE GOVERNOR AND SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS.

>> IE WAS GOING TO ASK SINCLE COMMISSIONER CAG AND YOURSELF WERELL THERE, COMMISSIONER EIS, HOW FAST DID THE HARVEY BOND GEN

DECIDED AND ACTED . I >> RODNEY ELLIS: THINK WE DECIDED IN JULY. I DON'T THINK IT WAS JUNE.

I THINK IT WAS A JULY OR AUGUST. I NEED TO TURN THE LIGHTS ON IN

THIS BUILDING.: >> R. JACK CAGLETHE VOTE WAS

ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF HARVEY. A >> RODNEY ELLIS:UGUST 14 OR

SO?WH >> ADRIAN GARCIA: EN DID THEON

BOARD TALK ABOUT A BD?WE >> R. JACK CAGLE: HAD 23 WATER SHED MEETINGS SO I KNOW THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF PUBLIC

ENGAGEMENT. >> SOMEBODY AT FLOOD CONTROL --E MIGHTEN IS AROUND H REMEMBER.

I WANT TO SAY HE DID THAT, CACTUS, IN LIKE 30 DAYS.

>> THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER. >> IST CAN'T REMEMBER.

I JU KNOWRK THAT WE WERE ALL WOING HARD TO ATTENDF BECAUSE I THINK HALF OTHE WATER SHED RAN THROUGH THE THEN EXISTING PRECINCT 4 IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER, AND I MADE EACH OF THOSE -- I MADE HALF OF THE WATER SHED MEETINGS.

>> >> THERE WERE WATER SHED MEETINGS ON CLEARLY DEFINED PROJECTS, BUT IT TOOK A BIT OF TIME TO GET TO THE CLEARLY DEFINED PROJECTS.

THAT'S WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER. IF Y'ALL HAD BEEN HAVING LISTENING PROJECTS AND PUBLIC MEETINGS TO DISCUSS THE BOND ISSUE COMING UP IN 2022, WELL I HAVEN'T.

IF I MISSED THES: BOAT -- >> RODNEY ELLI I HAVEN'T HAD ANY, BUT I AM DOING A LOT OF LISTENING.

ON A REGULAR BASIS I AM LISTENING TO THEM AND I THINK WE ALL NEW. TO BE HONEST ITH HAVEN'T VETTED THAT WITH E PRECINCT. AND CERTAINLY WHAT HAPPENS IN PRECINCT THREE SHOULD COMPLEMENT WHAT HAPPENS INTH TWO, ONE AND FOUR. ERE NEEDS TO BELD THOSE CONVERSATIONS, I WOU THINK IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A

SUCCESSFUL BOND PROJECT.CT >> RODNEY ELLIS: I RESPE THAT.

I WANT TO SAY, LET US KNOW. I WILL MAKE A MOTION AND IF IT GOES DOWN THERE ARE NO HARD FEELINGS.

I FEEL STRONG ABOUT THE NEED AND I FEEL LIKE THERE IS AMPLE TIME

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TO GET INPUT. THE DEADLINE FOR MAKING CHANGESH

-- >> ADRIAN GARCIA: WEAVE THELD COUNTY ENGINEER HERE AND I WOU LIKE TO ASK HIM WALK THROUGH THIS. IF NOT FOR THE BOND DO WE HAVE

PROJECTS THAT WOULD NOT STOP? >> IN TERMS OF THE ITEMS, IT WAS PUBLISHED 11 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION.

SO IT WAS WITHIN FULL LIST THAT IT WAS DEVELOPED AND THE ELECTION WAS ON AUGUST 25TH. I THINK IT IS CORRECT THAT'S GOING FROM THE ORDER OF PROGRAMMING THE FUNDS.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: SO THAT IS TWO MONTHS MORE? IT ENDS ON NOVEMBER 2ND, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: ENGINEER?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. DO YOU WANT ME TO WALK THROUGH

THE PROGRAM? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: EXACTLY.

>> THE PROPOSED PROGRAM IS BROKEN DOWN AS YOU JUST MENTIONED EARLIER, 100 MILLION ON THE PROGRAM.

200 MILLION FOR DRAINAGE. 50 MILLION FOR VISION ZERO.

200 MILLION FOR PARKS PROGRAM. I SUSPECT THERE IS A COLLABORATION WITH FLOOD CONTROL TO IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC

PROJECTS. >> YES, SIR.

DO WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION? MAYBE SLIDE NUMBER 8.

YES, THIS ONE. THE COUNTY HAS 66 MILES OF ROAD AND 588 ARE 2019 TO 2020. THAT NEEDS IMMEDIATE ASSESSMENT WE HAVE 190 MILES OF ROAD AND THAT MEANS TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION.

IF YOU ADD IT UP, IT IS ANOTHER BILLION DOLLARS OF NEEDS.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: GO AHEAD. I WILL ASK YOU A QUESTION WHEN

YOU FINISH. >> YES, SIR.

ALSO WE HAVE DONE A LEVEL OF ANALYSIS FROM ALL OF OUR PLAN AS PART OF THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT WAS ON GOING. 260 MILES AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT ROADWAY WIDENING AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS ON

THOSE PROJECTS. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I WOULD SUSPECT THAT E AND F ARE NOT THAT GOOD.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. IN GENERAL THEY CAN PROVIDE SOME KIND OF MAINTENANCE TO THE TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: WE PASSED ZERO, AND WAS THAT A YEAR AGO, A

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COUPLE KWRAO*EG -- A COUPLE YEARS AGO?

>> IN 2014 THEY ADOPTED CODE ZERO.

>> I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT THE RESOLUTIONS, BUT DID WE PASS A

RESOLUTION WITH NO MONEY? >> THAT IS CORRECT,

COMMISSIONER. >> I DID ONE OF THE FIRST

PROJECTS ON VISION ZERO. >> CAN WE GO TO SLIDE NUMBER 12? COMMISSIONER, PART OF THE EFFORT WE DID ON THE VISION 0 INITIATIVE, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED HIGH ENGINEERING NETWORK IN THE COUNTY BASED ON THE STUDY AND THERE ARE IS 150 MILES OF ROADWAY AND WE HAVE 430 FATALITIES AND IN TERMS OF ASSESSMENT WE CAN PUT THIS ASH TRAEB NUMBER OF 50 MILLION AND I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IT CAN GO AND IT IS A LINE OF SIGHT ON THAT

METRIC. >> IN ADDITION TO WHAT COMMISSIONER GARCIA DID, ALL OF MY STREETS ARE COMPLETE STREETS.

WE ALWAYS DID PROJECTS IN OTHER CITIES.

>> AND IN TERMS OF THE VISION 0ERO, IF YOU COULD -- 0, IF YOU CAN TAKE A PORTION OF THAT MONEY AND LOOK AT THE KING WOOD AREA, APPARENTLY THERE ARE CURBS THAT CHALLENGE PWHRAOEUS KHR*EUS -- BICYCLISTS EVERY SO OFRPB. THAT'S FROM -- EVERY SO OFTEN.

THAT'S FROM MY CHIEF OF STAFF. >> IT IS INTERESTING.

WE PASSED A RESOLUTION TWO*E YEARS AGO WITH A LOT OF FANFARE.

OTHER THAN WHAT A COMMISSIONER IS DOING WITH THEIR MONEY, WE HAVEN'T PUT A DIME OF NEW MONEY ON IT.

>> CORRECT. >> TOM RAMSEY: LET ME COMMENT ON THAT. I'M LIKE COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

I DON'T JUST LOOK AT A REPORT AND SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING. THE VISION 0ERO -- THE VISION 0 SLIDE I AM LOOKING AT IS IDENTIFIED IN PRE -- PRECINCT 3.

EVERY PROJECT WE SPEND ON IS WITH AN EYE TO MAKING THAT ROAD AND THAT CORRIDOR AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.

I THINK CERTAINLY DID YOU VISIT WITH ANY -- WITH PRECINCT 3 STAFF IN COMING UP WITH THESE NUMBERS?

>> THIS WAS DOWN TO A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY.

>> DID YOU SPEND TIME WITH RANDY AND OUR STAFF THERE?

>> NOT MYSELF, COMMISSIONER. THE STUDY WAS COMPLETED BEFORE.

>> AGAIN, YOU PULLED FROM THE STUDY AND YOU PULLED FROM THE

STUDY TO GENERATE THIS? >> YES, SIR.

>> AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE 50 MILLION CAME OUT OF THE

STUDY? >> IT DIDN'T COME FROM THE STUDY, THE 50 MILLION. THE NUMBERS WE NEED TO ELIMINATE THIS COULD BE MUCH LARGER THAN THIS.

THIS IS PART OF WHAT THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT HAS TO INVEST.

>> I WOULD SAY ON THE ROAD AND THEY SAID THIS IS PRETTY GOOD, WELL I AM SAYING IT IS PROBABLY WORSE THAN YOU SAY WE ARE GOING THROUGH AND LOOKING AT ARE SIGNIFICANT.

ARE THESE NUMBERS -- A BIGGER PARTNERSHIP IS WHAT COMMISSIONER ELLIS REPRESENTED AS WITH THE CITY OF HOUSTON.

DOES YOURS ENVISION -- I AM LOOKING AT A LOT OF UNINCORPORATED AREAS. THERE IS A BIG GAP THERE.

IS THERE A REASON YOU ARE -- IT IS NOT ON THE COUNTY ROAD BLOG.

IS THAT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT LOOKED AT?

>> WE ARE IN A CLOSE COORDINATION AND THEY HAVE THEIR

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OWN STUDY THAT'S BEEN DONE. SO IF THEY DECIDE TO IDENTIFY,

THEY CAN DO THAT. >> THAT'S NOT SHOWING THE STAFF.

>> THIS 150 MILES, NO. THIS IS IN ONE PART OF THE COUNTY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK, COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND MEMBERS OF THE COURT TO SLIDE NUMBER -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD DRAINAGE PROGRAM AND THAT IS SLIDE NUMBER 9. THAT IS $200 MILLION COMMISSION IS PART OF THE PROPOSAL THAT IS PROPOSED FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD DRAIN -- DRAINAGE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE THE 600 SOMETHING MILLION IMPROVEMENT FOR FLOOD CONTROL DRAIN PROGRAM FOR SUBDIVISION DRAINAGE PROGRAM. IN TERMS OF THE BENEFIT WE ARE TAKING OUT ALMOST 4,000 PLUS IN STRUCTURE OUT OF PLANNING AND IT IS HELPING APPROXIMATELY 200,000 PEOPLE.

THE NEEDS ARE BIGGER, WE KNOW AND THE THIRD PROCESS WAS TO CONTINUE THIS EFFORT ONCE THIS MONEY IS DEPLETED.

THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF 2024 TO MOVE FORWARD. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF HOMES THAT WERE FLATTENED BECAUSE OF HARVEY AND MANY ARE OUTSIDE THE FLOOD PLAIN. MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEED SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE. THERE WAS A THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THIS 200 MILLION. THAT'S NOT THE TOTAL NEED.

THAT'S JUST A PROPOSAL FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: AND IF I COULD , I WANT TO FIRST THANK YOU. DURING THE PEAK OF THE PANDEMIC YOU HELPED US HIT A LINEAR TO 200 FEET OF DRAINAGE.

WE HAD DONE 400,000 IN PRECINCT TWO, BUT YET IN THE PEAK OF THE PANDEMIC THIS PROGRAM HIT 1,000,00200,000 AND WE HAVE HIT A MILLION AND 200,000 THE YEAR AFTER AND ON TRACK TO HIT IT AGAIN. IT IS NOT COINCIDENTAL THAT SINCE WE HAVE DONE THAT WE HAVE HAD ZERO STRUCTURES REPORTED WITH FLOOD DAMAGE. I MAY CHALLENGE YOU WITH CHANGING UP THE NUMBERS, BUT THIS IS A VERY EFFECTIVE PIECE

OF EQUIPMENT. >> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? THIS IS ANOTHER PART OF THE PROGRAM WE ADDED TO CONSIDER THE ROADWAY. IT IS A STUDY THAT SAYS IF YOU INVEST A DOLLAR, YOU MAY SAVE $6 TO $10 IF IT IS FAILED.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOES NOT DETERIORATE.

AND WE CAN SAVE MONEY DOWN THE ROAD.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE NEXT SLIDE IS FOR MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION. WE KNOW THAT 39% OF THE ROADWAY HAS A SIDEWALK THAT IS NOT CONSIDERING THE CONDITION OF THE SIDEWALKS AND THE FOUNDATION IS NOT GOOD AS WELL.

THE OBJECTIVE IS TO GIVE US ANOTHER MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.

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WE ARE WALKING ON -- WE HAVE DONE A STUDY ON OUR ADA RAMP.

WE FOUND THE ESTIMATE FROM LAST YEAR IS ALMOST $10 MILLION OF IMPROVEMENT NEEDED TO REHABILITATE THE AREA RAMP.

THIS IS TO SUPPORT THOSE THAT ARE FLEXIBLE AND THE NUMBER IS WHAT WE WANTED TO PUT A NUMBER IN THIS PROGRAM.

>> AND THIS COULD BE USED FOR THOSE CENTER POINT EASE PHEPBTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE -- EASEMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT

NATURE. >> NO, COMMISSIONER.

WE CAN PUSH IT TO THE PARKS PROGRAM.

THIS IS MORE ALONG THE STREAKS. I WANT TO ADVOCATE.

>> WE DID DISCUSS -- OKAY. LAST SLIDE.

THIS IS $200 MILLION REALLOCATING AND PROPOSING THE PARK BOND. THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS RECOMMEND YOU NEED 10-ACRES OF PARK PARKLAND -- PARK LAND PER 1,000 RESIDENTS. WE HAVE HALF OF IT OR LESS.

WE HAVE 23,000 ACRES COMPARED TO THE 47,000 ACRES WE NEED [INAUDIBLE] 3,020 RESIDENTS. AND THAT MEANS WE WOULD NEED 3,000 PLUS PARKS. WE HAVEN'T DONE THE STUDY OF THE ACCESS TO THE PARK POPULATION, BUT IT COULD ALSO SAY THAT WE -- A LOT OF FOLKS MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO PARK WITHIN FIVE MILES THAT'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS PART OF THE PACKAGE.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MY -- THE -- MOST OF MY PRECINCT, THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF MY PRECINCT FOR THE MOST PART WE HAVE SPENT OUR TIME IN OFFICE. WE HAVE DEVELOPED PLANS FOR ALL OF OUR UNINCORPORATED AREAS. WE HAVE DONE OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.

AND WE HAVE DONE THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS MASTER PLAN.

I DO RESPECT WHAT COMMISSIONER RAMSEY IS SAYING ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION AND LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC.

WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE BECAUSE YOU HAVE DONE BOND ELECTION IN THE PREVIOUS LIVES, WITH THAT COMMUNICATION AND YOU CAN

CONSTRUCT SOME OF THE PROJECTS. >> DEFINITELY, COMMISSIONER.

SOME OF THOSE STARTED HAVE BEEN PROFOUND IN PRECINCT TWO.

IT WAS DONE THROUGH MULTIPLE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND WHATNOT, BUT THERE WILL BE A DISCUSSION REGARDING PRIORITIZATION.

WHAT YOU FIND THE NEED EACH MONTH IS THE WISH LIST OF THE --

OF WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST FOR ME THAT I HAVE DONE THE PROCESS OF LISTING AND COMMUNICATING AND HEARING WHAT THE COMMUNITIES NEEDS AND DESIRES AND PRIORITIES ARE.

WE DID SET PRIORITIES FOR THE FEEDBACK WE ARE GETTING IN TERMS OF WHAT FOLKS ARE LOOKING FOR IN THEIR PLANS -- I MEAN IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. SO WE HAVE DONE SOME DEGREE OF PRIORITIZATION IN THAT REGARD. BUT AT LEAST IT HELPS ME SAY FOR

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THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU HELP ME PASS THIS BOND ELECTION AND SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED CAN BE

FUNDED. >> THAT'S RIGHT, COMMISSIONER.

IF I RECALL THE STUDY MENTIONED, THE PARTS ARE THE MASTER PLAN STUDY AND THAT HAS SHORT-TERM LONG-RANGE AND FUTURE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED. YES.

>> GOOD DEAL, THANK YOU. >> TOM RAMSEY: WE COMPLETED, BEFORE THE LINES WERE CHANGED, A MASTER PLAN FOR WHAT I WOULD CALL THE OLD PRECINCT 3 AND NOW IN OUR PARKS.

AND NOW WE HAVE INITIATED ONE IN THE NEW PRECINCT.

THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LIST OF PROJECTS.

THERE IS NO QUESTION WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO PEOPLE.

YOU JUST SAY WITH A TW*EUPG KEL IN -- TWIKLE IN -- TWIKLE IN YOUR EYE WE WILL FIND THE RIGHT PEOPLE SUPPORTING IT.

ARE YOU SAYING WE BE GENERIC IN THE BOND ISSUE? ARE YOU SAYING WE SHOULD LIST PROJECT SPECIFICS BASED ON ALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS THROUGH, AND WE HAVE HAD AS MANY AS ANYBODY IN PRECINCT 3? WHICH IS IT?

>> COMMISSIONER, YOU CAN GO BOTH WAYS.

YOU CAN LIST PROJECTS OUT IF YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED PROJECTS OR IF THIS COURT FEELS LIKE, HEY, WE ARE NOT THERE YET AND IT WILL TAKE LONGER TO IDENTIFY THE PROJECT FROM THE PRECINCT, THEN MAYBE THE OTHER OPTION IS WHAT WE DID IN THE LAST BOND ELECTION. IF YOU HAVE THE PROJECT WE CAN

PRIORITIZE. >> TOM RAMSEY: JUST TRUST US.

JUST TRUST US IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WILL DO OR NOT DO.

>> COMMISSIONER, IT IS NOT ALL OR NOTHING EITHER.

OUR RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO ALLOCATE EVERY DOLLAR OF THE BOND PACKAGE TO A SPECIFIC PROJECT.

IF THIS HAS TO LAST SIX TO EIGHT YEARS COSTS ARE CHANGING AND NEEDS CHANGE. WE CERTAINLY COULD IDENTIFY A PARTIAL LIST OF PROJECTS, AND I WOULD SAY AS WE PUT THIS TOGETHER WOULD BE HAPPY TO VISIT WITH ANY PRECINCT SO THAT ANY -- IF I THINK ABOUT THIS -- IF I WERE A VOTER COMING IN AND MAKING A DECISION, I WOULD HAVE A LIST OF PROGRAMS THAT SAYS WE WILL KEEP YOU SAFE FROM FLOODING AND WE WILL REDUCE -- AND HAO*EH

LIST. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU FOR AT. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THAT WAS PART OF THE SHORT COMINGS IN THE FLOOD BOND PACKAGE. I REPEATEDLY IDENTIFIED AND TALKED ABOUT HOW WE ARE SPENDING A TON OF MONEY IN PLACE THAT'S -- PLACES THAT DON'T SAVE AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF STRUCTURES. I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT AND I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO ALLOW OURSELVES TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AT LEAST SOME GUIDING PRINCIPALS.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: COMMISSIONER ELLIS?

RO*D -- >> RODNEY ELLIS: I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU, MR. BERRY TO GO BACK TO THE EXTENT THAT WE MAY NOT KEEP VERY GOOD RECORDS. YOU CAN CALL SOME OF THE OLD TIMERS AROUND IF THEY WILL TALK. WE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTY REGARDLESS OF IF THERE IS A D OR AN R BY OUR NAME, AND SEE WHAT THE TIMETABLE HAS BEEN IN THE PAST TO COMPARE IT TO OTHER GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ISSUES AS OPPOSED TO FLOOD BOND PACKAGES. I THINK YOU WILL FIND IT HAS BEEN ON THE SHORTER FUSE. I CAN'T RECALL MY PREDECESSOR TALKING ABOUT IT. [INAUDIBLE] ASTRODOME AND PACKAGE CAME UP AND THE TIMETABLE IS PRETTY SHORT AND ASSUMPTIONS WERE WRONG. THEY ASSUME THE JAIL PROCESS WAS GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM AND THE ASTRODOME WOULD NOT.

I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO PROCEED UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WILL PROBABLY VOTE NEXT COURT ON SOMETHING, EVEN IF IT FAILS.

AND LOOK AT A ROBUST ENGAGEMENT PROJECT AND MAYBE JUST DECIDE NOT TO TAKE A POSITION ON IT. EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT THEY MAY NOT COME PAIN FOR IT.

THERE IS MORE TIME THAN WE HAD WITH HARVEY.

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MY ONLY EXPERIENCE WITH THE COUNTY WAS HARVEY AND WE ALL ROLLED OUR SLEEVES UP AND IT WAS VERY QUICK.

IT IS MUCH QUICKER. AT LEAST BY TWO MONTHS.

AT LEAST AS AN ADDITIONAL OF 60-DAYS.

BUT MAP THAT OUT AND AS I SAID, I WOULD BE PREPARED.

I THINK WE HAVE TO PRETTY MUCH DECIDE AT THIS NEXT COURT OR WHETHER IT BE TWO COURTS LATER --

>> SO THERE IS A REGULAR MEETING JULY 19TH AND THEN THERE IS ONE ON AUGUST 2ND. IN ORDER TO ADOPT THE ELECTION WOULD BE BETWEEN AUGUST 12TH AND 22ND.

IDEALLY BY NEXT COURT, THE ABSOLUTE LATEST IS AUGUST 2ND, WE COULD HAVE MARCHING ORDERS OF HERE IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

HERE ARE THE PROGRAMS WE WANT TO DO AND HERE IS THE AMOUNT.

IF WE WANT TO LIST SOME SPECIFIC PROJECTS, HERE THEY ARE.

THAT'S A MOTION TO GET EVERYTHING READY FOR A FORMAL ADOPTION ON AUGUST 2ND THROUGH -- EXCUSE ME, AUGUST 12TH

THROUGH THE SECOND. >> RODNEY ELLIS: AT THE LATEST WE CAN SCHEDULE COURT OR AUGUST 12TH AS A COURT DATE?

>> EXCUSE ME. AUGUST 2ND IS THE REGULAR MEETING. JULY TPHEUFR -- JULY 19TH AND AUGUST 2ND. WE WILL PROCEED ON GETTING SOMETHING THAT IS READY FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE NEXT COURT AND SEE. WE WILL HAVE ONE COURT RESERVED.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: THEN I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO LET'S JUST SEE WHAT HAPPENS. I'M COMMITTED TO TRYING.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH. >> R. JACK CAGLE: AS WE MOVE TO THE NEXT SUBJECT I ASK BUDGET MANAGEMENT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE IMPACTS OF -- IF ANY, OF PHOUFP -- OF HOW MUCH WE MAY BE ASKED TO DO THE TUNNEL PROJECT IN TERMS OF THE BOND ISSUE AND THE IMPACT OF THAT AND WHETHER THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE ROLLED INTO THAT PROJECT. AND GO FOR THAT AT THE SAME TIME. IT COULD BE WE MAKE A DECISION, ALL OR SOME -- YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?

IT DEPENDS ON THE SUPPORT. >> WE CAN GET BACK TO THE COASTAL BARRIER AND THEY HAVE AN INDEPENDENT TAX AUTHORITY THAT'S THERE. AND THERE MAY BE A REQUEST OF THE COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE AS A LOCAL SPONSOR IN THE COASTAL BARRIER PROJECTS. AS WE LOOK AT ROLLING OUT -- I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A SMALLER SECTION, BUT WE MAY BE CALLED UPON TO GO TO THE PUBLIC WITH THESE BIG PROJECTS WITH REGARD TO THE COASTAL BARRIER AND WITH REGARD TO THE TUNNELS.

AND THE QUESTION WOULD BE WHEN IS THE BEST TIME -- I MEAN, DO WE WANT TO FIRE OUR POWDER OFF NOW, OR MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT IN THE OTHER PROJECTS? I WANT YOU TO ANALYZE THAT AS YOU GO FORWARD. MY SUPPORT, I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE I WOULD BE CLEAR IN THIS THAT WE DO NOT DO ANYTHING TO JEOPARDIZE THE TUNNELS PROJECT THAT ARE A VERY SIGNIFICANT PROJECT THAT WOULD BE A GAME CHANGER FOR OUR REGION.

WE JUST HONORED COLONEL VAIL FOR HIS EFFORTS.

AND I THINK IT STARTED IN PRECINCT 1 AND NOW IT IS IF PRECINCT 2, THE WORK ON CHANGING THE ROI CRITERIA WITH RECORD TO THE CORE OF ENGINEERS. IT WILL ENABLE US TO HAVE THAT CHANGE THE MODEL OF HOW IT APPROACHES THOSE THINGS.

I DON'T NEED A WHOLE LOT FROM YOU NOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO THAT AND GET BACK TO US BEFORE THE NEXT TIME

SOMETHING COMES ON THE AGENDA. >> JUST TO CONFIRM, YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE PROJECTED COST OF THE PROJECTS AND WHAT OUR POTENTIAL MATCH WOULD BE UNDER THE CURRENT FEDERAL GUIDELINES AND WHAT OUR POTENTIAL LEVY WOULD BE?

>> YES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ITEM NUMBER 140 I THINK COMMISSIONER GARCIA YOU HAD COMMENTS YOU WANTED TO MAKE ON 140?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: 140, YES. I WILL BEGIN WITH THE FACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE TO CLIENTS WITH ABOUF

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700. >> EXCUSE ME?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: HE BROKE QUORUM.

BAILIFF, BRING HIM BACK. BRING HIM BACK, BAILIFF.

HANDCUFF! >> R. JACK CAGLE: I THINK WE VOTED ON IT. HAVE WE VOTED ON THIS, 140?

>> NO. YOU HAVE IT LISTERRED -- LISTED

AS A DISCUSSION ITEM. >> R. JACK CAGLE: WE DO NEED TO

WAIT FOR THE QUORUM. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THAT RASCAL.

THAT WACKY WABBIT. >> COMMISSIONER CAGLE --

>> MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: YES. WAS SOMEONE CALLING MY NAME?

>> YES, COMMISSIONER, WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER WHO CALLED US BACK AFTER WE MOVED ON. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANT TO

HEAR FROM HIM? >> R. JACK CAGLE: DO WE NEED TO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT TO HEAR THE SPEAKER?

>> WHICH ITEM IS IT? >> HE'S SPEAKING ON ITEM 295

UNDER SUPPLEMENTAL. >> WE ALREADY VOTED ON IT.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: WE VOTED ON THAT?

>> NO. >> NO.

WE SHOULD WAIT FOR THE QUORUM ON THAT IF IT IS AN AGENDA ITEM.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: WE WILL WAIT FOR THE QUORUM ON THAT.

I THINK WE ALREADY VOTED -- >> THE QUORUM HAS RETURNED, SIR.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THERE WE ARE. WE HAD TO WAIT FOR YOU SO WE HAD

A QUORUM. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THE BAILIFFS ARE SEARCHING FOR YOU. ON THIS ITEM I WANT TO SAY WE ARE FACING A 40-YEAR HIGH INFLATION AND THERE IS A LOT OF HARD-WORKING FOLKS THAT LIVE IN PRECINCT 2.

I HAVE AMONG THE HARDEST WORKING WITH THE LOWEST TO MEDIUM INCOME IN ALL OF HARRIS COUNTY. AND JUST YESTERDAY A REPORT FROM THE LENDING CLUB CAME OUT NOTING THAT AS OF MAY OF THIS YEAR OVER HALF OF AMERICANS, 58%, ARE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.

WHILE I WISH THE COUNTY COULD RELY ON FOLKS LIKE OUR STATE FOLKS BECAUSE LAST WINTER IT SHOWS US THAT SOMETIMES WE NEED TO HAVE MORE HELP, I AM HAPPY TO VOTE ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE IT WILL MEAN THAT ANY HARD-WORKING FAMILY IN PRECINCT 2 IN HARRIS COUNTY THAT ARE DIRECT ENERGY CUSTOMERS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING ENERGY EMERGENCY OR CRISIS CAN APPLY FOR UP TO 700 IN ASSISTANCE IN ANY CALENDAR YEAR TO GET THE RELIEF THAT THEY NEED AND I WILL JUST SAY THAT THIS IS IMMENSELY CRITICAL AND I WANT TO IMPLORE COMMUNITY SERVICES TO -- THIS ITEM WILL BE PASSED, BUT LET'S NOT WAIT AND I HOPE WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT OUR CUSTOMER SERVICES PROCESSES AND ENROLLMENT PROCESSES SO THAT THIS GOES AS SMOOTHLY AS POSSIBLE AND PEOPLE CAN GET THE HELP WHILE THEY NEED IT AND NOT AFTER THE FACT.

I WILL SIMPLY SAY THAT THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN -- THAT IS GOING TO HELP KEEP THE LIGHTS ON FOR PEOPLE WITH EMERGENCY MEDICAL DEVICES AND THE LIKE.

AND JUST FOR FAMILIES IN GENERAL.

I WOULD MAKE A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE PROGRAM NAME FROM NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR PROGRAM TO NEIGHBOR NUMBER TWO PROGRAM.

WITH THAT I MOVE THE ITEM. >> R. JACK CAGLE: WE WILL HOLD THESE ITEMS SO THE JUDGE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON 140? SEEING NONE, MY PRESUMPTION IS THIS WILL BE A FAN HAVE YOUS VOTE -- UNANIMOUS VOTE, BUT WE WILL HOLD THESE UNTIL THE JUDGE CAN APPEAR FOR THE BLOCK VOTE. 141 HELD BY SOMEONE FOR

ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I HELD THAT AS WELL. MR. BERRY, I SAW THE PORT CHART IN HUMAN RESOURCES AND A GREAT DEAL HAS CHANGED.

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I DID NOT SEE SHANE CARAZOL AND THIS IS TO DESIGNATE SOMEONE AS A CIVIL RIGHTS OFFICER WHICH I UNDERSTAND AND I THINK WE NEED.

FOR THIS ITEM SPECIFICALLY, SHOULDN'T THE CIVIL RIGHTS OFFICER BE SOMEONE OUT OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE?

>> KPWHEUGSER, THIS IS -- COMMISSIONER THIS IS SLIGHTLY A MISS STYLED NAME. THE INDIVIDUAL WORKS REALLY AS A COMPLIANCE OFFICER AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, WHAT WE NORMALLY DO IS IT IS ALWAYS SOMEONE IN HR TRADITIONALLY IN OTHER COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES IT IS SOMEONE IN THE HR AND BUDGET OFFICE THAT SERVES THAT ROLE. THEY WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR OFFICE, BUT IT IS SOMEONE FROM HR.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: IS IT ONLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF GRANT APPLICATIONS AND WE HAVE TO DESIGNATE A CIVIL RIGHTS

OFFICER? >> THAT'S RIGHT.

THERE IS AN ENTIRE PROCESS AROUND TITLE 6 YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW AND THIS PERSON SERVES IN THAT ROLE, THE ADD --

ADMINISTRATIVE ROLE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THIS PERSON WON'T HAVE ANY ROLE IN COUNTY ATTORNEY ISSUES?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. IT IS INDEPENDENT FROM THE

SYSTEM WE HAVE INTERNAL. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: OKAY.

SO I RECOGNIZE THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE CHANGING THE NAME OF THE PERSON IN THIS ITEM?

>> THE JUDGE READ THAT OUT AS A CORRECTION.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: I WOULD LIKE TO VISIT WITH YOU.

THE CHARGE THAT I SAW WAS JUST VERY IMPRESSIVE.

I DIDN'T SNOW -- I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE ALL THESE PEOPLE CAME FROM. AND AS I HAVE HISTORICALLY AS WE HAVE LEANED ON SHANE AND I DIDN'T SEE HIS NAME ON THE CHART SO I DIDN'T SEE WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT.

>> TO BE CLEAR, HE IS THE HEAD OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND RISK MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE HUMAN RESOURCES STILL REPORTS UP

TO -- HAPPY TO VISIT. >> WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT

OFFLINE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I MOVE ON THIS

ITEM. >> R. JACK CAGLE: WE WILL HOLD THAT FOR A VOTE LATER ON. AND WE ARE NOW ON 145 AND THIS

IS AN ITEM FROM PRECINCT 2. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I ALREADY

TALKED ABOUT IT SO MOVED. >> R. JACK CAGLE: 145 WILL BEHELD FOR A VOTE LATER ON. WE ARE NOW ON 193.

THIS IS PRECINCT 3'S DISCUSSION ITEM.

>> TOM RAMSEY: JUST A QUICK, WE ARE ABOUT TO SPEND $12 MILLION RENEW OL ON THE -- RENEWAL ON THE SENTINAL ELECTRONIC MONITORING SYSTEM. IT LOOKS LIKE THE INFORMATION I RECEIVED, WE ARE MONITORING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 3300 PEOPLE.

I THINK WE HAVE ONE PERSON PER EVERY 200.

THAT SEEMS LIKE AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE FOLKS ON THIS.

WE ARE RE-DOING THIS. BUT HAVE WE DONE ANYTHING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF WHO IS MONITORING THIS EQUIPMENT? THIS IS THE EQUIPMENT PORTION OF IT.

DO WE KNOW IF THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE? IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: COMMISSIONER, IF I COULD PIGGYBACK.

I JUST REMEMBER I HELD THIS ITEM AS WELL.

THE REASON I HELD IT WAS PRECISELY FOR THE COST OF THIS ITEM, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY TO WHAT YOU ARE POINTING OUT.

NATALIE HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO DISCOURAGE RANDOM APPLICATION OF THESE ELECTRONIC DEVICES.

THERE IS CURRENTLY NO ENFORCEMENT FOR VIOLATION UNTIL WE HEAR ABOUT THOSE PROBLEMS AFTER THE FACT.

NOW, I'VE CALLED FOR A MEETING WITH THERESA MAY, AND SHE HAS NOT -- SHE HAS CHOSEN NOT TO RESPOND TO THAT MEETING.

I HAVE CALLED FOR A MEETING WITH BOTH THERESA MAY AND JUDGE JOHNSON. THEY BOTH CHOSE NOT TO COME TO THAT MEETING. I KNOW THAT KELLY WORKED FOR THE PEOPLE AND IS HIRED BY THE PEOPLE, BUTTER RESAW IS -- BUT THERESA IS HIRED BY THE JUDGES AND THE STATE, I THINK.

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I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO VOTE ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT DIRECTION NATALIE IS GETTING, WHAT COOPERATION SHE IS GETTING BY THOSE TWO AND I AM CONCERNED THAT THIS IS A TON OF MONEY FOR A PROGRAM THAT WE OUGHT TO BE TALKING ABOUT AND ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM TO IT THAT IT

CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE. >> R. JACK CAGLE: ARE YOU REQUESTING WE HOLD THE ITEM AT THIS TIME?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: IS THERE ANY PROBLEMS WITHHOLDING IT?

>> I WOULD ASK DWIGHT, BUT NOT FROM MY SIDE.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: DWIGHT, ARE THERE ANY PROBLEMS WITHHOLDING

THIS ITEM? >> COMMISSIONER, I I DON'T THINK THERE IS AN ISSUE, BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK THE DATES AND CAN I

GET BACK TO YOU IN TWO MINUTES? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: SURE.

NATALIE, I CAN SEE YOU ON THE SCREEN.

ANY PROBLEMS WITHHOLDING THIS ITEM?

>> NO, COMMISSIONER. THAT'S FINE.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: HOPEFULLY, MAYBE THIS WILL CAUSE THE TWO

PARTIES TO MEET. >> DWIGHT, I THINK THE RENEWAL

DATE IS SEPTEMBER 1ST. >> THAT'S PERFECT.

WE CAN HOLD IT. >> THAT'S WHY I PULLED IT.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: FOR THE RECORD 93 WILL BE NO ACTION.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 212 WHICH IS PULLED FROM DISCUSSION BY

PRECINCT 3. >> TOM RAMSEY: THIS HAS TO DO WITH OUR NEW FACILITY OR THE FACILITY WE MOVED INTO, 1,111 BUILDING. WE ARE BRINGING ON AN ARCHITECT.

DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION RELATED TO WHAT THE ARCHITECT IS GOING TO BE DOING?

>> COMMISSIONER, WE CONTINUE HAVE A -- WE DON'T HAVE AN IDEA OF THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION. WHAT WE ARE DOING AT THIS TIME IS WALKING ON THE DESIGN AND PROGRAMMING ON THE DIVISIONS.

THE DEPARTMENT WILL BE THERE WITH FLOOD CONTROL AND UNIVERSAL SERVICE YOU CAN -- SERVICE, AND WE ARE NOW LOOKING AT PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. ONCE WE WORK WITH THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT WE WILL KNOW A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE ENTIRE SCOPE.

WE HAVE AN OVER ALL SCOPE. >> TOM RAMSEY: YOU AND I SHARE COMMON EXPERIENCES. BE SURE WE DON'T SPEND MORE THAN, I DON'T KNOW, BALLPARK OF 10 TO 20% AND FIGURING OUT WHAT ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO COST BECAUSE WE NEED PLENTY OF MONEY IN THERE TO DESIGN WHATEVER IT IS WE FIGURE OUT WE WILL NEED.

AND WHAT I HAVE SEEN SOMETIMES ON CONTRACTS IS YOU SPEND ALL YOUR MONEY JUST FIGURING OUT WHAT YOU ARE GONNA DO AND YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING. SO AS YOU LOOK AT THAT AND I KNOW JUST GETTING INTO IT, GIVE A PRETTY CLEAR DIRECTION TO THE FOLKS AND TO IDENTIFY QUICKLY WHAT IT IS WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE COST ESTIMATES. OBVIOUSLY COSTS GO UP NEARLY EVERY DAY AT THIS POINT, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF DOLLARS, HOPEFULLY TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE HOPE.

>> YES, SIR. WE ARE GETTING THE SELECTION PROCESS THAT IS ON GOING AND WE ARE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE.

WE HAVE COLLECTED THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THERE AND THE CHANCES WILL BE MINIMAL.

WE MINIMIZE AND TRY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN USE THE EXISTING OFFICE LOCATION. THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN JOBS OF THE PROGRAMMING PHASE WITH ARCHITECTS.

CAN WE FIT ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT AND WHICH FLOW FITS THE

DEPARTMENT NEEDS. >> R. JACK CAGLE: YOU DID

SEYMA -- SEAMAR? >> YES, SIR.

>> TOM RAMSEY: THANK YOU. >> R. JACK CAGLE: ANY ACTION.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: WE WILL VOTE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE AGENDA.

ITEM 238 HAS BEEN VOTED ON. COMMISSIONER ELLIS WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT. COMMISSIONER ELLIS, ARE YOU

AVAILABLE? >> RODNEY ELLIS: DID YOU CALL ME, COMMISSIONER? I WAS TRYING TO VERIFY TO GET INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WHAT DID YOU ASK?

>> R. JACK CAGLE: 238, WE VOTED ON IT, BUT YOU WANTED TO TALK

ABOUT IT? >> RODNEY ELLIS: I JUST WANTED

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TO MAKE SURE IT IS CLEAR THAT IT IS PRECINCT ONE'S MONEY.

I WANTED TO KNOW IF WE ARE CREATING A NEW PRECEDENT.

IT IS FINE WITH ME. I CAN'T USE MONEY FROM PRECINCT 1 TO DO A BUY BACK PROGRAM. A COUPLE MEMBERS ARE VOTING AGAINST IT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.

I MAY EXERCISE THAT PREROGATIVE AT SOME POINT AS WELL.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNEW THAT THAT IS PRECINCT 1 MONEY.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: IT WASN'T CLEAR, BUT THAT'S ALSO THE TYPE OF PRECEDENT OF A PROGRAM I DON'T THINK I AM SUPPORTIVE OF.

AND I THINK YOU ALREADY BROKE THAT PRECEDENT, COMMISSIONER.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WHAT GOES AROUND

COMES AROUND. >> R. JACK CAGLE: YOU HAVE BEEN

GIVEN THAT ALREADY, THAT LOVE. >> RODNEY ELLIS: THANK YOU.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: 251. PRECINCT TWOZ AND -- PRECINCTS 2

AND 3. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: YES, I JUST WANTED TO HEAR FROM MR. RAMOS. I WANTED TO ASK HIM TO DO THIS MAINLY BECAUSE -- NUMBER ONE TO SPEAK TO THE GROWTH OF INVESTMENT WE MADE IN PUBLIC SAFETY OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.

AND THEN SECONDLY, AN EYE TO THE FUTURE IF TERMS OF WE ARE RECEIVING THE SECOND ARPA FUNDS AND I WANT TO HOPE -- I WANT TO -- I HOPEFULLY WANT US TO BE DILIGENT ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE CAN USE THAT ARPA MONEY TO DEAL WITH UNANTICIPATED COST INCREASES OR WE CAN SPEND IT AND PROBABLY CANCEL PROJECTS OR HAVE TO GO MORE INTO DEBT POTENTIALLY.

MR. RAMOS, IF YOU CAN JUST WALK US THROUGH WHAT YOU'RE SEEING

THROUGH YOUR EXERCISE. >> SURE.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS, JUDGE.

I'M PRESENTING ON THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE FORECAST.

IT IS A NEW TERM FOR THE COUNTY, BUT THIS IS A PROCESS MANY MUNICIPALITIES GO THROUGH IN THE CITY OF BALTIMORE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S A SUMMARY OF ALL THE DECISIONS THAT COURT HAS MADE TO DATE.

AND LOOKING AT IT AT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FACTOR IN THINGS LIKE INFLATION. WHEN WE FACTOR IN THINGS LIKE CHANGES TO LEGAL MANDATES FROM THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONTRACTS, UTILITIES, ET CETERA, HOW MUCH WILL IT COST TO RUN THE COUNTY THE EXACT SAME WAY NEXT YEAR? AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SHORT FISCAL YEAR MAKES THE COMPARISON VERY DIFFICULT.

JUST BEAR WITH ME. I AM USING FISCAL YEAR 21 AS A COMPARISON. FISCAL YEAR 21, OUR COSTS HAVE GONE UP 235 MILLION. THAT ACCOUNTS FOR 12% COST INCREASES. INFLATION WENT UP 7.6% IN THE HOUSTON AREA. I WANT TO NOTE HERE THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 2% PUBLIC SAFETY VOTED ON AT THE END OF THE SHORT FISCAL YEAR. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE COLA FOR ANYBODY ELSE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

>> OUR COSTS HAVE RISEN AND IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO PHYSICIAN -- FISCAL YEAR 23 PLANNING WAS PASSED AT THE END OF THE SHORT FISCAL YEAR AND OUR COSTS HAVE GONE UP 122 MILLION AND THAT IS BROKEN DOWN 17 MILLION IN COUNTY WIDE BUILD INS. ONE CHANGES THE LEGAL MANDATES AND ANY OPERATING PROCEDURES THAT HAVE CHANGED AT THE DIRECTION OF THE COURT AS WELL AS AGENCIES THAT HAVE SOME SORT OF CHANGE IN OPERATION ARE FORCED TO SPEND MONEY.

21 MILLION IS FOR IN -- INFLATIONARY CAUSES AND THESE ARE THINGS OUT OF OUR CONTROL. THEY FUEL SUPPLIES -- SORRY.

FUEL, ELECTRICITY AND THINGS ALONG THOSE MAJORS AND COMPENSATION BENEFITS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO FLAG IS ALMOST -- INFLATION IS A NORMAL PART.

YOU WILL NEVER SEE -- YOU WILL ALMOST NEVER SEE UNLESS YOU MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGED TO THE FIXED CAUSE A BUDGET THAT IS SMALLER THAN THE YEAR BEFORE. THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.

WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS A SHORT INFLATIONARY ABOVE THAT.

HOW DOES THAT BREAK DOWN BY BUCKET? BY FAR ABOVE IS SAFETY PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY THE JAIL.

IT IS $24 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL COSTS TO RUN THE JAIL AS THIS COURT HAS APPROVED THUS FAR. 14 MILLION IS FOR THE LA SALLE OUTSOURCING AND SEVEN MILLION FOR THE ADDITIONAL DETENTION

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OFFICERS AND SERGEANTS THAT WERE PROVED AT LAST COURT.

AND ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS IS FOR FOOD AND HYGIENE PRODUCTS, BOTH BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE FOLKS IN OUR JAIL AND BECAUSE THE COST OF THE GOODS HAS GONE UP. THEY WERE ABLE TO ABSORB THE COST IN THIS FISCAL YEAR. ON THE O AND B BUILD INS, THE FISCALLY SOUND ITEMS I FELT WERE IMPORTANT TO HAVE PLACE HOLDERS IN THE BUDGET, 10 MILLION IS FOR CYBER SECURITY.

I KNOW UNIVERSAL SERVICES PRESENTATION DURING THE CLOSED SESSION ON A BLUEPRINT FOR CYBER SECURITY IN THIS COUNTY, MUCH OF THE COST WILL BE CAPITALIZED. I DID THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SHOW SOME LEVEL OF GENERAL FUND COMMITMENT IN THAT ITEM.

I CAME FROM THE CITY OF BALTIMORE AND WE HAD A RANSOMWARE AND IT IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO RECOVER FROM ONE THAN TO PREVENT IT. IN CYBER SECURITY, WHAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE REQUESTED ITEM IS HARDWARE REPLACEMENT.

I THINK THERE IS AN APPETITE TO MOVE TOWARD A COUNTY WIDE REPLACEMENT WITH SOME OF THESE ASSETS.

I KNOW GENERAL FOURIER TKPWAU -- GENERAL NORIEGA, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON, BUT THAT IS CYBER SECURITY.

MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS UP TO SNUT -- SNUFF. THREE OR FOUR COURTS AGO THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION FOR ADDITIONAL BENEFITS.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE AND BUDGET FOR BECAUSE THERE ARE DEPARTMENTS WITH LOTS OF TURNOVER LIKE THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY WHERE WE ARE PAYING OUT THINGS WE ARE NOT BUDGET FOR.

SO CREATING AREAS WHERE IT IS THE FINAL APPROPRIATION RATHER THAN DOING BUDGET TRANSFERS WE CAN HANDLE SOME OF THIS STUFF ADMINISTRATIVELY. WE HAVE MANY AROUND THE COUNTY AND WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF IT.

I WANT TO SEE IF WE HAVE A PLACE HOLDER TO DO SOMETHING.

THE NEXT BIGGEST ITEM IS GENERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND THE BIGGEST COMPONENT OF THAT IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF BRINGING DELINQUENT TAXES IN HOUSE.

SO THAT IS TPAEUF .4 -- SO THAT IS 5.4 MILLION.

THERE IS ALSO THE COST OF THE I.T. SYSTEM.

FOR JUSTICE WE ARE SEEING SB6 HAD ABOUT AN $800,000 IMPACT.

THIS WAS AN UNFUNDED MANDATE BY THE STATE.

THE STATE HAS PUT ON A HIGHER ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN ACROSS THE DIFFERENT JUSTICE DEPARTMENTS. WE HAD TO INVEST IN SOME FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT. THERE IS $300,000 AND I WORKED WITH THE DISTRICT CLERK. WE ARE PUTTING THE FOOD CONTRACT OUT FORBID FROM $10 -- FOR BID FROM $10 TO $15 AND IF THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THEY WILL COME TO THE COURT APPROVAL FROM $10 TO WHATEVER IT ENDS UP BEING. THERE IS A FLAG FOR AN ADDITIONAL 700,000 IN PSYCH -- PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES.

THIS IS SOMETHING I AM HAPPY TO BE PAYING FOR.

AS THEY RAMP UP, THE COSTS ARE GOING TO RAMP UP FOR SOME OF THESE SPECIALTY SERVICES. FOR ENGINEERING, THE MAJORITY OF THE COSTS ARE RELATED TO BRINGING MAINTENANCE OF FAN IN.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. INFLATION, I KNOW THAT WE TALK ABOUT THIS EUFR -- EVERY DAY. YOU ARE SEEING IT IN YOUR PURSE.

THE COUNTY IS SEEING IT AT A VERY HIGH SCALE.

THE LARGEST IS MAINTENANCE. WE ARE SEEING A COST INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR FOR AN ADDITIONAL COST OF 5.4 MILLION COUNTY WIDE.

THIS IS BOTH LABOR AND SUPPLIES. UTILITIES, THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THE UTILITY IS ACTUALLY ENERGY.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE FUTURES MARKET WITH OUR CONSULTANT, WE SAW A 25% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR WITH VERY SIMILAR LEVELS OF CONSUMPTION. I.T., VERY SIMILAR TO FACILITY

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MAINTENANCE. JUST THE COST OF THE MAINTENANCE CONTRACT IS GOING UP 8% YEAR OVER YEAR.

FUEL, EVERYONE SEES IT AT THE PUMP.

WE ARE SEEING IT. WE ARE SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF A DIP FROM THE SHORT FISCAL YEAR, BUT IT IS STILL SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE WHAT WAS IN THE PLANNING YEAR BUDGET AND FISCAL YEAR 41.

AND THEN $3 MILLION FOR FLEET, AGAIN, WHEN WE NEED SUPPLIES, AND WHEN WE OUT SOURCE THINGS TO THE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS THE COST IS GOING UP. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

A LITTLE GOOD NEWS IN WHAT IS A LOT OF BAD NEWS FOR THE COUNTY.

OUR PENSION SYSTEM RETURNED 20% NET OF FEES ON OUR ASSETS AGAINST A BENCHMARK OF 7.5. WE WERE CONTRIBUTING 15.7% OF THE SALARIES AND WE WERE ABLE TO GO DOWN TO 15.1.

THAT'S GENERAL FUNDS AND SAVINGS AND WE ARE ABLE TO TALK -- WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE IT. WORKERS COMP IS INTERESTING.

WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING A CHANGE.

THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE VERY -- THIS COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY PROACTIVE IN FUNDING THAT LIABILITY.

SO THERE IS A CASH SURPLUS IN THIS FUND.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN THE COSTS ARE GOING UP.

AS WE RAISE WAGES WHICH IS A PRIMARY DRIVER, OUR CLAIMS WILL GO UP. WE HAVE HAD THREE LINEUP DUTY DEATHS. IT IS -- WE HAVE HAD THREE LINE OF DUTY DEATHS WHICH IS TERRIBLE AS WE PAY THE BENEFITS OUT TO THE BENEFICIARIES. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING LEVEL FUNDING, BUT THIS IS AN AREA OF CONCERN.

COMPENSATION -- SORRY. THE INSURANCE POLICIES, THIS IS PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY TWO POLICIES.

ONE IS WE ARE BUDGETING FOR CYBER SECURITY FOR THE FIRST TIME. THAT'S ABOUT A MILLION.

AND THEN HALF A MILLION FOR PROPERTY INSURANCE.

WE OWN A LOT OF PROPERTY AND AS OUR PROPERTY GOES UP IN UH PROS SAL, SO DOES THE -- UP IN UH -- APPRAISAL, SO DOES THE COST TO INSURANCE IT. 5.2 MILLION FOR THE 2% IN DEPUTY SALARIES AND THEN 900,000 IN UNBUDGETED RAISES FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. WHAT I DO WANT TO NOTE THERE IS A LOT OF THAT WILL BE OFFSET BY VACANCIES.

THERE IS A -- THERE IS A PUSH TOWARD BEING FULLY STAFFED IN THAT DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE TO BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY AND THEN FOR HEALTHCARE, AND THIS IS WHERE I KNOW IN HIS PRIOR LIFE, MR. BERRY HAS BEEN FLAGGING THIS, AND THIS IS WHERE THE VERY BRIGHT RED LIGHT STARTS TO FLASH FOR ME.

WE HAVE SEEN OUR COSTS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE.

THIS YEAR IT IS 28 MILLION. I THINK IT WAS 35 MILLION LAST YEAR. SO ALL IN ALL, IT IS JUST A HUGE INCREASE. THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS DRIVING IT. ONE IS, OUR FOLKS NEVER WENT HOME. OR THE FOLKS THAT DRIVE A LOT OF PLANTS WERE GETTING QUO INDIVIDUAL SICK AND -- COVID SICK AND NORMAL SICK. A LOT OF EMPLOYERS WHO SAW DIPS IN OUR CLAIMS, WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT.

HARRIS HEALTH HAS TOLD US THE KO*GS OF A NURSE HAS GONE -- THE COST OF A NURSE HAS GONE UP WHICH IS ASTRONOMICAL WHICH IS COMPARED TO THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO.

A LOT OF THE DATA HAS SHOWN THAT FOLKS ARE SICKER AT THE END OF THE PANDEMIC. THEY MAY HAVE GAINED WEIGHT.

THERE IS PREVENTATIVE HEALTHCARE AND WE ARE STARTING TO CATCH UP TO IT. THEY WEREN'T GETTING SCREENED FOR CANCER AND WEREN'T GETTING NIL OF THOSE THINGS.

ALL IN ALL, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT COSTS TO INFLATION.

LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, I DO WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE TIME ON REVENUE. WE DIDN'T SHOW A REVENUE NUMBER.

THAT IS LARGELY BECAUSE THE RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES IS TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WHENHE T CITYAS PSED SB2, THE BIGGEST IMPACTS IRELATED TOHE T WAY THEY TREATPP AEALS.

UNDER SB2WE, HAVEO TDEDUCTUT O ANY PROPERTIESHA TT ARE UNDER APPEAL AS OFUL JY 25TH. LAST YEARHE TRE IS $25 BILLION WORTH OFRO PPERTIES. IT IS ROUGHLYHR TEE MILLION FOR EVERYIL BLION INSS AESSMENT. THAT'S75 $ MILLIONF OREVENUE THATAS W NOT AVAILABLE TOS. U WE AREN ICONSTANT COMMUNICATION

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ANDNK THIING ABOUT WHAT THE SCOPEGO IS ING TO BE AS OFS THI JULY 25TH. BUT ITAS HMENT -- HASNT MEA WE ARELL WHOYIA RELNT ON THE INCREASE INEN REVUE TO GOH WIT THE INCREASE INTS COS. CONSTRUCTION IS ABL DOUE-EDGED SWORD. IT IS GREAT FOLKS M AREOVING HERE AND WEE HAVTO PROVIDE SERVICES T FORHEM.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: AND R MR.AMOS, ON THATNT POI, I ASK WHERE WE ARE AT IN TERMS OFVI PRODING SERVICES.

WHAT ARE YOURHT THOUGS ON THAT?> LOOKING AT THETO HIS SRE --HI STORICAL DATA AND I AM NEW AT GETTING MYT FEEWET, BUT WE LAGGING BEHIND IN O TERMSF COUNTYRO HAS GWNFI SIGNICANTLY.

WE MAY OROT MAY N BECO NTRIBUTINGRE TO COCE SERVIS.

YOUEE ARE SING THAT IN THE REARLIESS DISCUIONS,OU AND Y CAN SEE ASOU THE CNTY GROWS WETO NEED PROVIDE MORE AND MORECE SERVISTO PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THEUN

INCORPORATED AREA.>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK

>> TO ANSWERIG YOUR ORINAL QUESTION -BGS OF THE $235 MILLIONAS INCREE, 80 MILLION ISY DIRECTLNT CORIBUTED TO PUBLIC SAFETY. R ITOUGHLY WORKS OUT TO 167 NEWSI POTIONS ACROSSFE THE DIFRENT PUBLIC SAFETYS. AGENCIE H WEAVE MADECA SIGNIFINTVE INSTMENTS IN THE AREAS. I

>>F I MIGHT ON THAT POINT, COMMISSIONER CAGLE? R

>>. JACK CAGLE: PROCEED. >> RODNEY ELLIS: W YHAT I HEAROU SAYING ISNA THE COMBITION OF ANU REVEEBI CAP COMNED INFLATIONAS AND INCREED COSTSPU FOR BLIC SAFETY AND JAIL OVER CROWDING WILL MAKEUL IT DIFFICT FOR US TO KEEPLE THE SAME VELSEF RVICES. NEXT YEARHA IS TT AEN FAIR COMMT?

>> THATT. IS CORREC IT THINK THATHE CONVERSATIONDES FINITELYCH GOING TO ANGE FROME WHEREEIN WE INVESTG TO ARE WE MAINTAINING COUPLE YEARS?OT I AM NUT WORRIED ABO THIS YEAR.

WE HAVETI OPPORTUNIES TO CHANGE DIFFERENTS. OPERATIONOD

>> RNEY ELLIS: ONE MORE.ED COMBIN WITH THAT, IF I MIGHT,E WE HAVDECIDEDST OVER THE LA THREE YEARS TOG DO SOMETHINEN DIFFERT FROM WHAT THISDI COURT D.

OUR PREDECESSOR ISHE DIFFERENT T YEARS.

WE CUT REVENUE BY80 600, 0 MILLION?

>>LI IT IS 250 MILON PER YEAR ACROSS THAT INCLUS THETH LEVIES FOR E HOSPITALTH DISTRICT AND E W PORT ASELL AS THE GENERAL FUND. THE D FLOOD CONTROLISTRICTGE AND

THE NERAL FUND.NE >> RODY ELLIS: 750 MILLION.

>> 500 MILLI OVER THE LASTS, TWO YEAR COMMISSIONER.NE

>> RODY ELLIS: SO THREE YEARS.DO IN THREEE THIS

YEARS. >> YES.LA

THE CUMUTIVE IS 500 MILLION.Y >> RODNEELLIS: YEARS,TH NOT TWO. REE?

>> YES.NE >> RODY ELLIS: I WAS SAYING 600 TO 800 MILLION.OW PICKED THATHERE I UP. IT IS 500 MILLION.

>> I T DO WANT TO FLAGHAT MOSTAM OF WHAT I PRESENTINGT HERE IS NONEW I KNOW IT ISGE PART OF THE BUDT PRESENTATIONHE LAST YEAR AND TS. PRIOR YEAR I THINK WHAT I WOULD SAY IS WEG ARE FEELINTHE FULL BRUNT OF THE REVENUE CAP -- OR WE WILL FEEL THE FULL BRUNTED --HE BRUNT OF T REVENUE CAP UNLESS HCAD CAN PROCESSS. ALL OF THE APPEALE THINGS LIKE ALTHCARE AND INFLATION ARE WORSE THANNT ORIGINALLY AICIPATED AND THEJA COST OF THE IL HAS EXPLODED.

THISAN DOES NOT INCLUDE YUT ADDITIONAL O SOURCING, TO BETH CLEAR. AT MAY BEN. DISCUSSED LATER O IFES WE ARE MAKING INVTMENTSIC N THE JUSTE AREA, AND WEA ARE BEARING FULL BRUNT OFPU THE JAL POLATION.RC

>> ADRIAN GAIA: COMMISSIONER ELLIS JUSTCT TOUCHED ON THE EFFE OF SOME LEGISLATION FROM THE STATE IF NOT FOR SB2, WOULD YOU --TO WHAT WOULD YOU SAY T THIS?

>>HOSE ARE PRELIMINARYHE NUMBERS, BUT WN WE GET THE B APPEALS NUMBERACK WE WILL HAVE A CLEARY T SENSE OVER THE LASTWO YEARS WHERE SB2 HAS LEFT US.ER WE WOULD BE AT VY MINIMUM

NEUTRAL AGAINST OUR GROWTHRC. >> ADRIAN GAIA: SO THE EFFECT

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OF -- SB2 IF NOT FOR THAT IT IS HAVING A RATCHETMA DOWN EFFECT O

INTAIN SERVICES. >> CORRECT.ST THERE ARE OTHER COS, ABOUT 800,000.

I KNOW THE EA HASE COME TO DISCUSS THCOST OF SB1.G ALSO I WANT TO FLA THAT SB23 PUTS A FLOORTY ON OUR PUBLIC SAFE THAT ACCOUNTSWE FOR HALF OF THE LAN FORTS --AT LAW ENFORCEMENT TH IS. HALF OF THE BUDGETEN WHEN YOU HAVE A SPDING FLOOR AND A REVENUEWI CAP, THOSE THINS LL MEET AND THE TIME IS COMING.R.

>> TOM RAMSEY: M RAMOS, A COUPLE THINGS.

WE ARE COMING TO END OF THIS ARPA TENDENCY.

AS WE COME OUT OF THE FUNDING OF ARPA DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW

WE WILL FAIR WITH THAT? >> I THINK THE COURT WILL T HAVE HARD DECISIONSO MAKE. WE ARE FUNDING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PROGRAMS. I THINK THERE IS GOING TO -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK COLLECTIVELY AS A COUNTY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WILL NEED TO KEEP. H

>> TOM RAMSEY: SO WEAVE A PROBLEM THERE.

AND WE KNOW WE STARTED MANY NEW PROGRAMS AND THAT HAS A COST I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS IT WAS THE 122 MILLION YOU REFERENCED AT LEAST. SO WE STARTED THE NEW PROGRAM AND YOU SAID WE HAVE A REVENUE PROBLEM.

YOU ARE JUST CLEAR AS CAN BE. AND WE DON'T HAVE A>> SPENDING PROBLEM. WHEN WEID MET THE FIRST THING I SA WAS WE HAVEE TO CREATE A CULTURE WHERWE ARE PUSHING EFFICIENCY DOWN AND GETTING THE MOST VALUE OUT OF OUR DOLLAR.

I THINK WHERE THE REVENUE LANDS WE HAVE TO MAKE DIFFERENT

CHOICES. >> AND THEN THE SENATE BILL PUTS ON HOLD 75 MILLION. THAT'S NOT ON HOLD, IS IT?

>> IT DEPENDS ONL. THE OUTCOME F YOUR APPEA

>> WHAT IS OUR RECORD ON APPEAL? >> IT IS LESS --

>> ESSENTIALLY ATS JULY 25TH, IF YOUR APPEAL INOT CONCLUDED, YOU ARE TAKEN OUT OF THE ACCESSIBLE BASE WHICH IS WHERE WE SET UP THE TAX BILLS. IN THE OLDER WORLD --

>> THAT MONEY IS GONE. YOU DON'T GET A SHOT OF THAT.

>> YOU GET A PORTION IF WE LOSE THE APPEAL.

>> AND IF I MIGHT JUST BECAUSE I HAVE A COUPLE MORE YEARS OF LIVING WITH THIS THE BOTTOM LINE IS SENATE BILL 2, THE IDEA OF A -- THE IDEA AS I UNDERSTOOD IT IT COULD GROW A OPERATING REVENUE 3.5% PLUS CONSTRUCTION. IT MAY BE 5% IN A GIVEN YEAR.

WE ARE SEEING DRAMATICALLY LOWER THAN THAT BECAUSE OF THIS.

I DON'T KNOWING -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS INTENTIONAL OR AN ACCIDENT, BUT WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION -- WE'LL SEE THE FINAL

NUMBERS, BUT WE WILL HAVE 5.5%. >> THEY GIVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY A BIG BREAK. WHEN A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY COMES IN AND THEY SAY I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

THEY WILL SAY, OKAY. WE'LL PUT THAT ON HOLD AND WE'LL LOOK AT IT. YOU LET OLD RESIDENT MS. SALLY COME IN AND SHE IS 80 YEARS OLD AND SHE DOESN'T AGREE THAT I AM PAYING TOO MUCH TAXES I SAY IF A RESIDENT PROTESTED, HOW MANY TIMES -- WHAT PERCENT OF WHAT THEY PROTEST DO YOU AGREE THEY WERE RIGHT? THE ANSWER IS WELL, WHEN MS. SALLY COMES IN OR ANYBODY ELSE, 90% OF THE TIME THEY AGREE

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WITH MS. SALLY. MAYBE ANOTHER WAY TO SAY THAT IS YOU'RE WRONG 90% OF THE TIME. I DO THINK THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE NEED TO HAVE WITH HCAD AND THE WHOLE PROCESS THEY GO THROUGH AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS AND THEY NEED TO GET THE NUMBER RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. WE DON'T NEED TO PUT MS. SALLY THROUGH HIRING AN ATTORNEY TO GET THE SKEPBSS -- SENSES RIGHT.

MY SENSE IS THEY COME OUT ALT HIGH, A LITTLE HIGH ON THE RESIDENTIAL OR THE COMMERCIAL. WITH THE COMMERCIAL THEY HIRE AN ATTORNEY AND TIE IT UP IN COURT FOR YEARS.

THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTS, THE HOMEOWNER OUT THERE IS HAVING TO PAY THE BULK OF IT. THERE IS A LOT OF PROBLEM.

SOME IS IN AUSTIN AND SOME IS HERE.

>> AND THE OTHER THING TOO IS T-TS -- IT IS FAIR, BUT UNEQUAL.

THE ASSESSMENT FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS FAIR BECAUSE IT IS ASSESSED COMPARED TO RESIDENTIAL.

, BUT IT IS UNEQUAL. THE TAXING SYSTEM HAS BEEN RESIDENTIAL IT DOESN'TY KWAEUP FOR -- DOESN'T EQUIP -- EQUATE

TO THE SKYSCRAPER. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU, MR. >> COMMISSIONER, BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT ITEM. WE HAVE A SPEAKER FOR 295 THAT WE WERE NOT -- I THINK IS STILL ON HOLD.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: LET'S HEAR THE SPEAKER.

BEFORE WE HEAR THE SPEAKER, BUT LET ME MAKE SURE THE RECORD IS CLEAR. 251 IS A TRANSMITTAL AND NO ACTION WAS NECESSARY. WHO IS THE SPEAKER, PLEASE.

>> IT IS SPEAKER NUMBER 12 FOR AGENDA RELATED [INAUDIBLE]

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. I AM CODY CUTTING AND HERE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS CORP. I HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL DAY TO COMMENT ON 295. I DIDN'T RECEIVE A CALL UNTIL JUST RECENTLY. I AM NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED, BUT I THINK IT IS INEXCUSABLE TO MAKE SUCH AN IMPORTANT DECISION THAT WILL IMPACT SO MANY PEOPLE WITHOUT ROBUST PUBLIC CONVERSATION. I URGE YOU TO REJECT THE SHERIFF'S REQUEST FOR $35 TO EXILE 1,000 PRESUMPTIVELY INNOCENT PEOPLE TO A SITE 4,000 MILES AWAY.

IT IS PUTTING MILES BETWEEN PEOPLE AND THEIR LAWYERS AND A FOR PROFIT COMPANY WITH A RECORD OF ABUSIVE CONDITIONS AT THE JAIL INCLUDING EXTENDED SOLITARY CONFINEMENT.

THE BUREAU DROPPED THEIR CONTRACT TO USE THIS FACILITY.

IT IS WILDLY IRRESPONSIBLE TO USE TAXPAYER MONEY ADDING $35 MILLION TO THE 14 MILLION THAT THE COUNTY IS ALREADY

SPENDING TO PUT 600 PEOPLE IN. >> THANK YOU.

YOUR TIME IS UP. >> WE ALL DESERVE BETTER AND I

URGE YOU TO VOTE NO. >> R. JACK CAGLE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TO CLARIFY ITEM 288 HAD BEEN -- I THINK WE VOTED ON THAT. I AM NOT SURE.

>> YES, YOU DID. >> R. JACK CAGLE: 288 HAS BEEN

[Emergency/Supplemental items (Part 3 of 3)]

VOTED ON. WE ARE NOW ON 293.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: HAVE I -- I HAVE 293.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: YOU MAY PROCEED.

THIS IS A TRANS -- TRANSMITTAL. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I JUST WANT TO COMMEND FIRST OUR COLLEAGUE, COMMISSIONER ELLIS, FOR HAVING STRATEGICALLY PUSH THIS WHEN HE DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES.

NOW AS WE CAN SEE IN THE REPORT, THERE IS SOME GOOD OUTPUT COMING THROUGH THE FACT THAT WE ARE TRACKING OUR MINORITY WOMEN BUSINESS ENTERPRISES. THE ONE AREA WE ARE STILL A BIT DEFICIENT ON IS BEING ABLE TO TRACK THE PAYMENT TO OUR SUBS

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WHICH IS REALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY THE MOST CRITICAL PART OF IT. WE CAN TRACK FOR THE MOST PART THAT THEY ARE GETTING THEIR MONEY, BUT THE SUBS ARE THE ONE THAT'S WE DO NOT KNOW THEY ARE GETTING PAID.

DWIGHT AND DIANA, THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THE CALL.

DWIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS OR DIANA HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH DWIGHT OR THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HOW WE CAN TRACK THE PAYMENT TO THE SUBS? THAT'S WHERE THE GREAT MAJORITY OF THIS WORK IS AT.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS WITH THE PURCHASING OFFICE AND THE ENGINEER SK-G FLOOD CONTROL -- ENGINEERING AND FLOOD CONTROL AND UNIVERSAL SERVICES TO PUT A WORK GROUP TOGETHER OF STAFF FROM EACH OF THOSE OFFICES SO WE CAN EXACTLY TRACK AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CURRENT BUSINESS PROCESSES ARE. AND SO WE CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM OF TRACKING THESE PAYMENTS AND HAVE THEM BE AUTOMATED SO WE ARE EFFICIENT IN THE REPORTING AND WE ARE NOT HAVING TO CALL INFORMATION FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT SPREAD SHEETS AND DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS AND SOFTWARE PLATFORMS.

WE ARE ON THAT. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: DOES B2G OFFER SOMETHING THAT CAN MAKE IT MORE STREAM LINED?

>> IT DOES, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION IS ENTERED INTO PEOPLE SOFT AND THEN THE INTEGRATION THAT WE'VE ALREADY ALMOST FINISHED FROM B2G AND PEOPLE SOFT, THEN IT CAN WORK. THERE IS A LITTLE MORE WORK TO BE DONE ON THE -- ON ALL OF THOSE ISSUES SO WE CAN HAVE IT FULLY AUTOMATED. IT'S BEEN FRUSTRATING, BUT WE ARE GETTING THERE AND WE ARE LUCKY THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE WORKING WITH US TO SOLVE THE ISSUE.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: AND I UNDERSTAND EVEN THINGS LIKE THE P CARD PURCHASES WERE NOT A PART OF THE EVALUATION.

>> CORRECT. ANYTHING UNDER $50,000, WE ARE NOT GETTING INTO AS OF THIS MOMENT.

WE WANT TO CLEAN UP EVERYTHING ABOVE $50,000 FIRST AND THEN WE CAN START TALKING AND LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER TWEAKS AND THINGS WE CAN DO TO INVOLVE OUR PROCUREMENT.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: IF I ASK YOU FOR A REPORT IN 30 DAYS ON THE SUB ASPECT IS THAT TOO SOON OR CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE IN 30

DAYS? >> WE CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE WORK OF THE WORKING GROUP AND WHERE WE ARE, AND WE CAN COUPLE TOGETHER SOME INFORMATION.

FOR ALL OF THE PAYMENTS COMING IN THROUGH THE PURCHASING CONTRACT AND THE CONTRACTS THEY HANDLE, AND DWIGHT PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG PWAU -- AND YOU HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THAT, BUT WE ARE RELYING ON THE DEPARTMENT SPREAD SHEETS AND THE INFORMATION TO COME INTO US AND WE HAVE TO VERIFY AND CONFIRM

ALL OF THE INFORMATION. >> WE ARE ENTERING ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS TO B2G NOW AND TO PEOPLE SOFT -- NOT B2G, BUT INTO PEOPLE SOFT. WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACTS AND WE ARE HELPING WITH THE ENGINEERING OFFICE. THAT INFORMATION IS BEING

ENTERED IN THERE. >> AND SO I WILL BE ASKING FOR A FINAL REPORT IN 30 DAYS. NOT NECESSARILY AN UPDATE.

HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE RESOLVED IN 30 DAYS AND YOU CAN LET US KNOW IF YOU NEED MORE TIME AND WHY.

>> YES, SIR. >> R. JACK CAGLE: ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS FROM PRECINCT 2? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: FOR 2?

>> R. JACK CAGLE: NO. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I'M GOOD.

>> TOM RAMSEY: JUST A QUICK COMMENT.

EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING IN 30 DAYS IF WE HAVE TO DO A PILOT OR SOMETHING, I KNOW WHEN I WAS DOING WORK FOR OUR CITY/COUNTY/STATE, PEOPLE WOULD ASK ME FOR SUCH THINGS AS GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE MWBE. I JUST THOUGHT THAT WHAT WE

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COMMITTED TO ON THE FRONT END OF THE CONTRACT IS WHAT YOU ENDED UP WITH ON THE BACK END. I THINK THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY

THE CASE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THAT'S

CORRECT. >> TOM RAMSEY: MY GOOD FRIEND, SHE AND I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

SHE SAID, THERE IS ONE THING ABOUT YOU, TOM, THAT WHEN YOU TOLD ME THAT WE ARE GONNA BE DOING 25%, WE ALWAYS WOULD END UP WITH A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT, 27, 28.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE WITH EVERYBODY.

I THINK THAT'S TO YOUR POINT, COMMISSIONER.

WE MAKE THESE WONDERFUL COMMITMENTS ON THE FRONT END, BUT THE SUBS DON'T ALWAYS GET WHAT THEY ARE TOLD THEY ARE GONNA GET. SO WHATEVER SYSTEM WE COME UP WITH THROUGH PURCHASING, THAT SHOULDN'T BE THAT COMPLICATED.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THE OLD TRICK I FOUND AT THE CITY WAS THE MILESTONES OF WHERE THOSE WHO WERE SUPPOSED TO BE ENGAGED WERE NOT FOLLOWED. SO SUBS WERE GIVEN A MUCH SHORTER TIME FRAME TO TURN THE PRODUCT AROUND.

WHEN THEY SAID I CAN'T DO IT IN THE TIME FRAME, THEN I'LL DO IT

MYSELF. >> RIGHT.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: COMMISSIONER ELLIS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION

ON THIS ONE? >> RODNEY ELLIS: YES, A COUPLE QUESTIONS AND A COMMENT. I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE DEPARTMENT AND ENCOURAGE THE OTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENTS TO WORK WITH YOU AND BE PATIENT. I KNOW SOMETIMES THERE IS FRUSTRATION AND PEOPLE GET UPSET, BUT UNDER THE OLD SYSTEM THEY TALK ABOUT HOW GREAT THINGS USED TO BE.

IT WAS ALL WHITE MEN GETTING ALL OF THE WORK.

AND THAT WAS JUST FINE. I WANT TO STRESS THAT EQUITY IS JUSTICE AS A 6-LETTER WORD. IT IS SO EASY TO SAY IT.

IT FLOWS SO NATURALLY OFF EVERYBODY'S LIPS.

GENERALLY PEOPLE DON'T REALLY MEAN IT.

DEANNA, DIRECTOR, HOW MUCH HAS MWBE INCREASED OVERALL SINCE WE

STARTED THE PROGRAM? >> IT HAS INCREASED BY 119% OF

TOTAL AWARDS. >> RODNEY ELLIS: AND YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS HOW MANY PEOPLE AND HOW MANY OF THOSE HAVE BEEN

FILLED AND HOW MANY EMPTY? >> SO WE HAVE EIGHT POSITIONS WORKING ON THE MWBE PROGRAM. WE HAVE THREE VACANCIES AND ONE BECAUSE A PERSON LEFT TO GO TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTY AND ANOTHER BECAUSE THE FINALIST FOR THE POSITION WE ARE ASKING FOR $15,000 TO $20,000 ABOVE THE ACTUAL BUDGET FOR THE POSITION FOR THAT JOB TITLE SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO HIRE HIM.

WE HAD TO GO OUT AND OPEN IT UP AGAIN.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: THE CITY HAS A TEAM OF 30.

THEY DO CERTIFICATIONS AND WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY DO.

WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FILL THE POSITIONS?

>> A LOT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE JUST WANT MORE MONEY AND IT IS MORE THAN THE COUNTY HAS FOR THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS WE ARE HIRING FOR. WE CAN SEE THOSE THROUGHOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT. PALM ARE HAVING A HARD TIME FILLING POSITIONS. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE CITY OF HOUSTON'S TEAM OF 30, THAT'S FOR THE FOLKS THAT DON'T DO THE CERTIFICATION WORK. THAT'S ANOTHER 10.

YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF THE CITY OF HOUSTON'S BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY AND IT IS 40 FOR THE MWBE PROGRAM, BUT IF YOU TAKE OUT THE 10 THAT DO CERTIFICATIONS BECAUSE WE DON'T

DO CERTIFICATIONS IT IS 30. >> RODNEY ELLIS: I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE AND I HOPE THAT THIS COURT WILL BE SO WE CAN BRING MEANING TO THIS. WE ARE ONLY 38 YEARS AFTER THE CITY DID IT. WHAT -- ANY OTHER BIG CHALLENGES OR BIG STEPS YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT?

>> I THINK THERE ARE MORE EFFICIENCIES THAT WE CAN GAIN WITH SOME OF THE PROCESSES. WE HAVE MADE A LOT OF GOOD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RCA PROCESS FOR ITEMS GETTING ON TO THE COURT'S AGENDA. BUT BECAUSE OF THE RESOURCE CONSTRAINTS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WHO SPENDS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME REVIEWING EACH ITEM ON THE COURT'S AGENDA. THE ONE THING WE ARE WORKING WITH OCA'S TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE ACTUAL UTILIZATION PLANS OR THE DEO'S MEMO THAT KITS THAT -- THAT INDICATES A 0% GOAL IS AN ATTACHMENT TO THE RCA. AND THAT WOULD GO BACK AND DO A

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LOT OF RESEARCH AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS AND IT IS THE WORK OF THIS WORKING GROUP AND GETTING EVERYBODY COMMITTED TO SENDING THEIR STAFF TO THIS AND WE CAN GET FULLY AUTOMATED.

>> I HOPE SOME OF THE OTHERS WILL CALL HIM HE IS 93 OR 94.

I APPRECIATE HIS GUIDANCE. YOU RUN INTO FRUSTRATION WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES. YOU KEEP PUSHING FORWARD AND IT IS IMPORTANT. WATCH THESE.

I STATED WHEN WE MET BEFORE, I WANT THESE PEOPLE TO GROW THEIR BUSINESSES. I DON'T WANT THE CONTRACT TO PASS IT ON. I DON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME WORRIED ABOUT IT. A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE SET UP A BUSINESS WITH THEIR DAUGHTER OR WITH THEIR SPOUSE.

THESE NUMBERS WERE WORSE AT HARRIS HEALTH.

IF THESE SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE COMING ONLINE AND I KNOW THE HOUSTON COMMUNITY COLLEGE, -RG WE HAVE AN OLD MODEST ROLE OF PERSUADING THEM. I HOPE SAN JACINTO AND ROBERT E LEE COMMUNITY COLLEGE WILL SIGN ON.

I AM SO PROUD OF LONE STAR BY THE WAY FOR STEPPING UP.

>> HCC WILL COME ALONG. >> HCC DID.

THANK YOU FOR YOU AND YOUR STAFF EVEN WHEN YOU HAD COVID.

YOUR STAFF WAS OVER THERE WHEN YOU COULDN'T MAKE IT.

WE STILL WANT AND HOPE THEY WILL DO IT.

IT WILL MAKE OLD ROBERT E LEE PROUD.

>> HE WOULD BE ROLLING IF HIS GRAVE.

>> I WAS MAKING REFERENCE TO DR. PEOPLE NEVER REALLY KNEW HOW GOOD BASEBALL COULD BE UNTIL JACKIE ROBINSON CAME ALONG AND EVERYBODY COULD PLAY. IT REALLY DOES MATTER.

THANK YOU AND KEEP GOING AND WE ARE GOING TO KEEP PUSHING FOR YOU. WE MAY HAVE A FEW STUMBLING BLOCKS AND WE WILL GIVE THAT SIX-LETTER WORD MORE THAN JUST

ASSIGNMENT. >> R. JACK CAGLE: 283 IS A TRANSMITTAL AND NO ACTION IS NECESSARY.

ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES HAS BEEN FLASHING GANG SIGNS TO ME THAT HE NEEDS A 15-MINUTE BREAK. WE WILL BREAK NOW AND COME BACK AT 4:-- LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT AN EVEN NUMBER.

WE WILL COME BACK AT 5:00. THAT WILL BE A 19-MINUTE BREAK.

WE WILL RESUME AT 5:00. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU.

>> WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD AT 5:04.

OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS ITEM -- WE JUST COMPLETED 293.

WE HAVE 317, 318 AND 319, ALL FROM TIE TESTIMONIES FROM -- ITEMS FROM PRECINCT 3. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

>> TOM RAMSEY: I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK.

I CAME BACK TO THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BIT OF A REPORT. WE ALL DO THINGS BETWEEN MEETINGS. I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF PARTICIPATING LAST NIGHT -- OR LATE YESTERDAY WITH BISHOP

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TKEUBGDZEN -- BISHOP DIXON AND SENATOR WHIT MEYER AND JARVIS JOHNSON AND PASTOR OF THE -- THE PASTOR OF THE BAPTIST CHURCH THERE AND SAM HOUSTON PARKWAY AS WE CAME OUT AGAINST EXPANDING THE LANDFILL IN THE PHEUTD -- IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THERE IS NOTHING MORE OF AN IMPACT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAN DOING THINGS IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SHOULDN'T BE.

I WAS PLEASED TO REPRESENT THE COUNTY THERE AS WE ADVOCATED FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT THAT LANDFILL HAS BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS.

THEY WANT TO ADD ANOTHER 20 FEET PLUS ON TOP OF IT SO IT CAN OPERATE ANOTHER 40 YEARS. THAT'S A BONUS THAT, JAY, YOU JUST IGNORE THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: COMMISSIONER, BEFORE YOU GET INTO THAT, DURING THE BREAK I HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH MY COLLEAGUE, COMMISSIONER ELLIS. I FOUND MYSELF IN THE CROSSROADS BETWEEN TWO PRINCIPALS. ONE IS I DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING I DISAGREE WITH AND HOW IT OUGHT TO BE DONE.

THE OTHER THING IS THE PRINCIPAL OF ALLOWING A COMMISSIONER TO CONDUCT BUSINESS IN THEIR PRECINCT THE WAY THEY WANT TO.

I THINK THE GUN BUY BACK PROGRAM IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, THAT I AM ON THE SAME PAGE, I THINK, WITH COMMISSIONER ELLIS IS A PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.

I THINK THAT MAY HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT ARE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES. HOWEVER, NOW THAT IT IS CLEAR THAT THAT IS THE -- THAT IS BEING FUNDED BY PRECINCT 1 IN PRECINCT 1 AND TALKING WITH COMMISSIONER ELLIS, I AM GOING TO CHANGE MY VOTE FROM A NO VOTE TO AN EX -- TO AN ABSTENTION.

I CAN'T VOTE FOR THE PROGRAM BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO SOLVE A SERIOUS AND REAL PROBLEM, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE ON RECORD OF BEING AGAINST A COLLEAGUE SPENDING FUNDS -- BECAUSE IN PRECINCT 4 WE SHIFTED TO THE -- WE TOOK A MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF OUR BUDGET AND GAVE IT TO THE CON -- CONSTABLES. I WANT EACH OF US TO BE TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM THE WAY WE THINK BEST.

I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT PARTICULAR UH PORT, BUT -- THAT PARTICULAR APPROACH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE AGAINST A COLLEAGUE TRYING TO SOLVE IT. I WILL CHANGE MY VOTE FROM A NO

VOTE TO AN ABSTENTION. >> AND CAN YOU PLEASE FOR CLARIFICATION TELL ME WHAT ITEM THAT IS IN REFERENCE TO?

>> THIS IS ITEM 238. >> SO YOU ARE ABSTAINING?

>> I WILL ABSTAIN. CAN I -- I CAN VOTE FOR IT, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO VOTE AGAINST A COLLEAGUE TRYING TO SOLVE A

PROBLEM IN THEIR PRECINCT. >> RODNEY ELLIS: COMMISSIONER CAGLE, I APPRECIATE YOU ABSTAINING BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE CAME FORWARD WITH PRECINCT FUNDS I HAD A PROBLEM WITH IN THE PAST.

I CAN'T REMEMBER SPECIFICS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WROTE -- I WENT AHEAD AND VOTED FOR THEM ANYWAYS.

WHEN ONE COMES UP AGAIN AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, I MIGHT ABSTAIN. I MIGHT GO AHEAD AND GO WITH THAT SINCE THAT IS WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS TRADITION.

>> TOM RAMSEY: I DID NOT REALIZE THAT AS WELL, COMMISSIONER.

AND I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WE HAD ON A LOT OF ISSUES, AT LEAST WE TRY REAL HARD TO STAY FOCUSED AND SERVE OUR OWN PRECINCTS. I WANT TO CHANGE MY TO AN ABSTENTION SO WE DON'T GO DOWN THAT ROAD OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S BEST AND EVERYBODY -- WHAT IS BEST IN EVERYBODY ELSE'S PRECINCT. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: I WOULD JUST OFFER THE SUGGESTION THAT IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AN ITEM ON A COLLEAGUE'S AGENDA, INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH ALL OF THIS AT COURT, WHY DON'T YOU PICK UP THE PHONE AND TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE ISSUES.

IT WILL -- I'M SURE IT WILL PREVENT ANY INTENTION OR ANY IDEA THAT -- IF IT IS GOOD FOR YOU, IT WILL BE GOOD FOR ME.

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AND WE ARE GOING TO BE GETTING INTO A WHOLE OTHER AREA THAT IS NON-PRODUCTIVE. I ENCOURAGE US TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. I REMEMBER WHEN YOU PULLED -- WHEN YOU HAD BEEN IN MY PRECINCT AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

I APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE WILLING

TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. >> GOOD CONVERSATION.

I THINK IN SOMEWAYS WE HAVE ONLY JUST BEGUN TO TRANSITION.

THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS YOU WORK WITH THAT I AM NOW SERVING.

THERE IS PROBABLY WE NEED TO GET IN THE ROOM AND HAVE A CONVERSATION. GOOD POINT.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: I APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK THE VOTE WILL BE 3/4 AND TWO ABSTENTIONS.

WE CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? IT WAS TWO AGAINST AND YOU CAN SWITCH THAT TO 3/4 AND TWO ABSTENTIONS.

>> YES, COMMISSIONER WE CAN DO THAT.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: 317. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: AND QUICKLY I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IN THE SPIRIT OF, YOU VOTED AGAINST AN ITEM IN PRY PRECINCT RELATED TO SOMETHING THAT MY EMPLOYEES ARE EXCITED ABOUT. AND SO I WOULD JUST ASK Y'ALL TO BE COMMITTED TO THINK ABOUT THAT VOTE.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TELLING OUR EMPLOYEES --

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: WE'RE NOT TELLING.

IT IS TO HELP OUR EMPLOYEES. SO IF OUR EMPLOYEES -- AND WE HAVE DONE THIS COUNTY WIDE. IF YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE SICK, THEN MY EMPLOYEES CAN DONATE SOME SICK TIME.

THAT'S WHAT THAT PROGRAM IS ABOUT.

NOBODY IS TELLING ANYBODY TO DO IT.

IT IS ALL VOLUNTEER -- VOLUNTARY AND WHEN THEY ARE IN PARTICULAR CONDITIONS. I HAVE DONE THINGS TO HELP MY STAFF AFTER THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME SOME UNEXPECTED HEALTH AND MEDICAL ISSUES AND THIS IS IN SUPPORT AND SOLIDARITY OF MY TEAM. SO I ASK FOR THE SAME

CONSIDERATION. >> R. JACK CAGLE: I'LL LOOK AT IT. I'M NOT PREPARED TO MAKE A CHANGE RIGHT NOW, BUT I'LL LOOK AT IT.

ITEM 317. >> TOM RAMSEY: I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK. I WAS PLEASED PEOPLE CALLED IN TO GIVE A PERSPECTIVE. THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO GET INTO NEGOTIATIONS. I KNOW THE CONVERSATIONS ARE GOING ON AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.

MY SIMPLE POINT HERE IS THERE IS COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND NO MATTER WHAT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WE CONSTRUCT, WHETHER IT WAS ENVISIONED OR IT WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THERE WAS A COST. MY NUMBERS TELL ME IT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

YOU LOOK AT A $7 BILLION PROJECT BASED ON WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THAT'S AT LEAST AT THIS POINT MAYBE NOT QUITE THAT MUCH, BUT WE HAVE BEEN AT THIS 18 MONTHS OR SO.

THAT'S ONE ISSUE. BASED ON TYPICAL TEXDOT CONSTRUCTION, IF WE CONTINUED ALONG THE PATH THAT WE WERE AND IT WAS NOT AGREEABLE, CONSTRUCTION COULD HAVE BEGUN IN 2023 AND I'M NOT SURE -- THAT'S JUST A POINT OF REFERENCE.

I'M NOT SURE WHEN CONSTRUCTION WOULD BEGIN.

IF WE WERE ABLE TO WORKOUT A DEAL, THERE IS THE THINGS JUST TO KEEP IN MIND THAT 2.5 BILLION OF THE PRONG -- PROJECT IS RELATED TO DRAINAGE. OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO GET THAT IN PLACE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN SO IT IS NOT JUST ALL FREEWAY.

IT IS DRAINAGE. THAT'S KIND OF A -- WE ARE INTO IT FOR 18 MONTHS. KWAN SRER SAYINGSES ARE PROCEEDING -- CONVERSATIONS ARE PROCEEDING.

DISCUSSIONS ARE HAD AND EVERYBODY IS STILL AT THE TABLE.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT COULD BE.

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HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET THERE SOON.

THIS WAS JUST MEANT TO GET PERSPECTIVES ON THE TAEUPBL.

I THINK -- ON THE TABLE. I THINK YOU'VE HEARD MY PERSPECTIVE. WE HAVE HAD HEARD SPUR TECH TIFFS FROM -- PERSPECTIVES FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH THE PROJECT TO BEGIN WITH. THEY CALLED IN AND I THINK THAT ALLOWED SOME CONVERSATION PUBLICLY TO BE HAD.

THAT WAS THE POINT AUFT GENERAL TKAU -- POINT OF THE AGENDA

ITEM. >> R. JACK CAGLE: 318.

>> I THINK COMMISSIONER ELLIS WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: COMMISSIONER ELLIS, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, SIR? YOU'RE MUTED.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: I'M SORRY. I WOULD LIKE TO WALK THROUGH THE COST PROJECTIONS AND IT ASSUMES THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT STAYS THE SAME, BUT THE COUNTY AND THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS ARE PUSHING FOR A SMALLER, ARGUABLY CHEAPER PROJECT AND GIVE US SOME THOUGHTS ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT TITLE 6 INVESTIGATIONS STOPPED THE PROJECT. AND IF YOU CAN, GIVE US A SENSE OF COST PROJECTIONS BASED ON ADDED BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY INCLUDING CLEANER AIR FROM VEHICLES IDLING LESS AND MORE CONNECTIVITY OF LOCAL BUSINESSES JUST KIND OF WALK US THROUGH THAT AND GIVE US SOME SENSE OF IF TEXDOT CAN LOOK AT SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR, WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN. AND THE THIRD ONE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW NOW, YOU CAN SEND IT TO US AND IT WOULD MAKE IT PUBLIC, BUT WHAT HAS BEEN THE COST TO THOSE COMMUNITIES IN THE PAST THAT HAVE HAD FREEWAYS RIP THROUGH THEM AND TEAR THEIR LIVES APART, BUT WHAT HAS BEEN THE COST TO THOSE COMMUNITIES?

>> THANKS, COMMISSIONER ELLIS. I WILL BE CAREFUL WHAT I SAY OUTSIDE THE CONTEXT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE WE DO, OF COURSE, HAVE PENDING LITIGATION AND SETTLEMENT DISCUSSIONS, AS YOU KNOW. I DO THINK THAT YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT THAT WHAT THE COUNTY IS PUSHING FOR HERE IS THE SCOPE OF A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE QUITE A BIT SMALLER AND WE -- ONE OF THE SELLING POINTS WE TRY TO GIVE TO TEXDOT IS THAT IT WOULD ACTUALLY HOPEFULLY RESULT IN A -- IN REDUCED COSTS TO TEXDOT AND THE COUNTY BOTH IN TERMS OF COST OF RIGHT OF WAY AND COST OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS. TEXDOT'S PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON GOING AHEAD WITH THE STATUS QUO.

THE PROJECT IS DESIGNED -- THAT'S NOT WHAT THE COUNTY IS TRYING TO DO HERE. WITH RESPECT TO THE OTHER QUESTIONS, WE WOULD NEED TO GO BACK AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH ACCURATE COST PRO -- PROJECTIONS AND WITH RESPECT TO THE HISTORY OF THE HIGHWAYS AND RIPPED APART COMMUNITIES AND IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED THAT AT LEAST 50 OR 60 YEARS AGO THE HIGHWAY BUILT IN THIS COUNTRY DID CUT THROUGH A LOT OF LOWER COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND WE SEE THOSE ISSUES TODAY AND NOT JUST IN HOUSTON. NEW ORLEANS IS A WELL-KNOWN EXAMPLE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

WHEN THEY LOOK AT TITLE 6 COMPLAINTS, THEY DO THAT WITH A VIEW HOPEFULLY TO RECTIFYING THOSE PAST ISSUES.

AND SO WHEN TEXDOT DOES COST PROJECTIONS, THAT'S BASED ON A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN CHALLENGED NOT JUST BY THE COUNTY, BUT BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE SAYING THAT TEXDOT'S COST PROJECTIONS AND TEXDOT'S PROJECT DESIGN IS BASED ON WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW.

IT IS NOT ENTIRELY ACCURATE TO SAY THE PROJECT COULD OR SHOULD

BE MOVING AS IS. >> RODNEY ELLIS: THANK YOU, MR. FOMB HO* -- FOMBONNE, THANK YOU.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: WHEN YOU SAY THE COUNTY YOU ARE SAYING THE COLLECTIVE WILL OF THE COUNTY ON A 3/2 VOTE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RECORD IS CLEAR THAT I WAS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF SUING TEXDOT. I WISH WE WOULD QUIT SUING TEXDOT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS

ISSUE? >> RODNEY ELLIS: YOUR COMMENTS REFLECT THE MAJORITY POSITION THAT HISTORICALLY EVEN WHEN I WAS IN THE MINORITY, THE COUNTY'S POSITION WAS THE MAJORITY, RIGHT? MY POSITION REMAINED MY POSITION

AND NOT THE COUNTY'S POSITION. >> R. JACK CAGLE: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 318.

>> TOM RAMSEY: 318, JWEB. I DON'T KNOW IF I SEE THE -- I CAN SEE THE GENERAL. JUST A QUICK FIVE-MINUTE -- ARE

WE MAKING PROGRESS, GENERAL? >> YES, SIR, WERE A.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: ABSOLUTELY. >> TOM RAMSEY: I WANTED YOU TO

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IN THOSE FORUMSPR WE HAVE BEEN UPDATE ON ALLUS OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVED. BEEN REQUESTE THOSE WERE SOME OF H THE STEPS THATAVE BEEN TAKEN.

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FUTURE STEPS IN TERMS OFID MICROSOFT PROVINGTI THE RECOMMENDAONTH AND PLANNING OSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE

IMPLEMENTED.AG >> R. JACK CLE: ANYTHING

FURTHER? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: SURE.NK MS. MENON, THA YOU AND THANK YOU, GENERAL, FOR YOURO UPDATE.

I WANT TCOMMEND YOU FOR -- YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOTWA SOMETHING THT S NOTN WELL DESIGNED TO BEGI WITH WHEN IT TRANSITIONED FROM GYMS TO JWEB. THERE'S A LOT OF DUCT TAPE AND O BUBBLE GUM STUCKN THAT. AND THE ARCHITECT OF IT,RE OR TE ARCHITECTU WAS FLAWED. AND SO IT REMINDS ME OF THE BELT WAY BRIDGE WHEN I CAME IN AND I HAD ONE THAT COLLAPSED.

IT NEEDS A LOT OF HELP. WE BEGIN TOFF UNDERSTAND THE DIICULTIES IN IT AND MR. RAMOS IDENTIFIED IN HIS PRESENTATIONA THAT HE IS MAKING COMMITMENT TO OUR TECHNOLOGY -- OUR TECHNOLOGY -- ALLBU OF OUR TECHNOLOGY, T IN PARTICULAR THOSE RELATED TO CYBER AND OTHER THINGS BECAUSE LIKE WE FOUND IN JWEB, WE HAD A SWITCH THAT WAS 14 YEARS OLD, I THINK IT WAS?

>> 13GA YEARS. >> ADRIAN RCIA: 13 THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPLACED AROUND SIX OR SEVEN YEARS -- ORAR S*EUBGSZ -- SIX YES AGO I THINK. IT HASN'T BEEN EASY, BUT I APPLAUD WORK. LUCINDA, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN HARRIS COUNTY. YOU ARE VERY TALENTED AND IT IS SHOWING. WE NEED YOUR HELP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND, GENERAL, AS ALWAYS, GRATEFUL FOR YOUR WORK AND LEADERSHIP AS WELL.

THANK Y'ALL. >> THANK YOU. Y

>> TOM RAMSEY: THANKOU FOR THE UPDATE.

I'M ASSUMING OUR PARTNERS ARET ALL EQUALLY OPTIMISTIC A THIS

POINT. >> TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I WILL TELL YOU THAT OUR TECHNICAL WORKING GROUPS ARE -- THEY WORK HAND IN GLOVE ANDWE COMMUNICATE REGULAR. HAD THE SUPPORT OF PERRY TURNER TO HELP FACILITATE AND VISIT WITH THE PRINCIPALS, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND SEVERAL LEADS.

I WOULD REFER TO HIM AND SPEAK TO THAT PROCESS IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATIONS. OUR FOLKS ARE WORKING HAND IN

GLOVE. >> TOM RAMSEY: GOOD.

THANK YOU, GENERAL. >> YES, SIR.GH

>> R. JACK CAGLE: ALL RIT, ITEM -- RODNEY, DID YOU HAVE

QUESTIONS ON THIS, SIR? >> RODNEY ELLIS: NO, SIR, THANK

YOU.19 >> R. JACK CAGLE: ITEM 3.

>> TOM RAMSEY: AND FINALLY HERE THE CHILDREN ASSESSMENT CENTER, HAD THE CHANCE TO SPEND SOME TIME THERE AND THE JOB THEY DO IS TREMENDOUS. I HAD NO IDEA THE SCOPE OF IT.

I HAD NO IDEA OF THE NUMBERS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT ARE WORKING HAND IN GLOVE AND PROVIDING SERVICES FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. IT IS THOSE THAT FIND THEMSELVES IN VIOLENT SITUATIONS AND THE FOLKS THERE DO A GREAT JOB OF TENDING TO THE DETAILS. I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH IT.

SO I ASKED THE SIMPLE QUESTION IN TERMS OF, WELL, WHAT IS TYPICALLY YOUR CASE LOAD AND IT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF NEW CASES 4600 A YEAR AND WE ARE ABLE TO ADDRESS 80 IN A YEAR'S TIME. YOU CAN TELL OVERTIME THAT THERE IS JUST -- OVER TIME THAT THERE ARE A LOT -- A LOT OF NEEDS THERE. I THINK THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING PRIVATE-WISE AND PUBLIC-WISE TO MEET THE NEEDS.

WHEN ASKED IN TERMS OF -- WHEN ASKED IN TERMS OF THEIR BUDGET NEEDS JUST TO GET A SENSE OF IT, AS THEY WENT TO THE BUDGETING PROCESS I THINK THEY GOT ROUGHLY 23% OF WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.

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AGAIN, THEY WEREN'T COMPLAINING. I ASKED FOR THE NUMBER AND THEY GAVE THAT NUMBER. MR. RAMOS, DON'T TAKE THAT AS A CRITICISM. I AM GIVING THAT NUMBER JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE THAT MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO FIND SOME ARPA DOLLARS. I DON'T THINK AT THIS POINT WE HAVE SPENT ARPA DOLLARS WITH THE ASSESSMENT CENTER.

I SIMPLY ASK TODAY IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT.

Y'ALL LOOK AT THAT AND IS THERE ANYTHING IN TERMS OF ARPA DOLLARS THAT COULD BE DONE TO HELP THE CENTER?

>> I UNDERSTAND. I ALSO HAVE A TOUR OVER THERE NEXT WEEK. WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THEIR

BUDGET NEEDS AT THAT TIME. >> AND IF YOU CAN JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU SEE AND WHAT THE POSSIBILITY OF -- I KNOW WE HAVE A BUNCH OF ARPA MONEY LAST WEEK. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF NEEDS.

BUT JUST SEE HOW THAT FITS WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE ARE DOING IN

THE COUNTY. >> I'LL COORDINATE WITH DIRECTOR

BARTON ON THAT.CA >> RODNEY ELLIS: COMMISSIONER GLE? I AM TOLD WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR ARPA. I HEAR FROM PEOPLE ALL OVER THE TIME AND THERE ARE TREMENDOUS NEEDS.

AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW WHEN THE MONEY IS GONE WHAT MORE ARE WE DOING. I THINK WE HEARD THAT THERE IS ANOTHER 500 MILLION THAT THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE HAD.

THERE IS A PROCESS AND I TALK TO PEOPLE EVERY DAY.

THERE IS A TREMENDOUS NEED OUT THERE.

IF THERE IS A PROCESS I SUGGEST WE CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. WE DON'T JUST NECESSARILY PUT ONE UP BECAUSE ONE OF US SAYS IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> AND THEY HAVE ALREADY SENT SOMETHING OVER TO THE TEAM AND THEY ARE WORKING ON IT. IT WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS

TO BE VETTED. >> RODNEY ELLIS: GOOD.

>> I WILL FORWARD IT TO YOU. >> RODNEY ELLIS: THANK YOU.TH

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THAT CONCLUDES E REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS, ITEMS 317, 318 AND 319 WERE DISCUSSION ITEMS. SO NO ADDITIONAL ACTION IS NECESSARY.

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ITEMS 140, 141, 145 AND 212 ARE ITEM THAT'S WE NEED TO VOTE ON.

MR. AYER HAS BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE JUDGE'S OFFICE. WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE FOR THE RECORD THE JUDGE'S POSITION ON US VOTING ON THOSE FOUR ITEMS AT

THIS TIME? >> MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE JUDGE'S OFFICE IS THAT SHE HAS INDICATED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE

FORWARD WITHOUT HER VOTE. >> REAL QUICK, COMMISSIONER, FOR 319, IT SAYS REQUEST BY COMMISSIONER 3 FOR THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO WORK WITH CHILDREN'S ASSESSMENT CENTER TO PROPOSE PROJECTS FOR ARPA FUNDING FOR 319.

>> MY INTERPRETATION IS DISCUSSION AND A GENERAL REQUEST. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE

REQUIRING A VOTE. >> THAT'S IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT COMMISSIONER ELLIS WAS SAYING. WE HAVE A PROCESS TO EVALUATE.

I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT THEY ARE IN THAT PROCESS TO BE

EVALUATED. >> THANK YOU.

JUST WANTED TO KNOW. >> R. JACK CAGLE: DO YOU NEED TO

VOTE? >> I'M FINE.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: 317, 318, 319 WERE DISCUSSION, NO ADDITIONAL ACTION TAKEN. WE ARE NOW READY TO VOTE ON 140,

141, 145 AND 212. >> RODNEY ELLIS: I MAKE A MOTION

ON ALL OF THEM. >> R. JACK CAGLE: COMMISSIONER ELLIS MOVES ON 140, 141, 145 AND 212.

COMMISSIONER RAMSEY SECONDED. MY SPLIT-SECOND RACE BEFORE COMMISSIONER GARCIA. ALL IN FAVOR, VOTE I.

>> I. >> I.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: ALL OPPOSED, NAY? HEARING NONE, 4-0, I. IT PASSES 4-0.

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WE ARE NOW -- WE HAVE REMAINING THE THREE EXECUTIVE ITEMS OF 286, 289 AND 295. IT IS 5:34 AND WE WILL RECONVENE AT 5:40 IN THE BACK FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

COURT IN GENERAL SESSION STANDS ADJOURNED.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: FIRST, MR. CHAIR I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON THIS ITEM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO START FIRST BY THANKING JIM ROBINSON FOR HIS LONG-TIME -- OH, I WILL MOVE ON THIS ITEM AS

PRESENTED. >> TOM RAMSEY: SECOND.

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>> ADRIAN GARCIA: I WASN'T EVEN LOOKING AT THE AGENDA HERE.

295. >> AS PRESENTED IS FINE.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: WHICH ONE IS THAT.

I'M SORRY? IS THIS THE JAIL ONE?

>> TOM RAMSEY: YES. >> RODNEY ELLIS: AND I KNOW IT IS LATE IN THE DAY AND YOU ALL ARE THERE, SO AT THE NEXT COURT

I WOULD LIKE -- >> COMMISSIONER.

>> RODNEY ELLIS: THE CHAIRMAN TO COME IN AND TALK.

I WILL POST THAT FOR TWO WEEKS FOR NOW, MR. TURN -- TURNER.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: WE WILL HAVE DISCUSSION IN TWO WEEKS WHEN IT IS NOT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. THERE IS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER RAMSEY.

ALL IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING 295 AS PRESENTED?

SAY I. >> I.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THOSE UH POIS. I AM AN I AND IT PASSES 4-0.

ON ITEM 286 THE ITEM BEING A REQUEST FOR COMMISSIONER OF PRECINCT 2 FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR APPROVAL OF -- APPOINTMENT TO THE METRO BOARD OF DIRECTORS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY FOR A TERM ENDING JUNE 27TH, 2027,

COMMISSIONER GARCIA. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: YES.

MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON THIS ITEM WITH AN AMENDMENT. FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO MR. ROBINSON FOR HIS LONG-TIME SERVICE ON METRO AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK HIM FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND FOR WORKING TO ENSURE THAT THE INTEREST AND THE CONCERNS OF THE COUNTY HAVE BEEN LOOKED AFTER. YOU CAN SEE HE HAS BEEN AN ASSET OVER THERE AND FOR THAT PURPOSE AND FOR THAT REASON I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THIS ITEM THAT IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JULY 29TH.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION

AS AMENDED? >> RODNEY ELLIS: SECOND.

JACK SKPRABG THERE IS A -- >> R. JACK CAGLE: THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE

AMENDMENT IS? >> YEAH.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: JULY 29TH, 2022.

WILL WE ALSO HAVE THE TERM ENDING CHANGE AS WELL, JAY? THE TERM ENDING IS JUNE 27TH, 24.

IS THAT A FIXED DAY OR DO WE NEED TO MOVE THAT DATE TO ALSO

BEING IN JULY? >> IT IS CALCULATED AS -- IT IS CALCULATED AS A TWO-YEAR TERM FROM THE POINT.

SO IT WOULD BE JULY 28TH. >> R. JACK CAGLE: IS THAT PART

OF YOUR MOTION? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THAT'S PART OF

MY MOTION. >> R. JACK CAGLE: FOR OUR CLERK, WE ARE CHANGING THE LANGUAGE FROM EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY TO JULY 29TH, 2022 FOR A TERM ENDING ON JULY 29TH, 2024.

THAT HAS BEEN MOVED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ELLIS. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I.

>> I. >> I.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: I. ALL OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, PASSES 4-0. ON SUPPLEMENTAL EXECUTIVE ITEM 289, COMMISSIONER GARCIA, YOU HAD SOME COMMENTS THAT YOU WISH

TO MAKE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: YES.

I JUST WANT TO THANK, AND I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES WITH ME, BUT I I JUST WANT TO THANK MY NOMINEE TO THE COMMISSION.

SHE BRINGS A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE.

A VERY BURDENED LADY, BUT SHE HAS BEEN ACTIVE IN THE AREA OF GUN SAFETY, VIOLENCE PREVENTION, SAFETY FOR CHILDREN.

I JUST THINK SHE WILL BE A TREMENDOUS ASSET AND I WANTED TO COMMENT THAT I AM PROUD THAT SHE WOULD BE WILLING TO ALLOW ME TO SUBMIT HER NAME TO SERVE ON THIS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT COMMISSION.

THANK YOU. >> TOM RAMSEY: LET ME ECHO THE COMMISSIONER'S SENTIMENTS. WE JUST CAME UP WITH A GREAT GROUP OF FOLKS. MY NOMINEE, DR. ELIZABETH FAGEN, IS VERY HUMBLE AND HAS HAD EXPERIENCES IN COLORADO AND ALL OF THE ISSUES THERE. IT IS INTERESTING.

WE ALL WENT BACK AND WE HAVE COME BACK I THINK WITH FIVE LADIES TO TRY TO GET THIS ISSUE -- TO TRY TO GET US READY FOR AUGUST. SO WELL DONE, COURT.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: I LIKE DR. FAGEN AND I MISS HER AND I USED TO REPRESENT HER. NO MORE.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: YOU STILL DO. >> R. JACK CAGLE: COUNTY WIDE.

SHE IS AWESOME. BUT I AM ALSO VERY PROUD THE NEW PRECINCT 4 REPRESENTATIVE, LISA WHO IS VERY INVOLVED WITH SPRING

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BRANCH SCHOOLS. WITH THAT IN MIND, WE HAVE ALL SAID OUR UH COMMENDATIONS AND PATTED OURSELVES ON THE BACK FOR OUR APPOINTEES. I THINK THE JUDGE WOULD PAT HERSELF ON THE BACK AS WELL FOR THE APPOINTEE ON THIS ONE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MOVED.

>> NO, NO. YOU DIDN'T VOTE ON --

>> R. JACK CAGLE: WE DIDN'T VOTE ON IT.

ALL IN FAVOR? --

>> AS PRESENTED? >> R. JACK CAGLE: AS PRESENTED.

IS THERE A MOTION? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MOVED.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: IS THERE A SECOND?

>> RODNEY ELLIS: SECOND. >> R. JACK CAGLE: MOVED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ELLIS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY I. >> I JACK JAG ALL OPPOSED --

>> R. JACK CAGLE: ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY.

NOW IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN?

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: SO MOVED. >> R. JACK CAGLE: IS THERE A SECOND? I HAVE TWO MOTIONS AND I HAVE NO

SECOND. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: SECOND.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: ALL IN FAVOR. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: PASSES UNANIMOUS AND THE COURT IS ADJOURNED AT 6:23 P.M.

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