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>> LINA HIDALGO: IT IS 10:03 AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS DECEMBER 17TH MEETING OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO ORDER. COMMISSIONER CAGLE.

>> GOOD MORNING, YOUR HONOR. TODAY WE HAVE PASTOR PAM PALMOUR WITH COPPERFIELD CHURCH. COPPERFIELD CHURCH IS ONE OF OUR PARTNER CHURCHES.

WE HAVE PROGRAMMING INSTEAD OF US ADDING BRICKS AND MORTAR WE HAVE TO PAY FOR WE CAN DO IN THAT AREA. PASTOR PALMOUR IS A MEMBER OF PRECINCT THREE.

THEY ARE ONE OF THOSE BORDER CHURCHES THAT SERVES PRECINCT THREE AND PRECINCT FOUR AND I THINK THEY WOULD SAY WILLING TO SERVE HARRIS COUNTY AND THE WORLD.

JUDGE WE ARE DELIGHTED TO HAVE THEM HERE AND APPRECIATE THEIR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY.

PASTOR PALMOUR? >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CAGLE AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY HERE.

THE COUNTY HAS BEEN MY HOME FOR 31 YEARS AND THE WORK YOU DO IS NOT UN UNNOTICED BY US AS A CHURCH AND AS A COMMUNITY. WOULD YOU PRAY WITH ME? FATHER, FIRST I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE DEVOTEDLY THE COMMUNITY THAT WE LOVE. LORD, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM TREMENDOUS WISDOM THIS DAY AND EVERY DAY AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS AND CONSIDER ISSUES THAT WILL AFFECT MANY.

FATHER WE PRAY FOR FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT THEY WOULD BE STRONG AND THE BACKBONE OF A STRONG COMMUNITY. LORD, WE ASK FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM SAFETY AND WE ARE DEEPLY AWARE OF THOSE WE HAVE LOST, AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD PROTECT, THAT YOU WOULD BRING COMFORT TO THOSE WHO GRIEVE AND PROTECT THOSE WHO SERVE. FATHER, WE PRAY FOR OUR SCHOOLS THAT THEY WOULD BE PLACES WHERE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN ARE RAISED UP TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.

LORD WE ASK FOR YOUR PROTECTION AND YOUR WISDOM THERE.

FOR ALL THAT HAPPENS TODAY, LORD, WE ASK THAT GREAT PEACE WOULD FALL ON THIS ROOM AND IN THIS MOST SACRED OF SEASONS, AND THAT THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE WOULD BE THOSE THAT BENEFIT THE VAST DIVERSITY OF RESIDENTS OF THIS GREAT COUNTY.

WE GIVE YOU GLORY AND PRAISE AND WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BRING ABOUT GOODNESS FOR THOSE WHO ARE SERVED BY THIS GREAT COMMISSIONER'S COURT. LORD FOR THEIR HEART FOR THESE

PEOPLE WE GIVE YOU THANKS IN THE NAME OF JESUS AMEN. >> AMEN.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND FOR YOUR WORDS.

SO BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE RESOLUTION I WANT TO WELCOME FOLKS TO THE FINAL MEETING OF

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THIS YEAR. WE HAVE HAD 22 REGULAR MEETINGS OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT. I DO WANT TO THANK EVERYONE AT THE COUNTY WHO HAS BEEN WORKING SO HARD ALL YEAR TO MAKE GREAT PROGRESS HAPPEN AT WORK EVERY DAY.

I KNOW APATHY TOWARD GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO GROW. THE WAY WE COUNTER THAT IS SHOWING THAT GOVERNMENT CAN WORK AND DOES WORK, AND WE DO THAT WITH -- ONLY BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT FOLKS AT THE COUNTY ARE DOING. SO WE WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HELPED MAKE THIS YEAR A SUCCESS. I ALSO WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL OF THE FOLKS WHO HAVE COME TO COURT TO SPEAK. I KNOW WE HAVE SPEAKERS TOO HAD AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE HAVE HAD OVER 700 PEOPLE COME AND SPEAK AND HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR IT WILL BE LESS INCONVENIENT AND WE WILL BEGIN WORKING TOWARD THE BIGGER COURTROOM, BUT SO FAR IT HAS BEEN A JOY TO HEAR FROM ALL OF THE SPEAKERS AND TO HEAR THEIR PERSPECTIVES AND SEE THEM PARTICIPATE AND KNOW THAT WE DON'T FORGET THAT WE WORK FOR YOU. THANKS EVERYONE FOR A SUCCESSFUL YEAR.

>> JUDGE I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR FIRST YEAR.

IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT HAS BEEN A YEAR. THE TIME HAS FLOWN.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO DO THESE THREE WEEKS WITHOUT ALL OF YOU.

I WILL THINK ABOUT YOU. I WILL CALL YOU INDIVIDUALLY. THAT IS MY RESOLUTION TO HELP START THE NEW YEAR OFF ON A POSITIVE NOTE. DON'T BLOCK MY PHONES.

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I HOPE TO REACH OUT TO EACH ONE OF YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: IT HAS BEEN GREAT TO WORK TOGETHER THIS YEAR. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE

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RESOLUTIONS. FIRST IS A RETIREMENT THAT WE ARE CELEBRATING THIS PERSON'S WORK AND THAT ONE IS MINE SO IT IS SHEILA CARRIS WHO IS RETIRING AFTER MORE THAN 30 YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE HARRIS COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR.

MRS. HARRIS JOINED HARRIS COUNTY IN 1989 AS A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE IN THE AUTOMOBILE DIVISION. SHE HAS SUPPORTED VOTERS. SHE'S BEEN A TEAM PLAYER.

SHE TALKS ABOUT HER FOLKS IN THE TAX OFFICE AS AMAZING PEOPLE.

SHE FEELS SHE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK FOR A HISTORY MAKING COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR BENNETT. SHE HAS GREAT PLANS FOR RETIREMENT, TO SPEND TIME WITH HER GRANDCHILDREN AND TRAVEL AND GET INVOLVED IN HER COMMUNITY AND CHURCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MRS. HARRIS , FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AND CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

ME TO BE ABLE TO RETIRE FOR THE HARRIS COUNTY TAX OFFICE. I CAME HERE TODAY BECAUSE I FELT THIS WAS AN HONOR TO COME BEFORE THE COUNTY JUDGE AND THE COMMISSIONER AND TOE -- AND TO THANK GOD TO ALLOW ME TO WORK FOR THE HARRIS COUNTY TAX OFFICE.

THERE ARE GREAT THINGS HAPPENING WITH THE HARRIS COUNTY TAX OFFICE AND THE WHOLE HARRIS COUNTY COMMUNITY. I THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS TIME

TODAY. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

>> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER? >> I HAVE ONE FOR JUDGE VALENCIA HEINZ.

SHE SERVED HARRIS COUNTY AND PRECINCT ONE WITH DEDICATION FOR 26 YEARS.

SHE JOINED HARRIS COUNTY JUVENILE PROBATION DEPARTMENT IN MARCH OF 1993 AS A CLERK AND SUPPORT SERVICES AND HER PROMOTION TO NEW ROLES AND OPPORTUNITIES FIRST AS AN EMPLOYEE HEALTH BENEFITS COORDINATOR AND HUMAN RESOURCES AND RISK MANAGEMENT AND THEN AS A SAFETY WELLNESS AND EMERGENCY PLANNING COORDINATOR FOR PRECINCT 1.

SHE SERVED IN SAFETY, WELLNESS AND EMERGENCY PLANNING SINCE 2001 WITH ENTHUSIASM AND DEDICATION. SHE WORKED WITH PRECINCT 1 COLLEAGUES AND ENJOYED A HEALTHY WORK ENVIRONMENT. SHEEN -- SHE EDUCATED EMPLOYEES IN THE WORKERS COMPENSATION ROLES. WE WILL MISS HER DEEPLY AND SHE WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR HER ENTHUSIASM AND PASSION FOR THE JOB AND HER CARE AND SENSITIVITY TO COLLEAGUES AND ARE IN NEED OF HER ASSISTANCE AND CALM DEMEANOR. EVEN WITH DEALING WITH A NEW AND DIFFICULT COMMISSIONER TO COLLEAGUES AND THE ASSISTANCE AND WE WILL DO A GREAT -- SHE WILL DO A GREAT JOB. SHE IS FAR TOO YOUNG TO RETIRE.

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. I WANT TO SAY TO YOU, JUDGE HIDALGO, WELCOME TO THE COMMISSIONERS, ELLIS, GARCIA, RADACK IN HIS ABSENCE AND CAGLE, IT HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO COME WORK HERE FOR HARRIS COUNTY. I HAVE A 10 PLUS YEAR BACKGROUND IN INSURANCE, AND DURING THAT TIME THERE WAS A LOT OF LAYOFFS GOING ON.

HARRIS COUNTY WAS MENTIONED TO ME TO BE AN EMPLOYER. I THANK GOD FOR THAT PERSON MENTIONING THAT TO ME. ACTUALLY IT WAS MY BROTHER. AS YOU HEARD I WORKED IN SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS WHERE I HAVE MOVED UP IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE BEING OF SERVICE TO THE EMPLOYEES OF PRE SINK 1 AND THE -- PRECINCT 1 AND THE CONSTITUENTS. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE LATE L FRANK -- FRANK OWE LEE BECAUSE I WAS UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP FOR 18 YEARS. IT IS A PLEASURE.

THAT IS WHO I AM. I CARE FOR THE EMPLOYEES AND THE CONSTITUENTS OF PRECINCT 1 AND ALL CONSTITUENTS. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY GOD BLESS EACH ONE OF YOU AND CONTINUE TO FURTHER THE BUSINESS OF HARRIS COUNTY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JUDGE. I HAVE GOT A RESOLUTION THAT

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IS VERY SPECIAL TO ME. I HAVE SEEN -- WHERE ARE YOU, IZZY? J -- WHY DON'T YOU MAKE YOUR WAY UP HERE. I HAVE SEEN THIS YOUNG MAN JUST LEAD WITH HIS HEART. IT IS FOR A WHOLE LOT OF YEARS.

NAVY, RIGHT? NAVY. INCREDIBLE BASEBALL PLAYER.

CARRIED A GUN AND A BADGE. NEVER LOST SIGHT OF HIS ROOTS AND NEVER LOST SIGHT I WOULD SAY OF THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU HAD. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE OTHERS HAVE THEM AS WELL. AND SO THIS RESOLUTION IS IN THIS SPIRIT.

IT IS REALLY WHERE THE SPIRIT OF THE SEASON WE ARE IN. WHEREAS EACH YEAR SINCE 19 852,000 AREA CHILDREN RECEIVE -- SINCE 1985, 2,000 AREA CHILDREN RECEIVE BOOKS AND THEY HOLD A CHRISTMAS PROGRAM IN HOUSTON. WHEREAS THIS TRADITION OF GIVING BEGAN WHEN IZZY WORKED -- HE IS A GREAT GOLFER.

CHEATS A LOT, BUT GREAT GOLFER. WHEN HE WORKED AS A HOUSTON POLICE OFFICER SERVING RIP -- RIPLEY HOUSE IN PRECINCT 2 AND VOLUNTEERED TO WORK AT A HOLIDAY PARTY. THIS LEAD THE RETIRED HOUSTON POLICE OFFICER -- ALTHOUGH YOU CREATED THE NONPROFIT WHEN YOU WERE STILL WITH HPD, RIGHT? HE DEDICATED HIMSELF TO BRINGING HOLIDAY JOY AND IMPROVING THE LIVES OF UNDER PRIVILEGED CHILDREN IN THE HOUSTON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. WHEREAS THE ANNUAL EVENT SPREADS CHEER TO PROVIDING LUNCH AND ENTERTAINMENT AND GIFTS WITH A VISIT FROM PANCHO CLAUSE-CLAUS AND LIFE LESSONS ASKING EVERYONE TO BRING ONE CAN OF FOOD TO THE EVENT WHERE THEY SEE THEIR DONATION BEING SENT TO THE HOUSTON FOOD BANK.

WHEREAS AN ESSAY CONTEST PROVIDES THE CHILDREN WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO WIN ADDITIONAL GIFTS LIKE BICYCLES AND GIFT CARDS. THEY HOLD MANY ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND BUILDS RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE CHILDREN AND THE VOLUNTEERS AND AREA LAW ENFORCEMENT. I CAN SEE CHRIS OVER THERE.

YOU RETIRED, RIGHT? WE ARE SAFER NOW. WHEREAS IN RECENT YEARS HE HELD SIMILAR EVENTS IN LAREDO AND SAN ANTONIO AND MEXICO. HE SEEKS TO EXPAND TO THEIR OWN BUILDING HOUSING AND A FOOD PANTRY RESOURCE CENTER AND FOOD BANK.

LET ME JUST SAY -- I WILL SHARE THE STORY FOR YOU AND EVERY CHILD GIVES A WISH LIST. THAT WISH LIST IS FILLED EXACTLY AS THE CHILD LAYS OUT. AND ONE CHILD SAT THERE WITH HIS GIFTS AND WHILE EVERYBODY ELSE IS RIPPING THE TOYS OPEN, THEIR BOXES AND THE PACKAGES OPEN, RIPPING THE WRAPPINGS OFF, AND SO ONE OFFICER GOES OVER AND ENCOURAGES THE KID GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT.

SOMEBODY ELSE NOTICED IT. FINALLY IZZY NOTICED HIM. AND AFTER THREE ATTEMPTS TO GET THIS KID TO OPEN UP HIS GIFTS THEY SAY WHY AREN'T YOU OPENING THEM? HE SAYS IF I OPEN THEM TODAY, I WON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO OPEN ON CHRISTMAS.

AND SO THIS IS THE IMPACT YOU HAVE BEEN HAVING FOR SO MANY YEARS, IZZY.

I'M PROUD OF YOU. YOU ARE THE EPITOME OF WHAT OUR AREA LAW ENFORCEMENT IS

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LIKE. DOING SO MANY THINGS QUIETLY AND OUT OF SIGHT OR SUPPORTING YOU AND GIVING THROUGH YOUR ORGANIZATION AND SO MANY OTHERS.

WHEN YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET INVOLVED IN THE UNION AND YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET INVOLVED IN OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES, YOU SAID NO.

THIS IS -- I UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO AND YOU DEDICATED -- YOU LITERALLY DEDICATED YOUR LIFE TO DOING THIS. LET IT BE KNOWN THAT YOU DON'T DOUGH -- YOU DON'T DO IT ALONE. I DON'T SEE MARTA, BUT YOU DON'T DO IT ALONE. YOU DO IT AS A FAMILY AND YOUR KIDS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE SAME SPIRIT. I AM HONORED TO PRESENT THIS PROCLAMATION AT TODAY'S COMMISSIONER'S COURT IN YOUR HONOR WHO DOES SO MUCH AND HAVE DONE IT FOR SO MANY YEARS. CON -- CONGRATULATIONS, IZZY.

>> I HAVE ALL OF THESE NOTES MY WIFE GAVE ME. YOUNG MAN, THANK YOU.

HE MATE -- HE MET ME WHEN I HAD BLACK HAIR. >> COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR THIS GREAT HONOR. THE BEST THING IS PEOPLE WILL HEAR ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. IF I MAY INTRODUCE OUR BOARD MEMBERS, MARY CLAWSON WITH US FOR 25 YEARS AND CHRIS, MY OLD PARTNER AND HIS LOVELY WIFE, YVETTE. THANK YOU FOR COMING WITH US. WE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND OUR FOCUS WILL REMAIN UNTIL GOD ALLOWS US TO FOCUS ON CHILDREN AND FAMILIES AND MAKE SURE THEY DON'T LOSE HOPE. THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.

ADRIAN AND I CALL YOU ADRIAN WITH NO DISRESPECT. YOU ARE A BROTHER.

WHEN YOU WERE A POLICE OFFICER YOU HELPED US AND WHEN YOU WERE A COW -- COUNCIL MEMBER YOU HELPED US. WHEN YOU WERE A SHERIFF YOU OPENED THE DOORS FOR THE INMATES AND THEIR CHILDREN. WHEN I WAS A COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU FOR NOT FORGETTING ABOUT US. I AM OVER HERE AND SHAKING AND EVERYTHING AND IT IS AWESOME.

THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DO. WE ARE BLESSED THAT GOD HAS ALLOWED US TO BE HERE THIS LONG. WE PRAY FOR YOU ALL FOR THE JOB YOU DO.

MERRY CHRISTMAS. >> MERRY CHRISTMAS. IZZY, WHAT IS THE WEBSITE IN

CASE FOLKS WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH YOU? >> OUR WEBSITE IS

NAVIDADNAVARO.ORG. >> AND MARY CLAUSNER. MARY IS ONE OF THOSE INTERESTING PEOPLE. SHE IS NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, BUT SHE IS A RETIRED HARRIS COUNTY -- NO. OH YOU ARE STILL WORKING? GOD BLESS YOU.

29 YEARS, BUT WITH HARRIS COUNTY JUVENILE PROBATION. THERE IS PROBABLY NOT A PICTURE OF ANY SIGNIFICANT PERSON, ELECTED OFFICIAL, PRESIDENT EMPEROR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM LEAVING OUT, KING THAT MARY HAS NOT HAD A PICTURE WITH.

SO WHATEVER CAMERA SHE USES, WE ALL NEED TO GET UH HOLD OF IT.

MARY, GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> I FORGOT MY WIFE. WE HAD A PTO MEETING THIS MORNING SO SHE WENT THAT WAY AND I WENT THIS WAY OR SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER CAGLE HAS AN ITEM AS WELL. >> YES, YOUR HONOR.

WE HAVE TWO RESOLUTIONS THIS MORNING. THE FIRST IS FOR ANOTHER RETIREE AND THAT IS MARK ABELS, MR. ABELS. DO YOU WANT TO STAND NEXT TO HIM? COME ON DOWN THERE. MARK ABELS HAS BEEN THE PRECINCT 4 PROJECT COORDINATOR FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS NOW. HE IS RETIRING ON DECEMBER 31ST SO WILL -- SO WE WILL BEGIN THE NEW YEAR WITHOUT HIM AFTER 29 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO HARRIS COUNTY. HE BEGAN HIS CAREER IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IN APRIL OF 1990 IN THE TRAFFIC DIVISION AS A PROJECT MANAGER DESIGNING TRAFFIC SIGNAL PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR ALL OF THE PRECINCTS IN HARRIS COUNTY. HE BECAME A PROJECT MANAGER IN 1997 WHERE HE FOCUSED ON MANAGEMENT AND DESIGN. AND THEN IN 2001 HE WENT TO PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS. IN 2010 IS WHEN WE GOT HIM IN PRECINCT 4 WHERE HE HAS ALMOST 10 YEARS BEEN SERVING US THERE. HE SAYS HE IS LOOKING FORWARD TO TRAVELING WITH HIS LOVELY BRIDE, MARY. I CAN SEE WHY.

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HE WANTS TO SPEND QUALITY TIME WITH BOTH OF THEIR ADULT CHILDREN, ERIC AND ANDREA.

I GOT THEIR NAMES OUT THERE FOR YOU. HE WANTS TO CONTINUE HIS FAVORITE HOBBIES OF HUNTING AND COLLECTING OLD WILD WEST GUNS AND HAS QUITE A DELIGHT IN ATTENDING CLASSIC COUNTRY MUSIC CONCERTS AND RETREATING TO A PLACE IN GROVETON, TEXAS WHERE THEY CAN WATCH ALL 15 CARS PASS BY ON A GIVEN DAY. HE IS MOVING FROM THE 1.4 MILLION RESIDENTS OF PRECINCT 4 AND THEIR TRAFFIC ISSUES TO THESE 15 CARS PER DAY. MARK, YOU HAVE DONE A FABULOUS JOB AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND CONGRATULATIONS.

VERY MUCH FOR THE RESOLUTION. IT IS REALLY AN HONOR. I HAVE ENJOYED SERVING ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS. I THINK COMMISSIONER RADDACK WAS THE ONLY ONE HERE WHEN I CAME ON BOARD. SOME OF YOUR STAFF I KNOW WELL.

USED TO DEAL WITH WALT. VERY MUCH APPRECIATED AND THERE AGAIN I ENJOYED SERVING ALL OF THE CONSTITUENTS AND THE PRECINCTS. JOHN, I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO ALLOW ME TO DO MY JOB AND SERVE THE PRE SINKS -- PRECINCTS, SERVE THE CONSTITUENTS. PRECINCT 4 GOES WITHOUT SAYING. THE LAST 10 YEARS HAVE BEEN VERY SPECIAL.

COMMISSIONER CAGLE, WE SAT DOWN AND TALKED ONE DAY WHEN YOU CAME IN.

I SAID THEN THAT I FELT LIKE PRECINCT 4 WAS THE GOLD STANDARD FOR TAKING CARE OF THE RESIDENTS AND THE CONSTITUENTS AND THE WAY YOU MAINTAIN THE PARKS AND THE ROAD AND I STILL FEEL THAT WAY TODAY. YOUR STAFF IS SECOND TO NONE.

YOU HAVE ALWAYS MADE ME FEEL LIKE A PRECINCT 4 FAMILY FROM DAY ONE.

I WILL MISS THAT. I WILL MISS YOU GUYS. I WILL MISS SERVING THE RESIDENTS, BUT THE TRAFFIC COUNT GETS UP TO 30 CARS I MAY PUT IT UP FOR SALE.

I WILL NOT MISS THE I10 GRIDLOCK TRAFFIC. HOW ABOUT THAT? THE PEOPLE I WILL MISS. IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE AND AN HONOR AND I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING SOME TRAVELING WITH MARY AND GET SOMETHING DOWNTIME. WE'LL MISS YOU GUYS.

>> THEY SERVE ALL FIRST RESPONDERS BY OFFERING SERVICES OF SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. THE GROUP WAS FOUNDED DECEMBER OF 1998 AND THEY BECAME A NONPROFIT CORPORATION THROUGH TEXAS IN 2000 AND THEY PROVIDE EMERGENCY CHAPLAIN SERVICES TO THE EMS AND THE FIRE AND THE PARAMEDICS AND THE POLICE AGENCIES. BASICALLY WHEN THINGS GO DOWN, THEY WILL BE DOWN THERE TO HELP FOLKS WITH THE SITUATION. THEY PROVIDE SPECIALIZED CHAPLAINS AND TRAINING FOR CHRONIC STRESS, POST TRAUMATIC STRESS, ANXIETY, DEPRESSION, RELATIONSHIP ISSUES AND THEY COME ALONGSIDE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WHO EXPERIENCE EXTRAORDINARY LIFE EVENTS DAILY AND THEY OFFER THEM EMOTIONAL AND SPIRITUAL SUPPORT AND SERVICES SUCH AS PEER SUPPORT CREATING A SAFE PLACE TO OPENLY DISCUSS.

THAT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY FOR POKES WHEN YOU ARE THE TOUGH FIRST RESPONDER TO OPEN UP.

YOU ARE THERE TO PROVIDE THAT AVENUE FOR THEM. THEY HAVE WORN THE BADGE AND ARE ACQUAINTED WITH THE SACRIFICES OF FIRST RESPONDERS AND PROVIDE CHAPLAINS ON THE SCENE AND BEHIND THE SCENES WITH AN EMPHASIS ON CRITICAL INCIDENT STRESS ISSUES.

THEREFORE HARRIS COUNTY RECOGNIZES AND COMMENDS THE CHAPLAIN GROUP.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.

>> AS COMMISSIONER CAGLE SAID WE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 20 YEARS.

OUR MOTTO IS THEY HELP YOU AND THEN WE HELP THEM. WE ARE ASKED SO MANY TIMES HOW DO YOU DO THAT JOB AS POLICEMEN AND AS FIRE AND AS EMS AND ALL OF OUR CHAPLAINS HAVE BEEN ONE OF THOSE AT ONE TIME. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK MAKES US UNIQUE. I WAS A PARAMEDIC FOR 18 YEARS MYSELF.

WE ARE ALSO THE FIRST RESPONDERS TO THE PTSD OF AMERICA.

WE ARE A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RESPONSE UNIT. NOT EVERYONE CAN DO THIS WORK. IN OUR LINE IT IS COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND OTHERS WHO KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE TRAUMATIC THINGS WE SEE, HEAR AND SMELL.

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YOU GET AROUND FAMILY MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORS AND THEY GO,ING EW, DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT, I CAN'T STAND THAT. I I COULD NEVER DO THAT, BUT I'M GLAD YOU CAN.

WE DO FEEL LIKE IT IS A CALLING. THOSE WHO GET INTO THE FIRST RESPONDER BUSINESS. NOT EVERYONE CAN DO. IT THEY DO AND WE SEE OUR JOB IS TO HELP SUPPORT THEM AND STAY IN THE JOB A HEALTHY WAY EMOTIONALLY AS LONG AS THEY

DESIRE TO SERVE. >> WE DON'T GET INTO THIS FOR THE RECOGNITION.

WE WANT TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES AND SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HELPING OTHERS.

WE THANK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER

GARCIA HAS WORDS FOR YOU GUYS AS WELL. >> HEY, GUYS.

LET ME JUST SAY THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WORKED HARD TO DO IS TO GET YOU IN AS MANY PATROL CARS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UNFORTUNATELY, BUT FORTUNATELY THERE ARE MANY OCCASIONS WHEN THANK GOD YOU WERE IN THE PATROL CAR AND HELPING THE DEPUTIES AS WELL AS THE VICTIMS. SO VERY GRATEFUL FOR PROVIDING THAT CALM HAND AND THAT VERY STRONG HEART AND THAT VERY SOFT VOICE. THANK YOU GUYS. NEVER FORGET WHAT YOU'VE

DONE. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. LET'S TAKE SOME PICTURES WITH THE HONOREES.

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>> YOU HAVE ME STUCK OVER HERE WITH JJ AND HE KEEPS BUMPING ME WITH HIS CAST.

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>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO PAGE 31 COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 2 HAS

ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT ITEM. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE. AS MANY WILL RECALL I PROPOSED TO RENAME THE CJC FOR DALIWAL AND ALL HE REPRESENTED. MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY SPOKE UP AND I HEARD WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY. NOW -- I LISTENED TO IT.

I CONTEMPLATED ABOUT IT AND I WAS CHALLENGED BY MY COLLEAGUE HERE TO THINK BIGGER ABOUT HOW TO HONOR SAN -- SAN DEEP DHALIWAL. IT WILL MAKE SENSE FOR HIS LEGACY THAT THE STRETCH OF ROAD THAT, NUMBER ONE, INCLUDES THE SIKH NATIONAL CENTER AND IT WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HE PATROLLED AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD HE LIVED IN. IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THAT CARRY THE MEMORIAL DESIGNATION TO BE TITLED DEPUTY SAN DEEP S.DHALIWA MEMORIAL TOLLWAY.

AND SO THAT IS THE ITEM I AM PROPOSING. I KNOW WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK ON, THIS BUT I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR INPUT ON THIS.

IT HELPED TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHERE TOMORROW WE WILL BE HONORING THE LIFE OF ANOTHER FALLEN OFFICER, RECENTLY SERGEANT BREWSTER AND SERGEANT SULLIVAN.

EVERYBODY MAKES AN INCREDIBLE CONTRIBUTION. SANDEEP FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS CONTRIBUTED IN MANY WAYS ASIDE FROM HIS SERVICE. JUDGE, THIS IS THE ITEM I

PROPOSE. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. YOU, COMMISSIONER ELLIS.

RODRIGUEZ. >> RODNEY ELLIS: I WANT TO COMEPPED YOU AND -- COMMEND YOU AND I THINK IT IS SOMETHING HIS FAMILY WILL APPRECIATE AND IT WILL PROVIDE

ALL OF US WITH THE SACRIFICE HE MADE. >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER

CAGLE. >> R. JACK CAGLE: JUDGE, I AM READY WHEN I SAY THAT I WILL DISAGREE AND I WILL SAY WHEN I DO AGREE. THERE ARE MULTIPLE ERRORS TO WHERE THIS PARTICULAR MOTION I THINK IS A BLESSING. FIRST OF ALL IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PRECINCT 4, AND SO I AM GLAD OF THAT AND IT IS A LOCATION THAT IS GOOD.

JUDGE, WE TRIED TO STRIVE WITH JOHN'S OFFICE TO HAVE ONE ROAD WITH ONE NAME, AND BY HAVING THE SAM HOUSTON HIGHWAY HAVE A MEMORIAL DESIGNATION, YOU DON'T MESS IT UP FOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS TRYING TO GET SOMEPLACE. THE TECH ANYTHING CAL ADDRESS WILL BE -- TECHNICAL ADDRESS WILL BE THERE, BUT THE MEMORIAL WILL BE THERE TO HONOR WHO WE WANT TO. IN HONORING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WE DON'T SAY, YOU WILL MAKE IT HARD FOR ME TO MAKE THAT NEXT CALL. SO IT IS REALLY A NICE FEATURE THAT DOVE TAILS WITH THE FIRST RESPONDER COMMISSION. I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA THAT AFTER WE DO THIS TODAY I AM GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE LOOK AT -- WE HAVE HAD 59 FALLEN OFFICERS THAT ARE HARRIS COUNTY OFFICERS AND THERE IS 103 MILES OF THE SAM HOUSTON THAT WE CAN GO BACK IN TIME AND SAY SOME OF OUR OTHER FALLEN OFFICERS AND SAY YOU ARE NOT FORGOTTEN EITHER. AND YOU CAN DO THAT DESIGNATION.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA. I DON'T LIKE ALL OF YOUR IDEAS, BUT I LIKE THIS ONE.

>> NOR DO I LIKE YOURS. AND LET ME JUST SAY THAT, JUDGE, I I KNOW WHEN YOU UH-HUH SUMMED THIS ROLE -- WHEN YOU ASSUMED THIS ROLE YOU TOOK IT WITH THE SPIRIT OF BEING A CHANGE AGENT. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND AND THANK COMMISSIONER CAGLE FOR

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HIS SUPPORT IN THIS ITEM. YOU'RE RIGHT. IN FACT I LOOK AT THE HPD MEMORIAL -- IZZY IS NOT HERE ANYMORE, BUT I LOST TRACK OF HOW MANY OF THOSE HOUSTON POLICE OFFICERS I PERSONALLY KNEW AND WORKED WITH. AT LAST COUNT WHEN I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL I THINK THE NUMBER WAS I THINK 24 TOTAL THAT HAD DIED IN MY CAREER.

MORE THAN HALF WERE PEOPLE I PERSONALLY WORKED WITH. I DON'T THINK THERE IS ENOUGH WE CAN DO. IT IS GOOD TO BE A CHANGE AGENT.

I AM GLAD THAT PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE.

>> AND JUDGE WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE ROSENTHAL HERE AND WE WILL PROBABLY NEED HIS HELP. TECHNICALLY THE SAM HOUSTON -- EVEN THOUGH IT IS UNDER THE HECTIC EYE IT IS A STATE ROAD AND WE WILL NEED THEIR HELP TO DO THIS.

SINCE HE IS HERE TO SPEAK, I THINK, ON BEHALF OF IT, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THAT HELP.

AND THEN ALSO IN THAT PRAGUE -- PROCESS OF BEING PARTNERS WITH THE STATE ON THIS PROJECT, AND EVERYBODY LIKES IT WHEN THE STATE AND THE LOCAL ARE WORKING TOGETHER, WE ALSO HAVE UNDERWAY IN COMMISSIONER RADACC -- RADACK'S PRECINCT A POST OFFICE THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DESIGNATED TO DHALIWAL.

I HAVE NOT COMMUNICATED WITH Y'ALL ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING COMMISSIONER RADACK'S OFFICE IS LOOKING INTO. SO TO THE EX -- EXTENT YOU HAVE ANY INFLUENCE WITH THAT OFFICE WE WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. REPRESENTATIVE ROSENTHAL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? AND THEN I KNOW WE HAVE MANFREETSINGH HERE TO SPEAK AS

WELL. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.

I AM JOHN ROSEN THOLE AND THE -- ROSEN -- ROSENTHAL. MY AREA IS DOWN THE MIDDLE OF PRECINCTS 3 AND 4. I DON'T NEED TO SING THE ACCOLADES OF DEPUTY DHALIWAL BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT HIM, BUT I WILL ANYWAY. HE WAS A TRUE TRAILBLAZER.

HE WAS A REAL HERO. HE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY CASE AND CAME FROM THE DISTRICT THAT I NOW CALL HOME. THIS IS A GENTLEMAN WHO BROUGHT PEOPLE TOGETHER.

HE IS -- HE WAS A UNIFIER. HE WAS THE FIRST TO WEAR THE TURBINE OF THE SIKH FAITH AND THE FACIAL HAIR. MY UNDERSTANDING IS HIS MOTIVATION WAS TO SPREAD UNDERSTANDING OF THE FAITH. IT IS A LOVING FAITH. THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST SWEET, REFER -- REVERENT ON THE PLANET AND HE WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH HIS COLLEAGUES AND THE COMMUNITY. HE WAS DRIVEN BY THIS CALLING TO LEAVE A LUCRATIVE PRIVATE ENTERPRISE THAT HE RAN. HE LEFT THAT TO SERVE OUR HARRIS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. HE WAS ALREADY GIVING OF HIMSELF TO DO THIS.

HE WAS A UNIFIER AND HE USED HIS POSITION TO JUST SPREAD LOVE AND KNOWLEDGE AND HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE SIKH FAITH. THEY ARE ONE OF THE INVISIBLE COMMUNITIES WE HAVE. THERE IS QUITE A LARGE SIKH COMMUNITY IN MY AREA.

HE WAS REALLY A HERO. HE WAS DEVOTED TO PUBLIC SERVICE.

AFTER HURRICANE MARIA HE TRAVELED TO PUERTO RICO TO HELP THEM.

AFTER HURRICANE HARVEY HE WORKED WITH THE SIKH AGENCY TO BRING TRUCKLOADS TO THE FIRST RESPONDERS HERE. I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THIS MAN WHO EMBODIED ALL THAT IS GOOD. IT BRINGS MY HEART JOY TO SEE THE COMMISSIONER SUPPORT UNIFYING AND RENAMING THE SAM HOUSTON TOLLWAY. THAT PART OF THE SAM HOUSTON TOLLWAY GOES BY THE JERSEY VILLAGE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE HE WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL.

THAT'S WHERE MY DAUGHTER WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL. IT'S SUPER APPROPRIATE AND IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO COME HERE AND ADVOCATE FOR THIS TO MEMORIALIZE HIS NAME AND TO INSPIRE OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS. COULDN'T THINK OF A BETTER DAY

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TO DO IT. IT IS AWESOME AND PRIVILEGED AND I WANT TO SPEND MY LAST FIVE SECONDS TO WISH YOU ALL HAPPY HOLIDAYS AND A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND THANK YOU

FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. >> THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO

MUCH. IS MANFRIT-SINGH? >> GOOD MORNING.

AS A NATIVE HOUSTONIAN I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

ON BEHALF OF THE SIKH COMMUNITY AND DHALIWAL'S FAMILY SEEING YOU AT THE FUNERAL AND THE VIGIL AND HAVING YOUR SUPPORT HAS BEEN MEANINGFUL IN RECOGNIZING HIM.

I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION SHERIFF GONZALEZ AND HIS LEADERSHIP IN THIS TRYING TIME FOR US. AS MENTIONED I KNOW WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THIS ONE SECTION WOULD BE TO US AS A COMMUNITY AND RESIDENTS.

THAT WAS THE COMMUNITY HE WATTS -- THAT HE WAS LIVING IN AND THE COMMUNITY HE WAS PATROLLING. I BELIEVE IT NOT ONLY REPRESENTS WHAT HE WAS DOING, BUT REPRESENTS HIS LEGACY TO GO ON. TO INCORPORATE THE 249 AND 290 CORRIDOR AND REMEMBERING HIM SO WHEN WE DRIVE BY WE CAN SEE DEPUTY DHALIWAL CORRIDOR, IT WILL FEEL LIKE HE IS STILL SERVING US AND OUR COMMUNITY. MAYBE I AM BEING TOO AMBITIOUS BY SAYING THANK YOU IN ADVANCE , BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT. IF WE COULD HAVE THIS PASS IT WOULD MEAN THE MOST TO US.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COUNSEL AND BEING A THOUGHT LEADER IN THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS. WE WORKED TOGETHER SINCE MY

DAYS ON CITY COUNCIL. >> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE, BUT I HAVE TO SAY YOU ARE TRUE PUBLIC SERVANTS. WE APPRECIATE YOU. AND YOU HAVE ACTED ON THE THINGS WE ARE ASKING FOR. I CONTINUE -- CONTINUALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE

COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY WITH THE HELP YOU HAVE DONE FOR US. >> AND JUST KNOW THAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR A POLICY -- AN ACCOMMODATION POLICY FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS AND WE ARE HOPING THAT THE INDEPENDENT ELECTED OFFICIALS WILL ALSO EMBRACE IT AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU AGAIN. THAT DEFINITELY DESERVES ACCOLADES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER CAGLE. >> R. JACK CAGLE: IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE AS A JUDGE I HAD TO COME ACROSS THIS LAWYER IN THE PAST.

>> AND HELLO, JUDGE AND JUDGE. >> R. JACK CAGLE: SHE IS A

GOOD LAWYER, JUDGE. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER GARCIA FOR ENCOURAGING THE CHANGE IN POLICY.

I THINK IT SHOWS -- IT IS A TANGIBLE STEP AND IT IS A MESSAGE OF TOLERANCE AND YOU

CAN GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DIGEST IT. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER -- GO AHEAD. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR BRINGING THIS. IT IS FITTING AND IMPORTANT. COMMISSIONER ELLIS? WE ARE GOING TO TAKE UP THE ITEM PRECINCT 1 ON PAGE 30 ALONGSIDE TWO ITEMS ON PAGE 16 UNDER THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 17A AND 17F.

ALL OF THESE ITEMS RELATE TO THE CANCER CLUSTER THAT WAS FOUND IN CASHMIR GARDENS.

>> MY ITEM SIMPLY CALLS FOR A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM TOGETHER. I HAVE TALKED WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ABOUT IT AND I TALKED TO THE HEALTH CARE DIRECTOR EARLIER THIS MORNING AND DURING THE BUDGET SESSION I TALKED TO OUR POLLUTION CONTROL DIRECTOR AND WE ARE TRYING TO SORT THROUGH HOW TO COORDINATE WITH THE CITY BECAUSE I ASSUME THEY HAVE TAKEN THE LEAD AND YOU CAN JUMP IN AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO END UP IN A POSITION WHERE WE ARE STUMBLING OVER ONE ANOTHER, BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SINCE THE STATE

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HAS CONDUCTED A STUDY AND BE ARE IN TOUCH WITH THE -- AND WE ARE IN TOUCH WITH THE STATE AND KNOW WHAT IS BEING DONE I AM TOLD IT MAY BE RESOLVED IN LITIGATION, BUT WE WANT TO DO AS MUCH DISCOVERY WE CAN. AND IF THAT'S A ROLE WE CAN PLAY TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE OUGHT TO DO IT IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSION. HOW MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THEY LIVE IN THE CITY AND UNINCORPORATED. A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE I CALL INTO MY OFFICE AND YOUR OFFICES AND I WILL MAKE A DISTINCT.

I WANT TO GET INVOLVED -- I WANT US TO PLAY A ROLE AND BE INVOLVED IN A WAY THAT WE ARE A HELP AND NOT A HINDRANCE. IF IT IS IN YOUR JUDGMENT OR THIS COURT COURT'S JUDGMENT THAT THE CITY SHOULD TAKE THE LEAD WE SHOULD DO THAT. IF WE SHOULD DIVIDE RESPONSIBILITY WE WILL DO IT. AND WE SHOULD SEE WHAT LESSONS WE SHOULD LEARN.

IF IT WAS UNINCORPORATED MY EARLIEST RECOLLECTION OF THIS SITE WAS A MEETING WITH THE CITY AND THE CONGRESSWOMAN AND THEY WERE ASKING HIM TO DO THAT.

THAT'S MY EARLIEST RECOLLECTION OF IT. WHAT ARE YOUR ON WHAT WE CAN DO? I KNOW WE CHAT BED IT AFTER I SAW IT IN THE PAPER.

>> YES, COMMISSIONER. IT HAS BEEN ON OUR RADAR FOR SOME TIME SO I APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING IT UP, COMMISSIONER. I THINK SARA UTLEY IS HERE WHICH IS THE HEAD OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP. SARA AND WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH BOTH CITY OF HOUSTON LEGAL AND CITY OF HOUSTON HEALTH DEPARTMENT. SHE CAN COME UP AND MAYBE TELL US MORE OF THE DETAILS ON WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON. JEW

>> GOOD MORNING. SARA UTLEY FOR THE RECORD. THERE WAS SOME INFORMATION YOU

WERE LOOKING FOR? >> I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT ACTION WE CAN TAKE. I SAID I DON'T WANT US TO STUMP -- STUMBLE ON THE CITY AND GET IN THEIR WAY, BUT I WANT US TO BE HELPFUL TO THE EXTENT WE CAN. WHAT ARE YOUR ALL THOUGHTS AS A DEPARTMENT OF WHAT WE CAN DO. IF YOU HAVEN'T FIGURED IT OUT, THAT'S OKAY.

I WANT TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT LESSONS CAN BE LEARNED BECAUSE IF SOMEONE ASKS FOR A STUDY ON ONE OF THESE SUPER FUN SITES IN AN UNINCORPORATED AREA, WHAT COULD WE DO?

>> IT IS TWO ISSUES WE HAVE GOING. WE HAVE THE CANCER CLUSTER STUDY RESULTS AND WE HAVE THE SEPARATE ITEM THAT WE HAVE PUT ON TO SPECIFICALLY LOOK FURTHER AT THE UNION PACIFIC SITE WHICH SOURCE OF CONCERN. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO WAS LOOK MORE AT THE UNION PACIFIC SITE THAT WE KNOW HAD HISTORIC OPERATIONS INTO THE 80S AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE -- THERE IS A GROUND WATER THERE THAT THE COMPANY IS TRYING TO CHANGE HOW THEY ARE GOING TO REMEED -- RAW MEDIATE THE FACILITY. AS A STARTING POINT WE WOULD LIKE TO HIRE AN EXPERT AND LOOK A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY AT HOW THEY ARE MEDIATING THE SITE AND TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS THAT IS A SOURCE TO THE COMMUNITY OF EXPOSURE.

>> HOW DO WE DO IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT -- IS THE CITY HIRING THE EXPERT? I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM TO HIRE ONE AND FOR US TO HIRE ONE.

WE CAN -- JUST A SUGGESTION, BUT HOW DO WE DO IT IN SUCH A WAY?

I THINK WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE CITY AND MAKE SURE WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER.

WE REACHED OUT TO LEGAL AIDE WHO IS LOOKING AT THE FACILITY AND AWARE OF THE CANCER CLUSTER STUDY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM AS WELL AND NOT UNDERMINING EACH OTHER, THAT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO INVESTIGATE THE SITE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST FRIDAY IN A CALL TO BOTH LEGAL AIDE AND POLLUTION CONTROL WAS THE NEED FOR A VAPOR INTRUSION STUDY DONE AT THE FACILITY TO SEE IF

THERE ARE ISSUES IN THE SOIL. >> IF I MIGHT, I WANT TO JUMP IN.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE POOL THE RESOURCES.

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I AM ASSUMING THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THIS ONE AND THERE WILL BE OTHERS AS WELL.

>> YES. >> IT IS OUTSIDE THE CITY OR ANOTHER CITY.

DO WE HAVE AN INVENTORY? HOW MANY OF THESE SITES ARE THERE?

>> I KNOW OF TWO OTHER SITES THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE CANCER CLUSTER AREA THAT ALSO HAD KNOWN CONTAMINATION. TWO OF THOSE ARE SUPER FUN SITES IN ADDITION TO THE

RAILROAD FACILITY WHICH IS NOT A SUPER FUN SITE. >> THE CITY HAS JURISDICTION.

IS THAT JURISDICTION THAT THE CITY HAS AND WE DO NOT HAVE? >> POLLUTION CONTROL IN HARRIS COUNTY DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO INTO THE CITY LIMITS AND CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION.

YOU HAVE ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY. HAVE YOU AUTHORITY TO GO IN AND DO IT. I THINK TRADITIONALLY THE LINES HAD NOT BEEN CROSSED OR IF THEY HAD YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE WORKING TOGETHER SO YOU ARE NOT WORKING ACROSS PURPOSES. IF YOU DO AN INVESTIGATION, YOU DO IT TOGETHER.

>> HAVE WE MET WITH THE CITY FOLKS OR DO YOU KNOW? >> I DO NOT KNOW.

>> THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION. MAYBE FORM A CITY/COUNTY, A COUNTY/CITY WORKING GROUP BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHERS OUT THERE. SO WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING -- I MEAN THINGS HAVE BEEN BUSY AND I TALKED TO ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT IT IN THE MIDST OF TALKING ABOUT HOW HE CAN GET OFF COUNCIL, BUT MAYBE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE DIVIDE IT AND IF THERE ARE OTHERS, AND I ASSUME ANY AUTHORITY WE HAVE, DOES

THE CITY HAVE IT AS WELL? >> YES, SIR. >> IF THERE WAS SOME AUTHORITY WE HAVE AND THEY DON'T HAVE, THEN WE WOULD GIVE UP THAT WORK.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? >> AND THE STATUTE -- STATUTORY AUTHORITY GIVEN TO US IS GIVEN TO OTHER GOVERNMENTS. THEY WOULD HAVE A SIMILAR

AUTHORITY TO FILE SUIT. >> HOW DID THIS GET ON THE RADAR? IS MY RECOLLECTION CORRECT? I REMEMBER A MEETING AND PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE COMPLAINING. THEY HAD CONCERNS. A LOT OF THEM WROTE LETTERS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT PROMPTED IT. >> I KNOW TCQ HELD A MEETING IN THE SPRING WITH THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS, THE POLLUTION CONTROL.

I DON'T THINK THE COUNTY WAS EVEN INVITED. I THINK MAYBE THE CITY ATTENDED. I THINK THAT'S WHEN THE CURRENT LEVEL OF INTEREST PEAKED. WE HAVE KNOWN THERE IS A PENDING PERMIT APPLICATION BUT WITH THE TCQ TO CHANGE THE REMEDIATION PLAN. WE DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A

LEVEL OF CONCERN. >> AND ON THE OTHER SITES YOU MAKE REFERENCE TO, DO WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE IN UNINCORPORATED WHETHER MY PRECINCT OR ANYWHERE ELSE? DO WE HAVE OTHERS OF THESE IN UNINCORPORATED HARRIS COUNTY WHERE I KNOW WE TAKE THE LEAD

RESPONSIBILITY? >> FOR A SUPER FUN SITES? >> YES.

>> THE ONLY TWO ARE THE NORTH AND SOUTH CATTLE SITES ALONG THE 45 CORRIDOR WHERE THE HARDY TOLL ROAD EXTENSION IS GOING IN. I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER FACILITIES AROUND. WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU.

>> HOW CAN WE TRIGGER -- IS IT A SIMPLE REQUEST FOR THE STATE TO GO IN AND DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE OR DO WE DO IT? I MEAN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM NOT SPENDING -- OR WE'RE NOT SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WORRYING ABOUT AN AREA WE CAN'T ASSIST AND PASS OVER AN AREA WHERE WE ARE IN CHARGE. HOW DO I GET THIS REVIEWED? AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOU CAN -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO LET US KNOW NOW. WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT -- I THINK. I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T READ ALL OF THE STUFF MY STAFF PUT IN HERE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TRIGGER WHATEVER PROMPTED THE REVIEW FOR THIS ONE AND GET THE SAME THING FROM THE STATE.

IF THEY DON'T DO IT, DO WE NEED THE RESOURCES TO DO IT? >> COMMISSIONER, WE WILL TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT AND REACHING OUT TO TCQ AND WE WILL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OTHER PEOPLE AT THE CITY TO HAVE A COORDINATOR RESPONSE TO ALL OF THIS.

MAYBE IT LEADS TO A MAP OF THE COUNTY SHOWING WHERE THE SITES ARE LOCATED.

>> I LIKE IT WHEN THE HEAT MAP POPS UP. MAYBE FROM THE HARRIS HEALTH STUDY THERE WOULD BE A PLACE TO FIND OUT IF IT WAS DEEP ENOUGH TO DO THAT.

WERE YOU GOING TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE? >> NO, SIR.

>> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER CAGLE? >> R. JACK CAGLE: MY

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UNDERSTANDING IS IT HAS BEEN THERE FOR 10 YEARS, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> IT WAS AROUND A LONGTIME AND THEN WENT INTO READ -- RAW MEDIATION.

>> R. JACK CAGLE: THE REASON IT CAME UP AGAIN IS IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THE MITIGATION THAT THEY ASK FOR PERMISSION FOR THE TCQ TO CONTINUE. ONCE THE REQUEST FOR CONTINUED

LITIGATION CAME UP IT TRIGGERED A WHAT ARE WE DOING? >> AND IT HAS BEEN PENDING

BEFORE THE STATE AGENCY FOR AWHILE. >> ARE THEY STOPPED FROM

MITIGATING? >> THEY WANT TO MEDIATE SOME OF THE GROUND WATER ISSUES.

>> IF THEY ARE TRYING TO MITIGATE WE DON'T WANT TO SLOW THEM DOWN.

THAT'S WHAT THE PERMIT APPLICATION IS. HAS ANYBODY TALKED TO THE UP

TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING? >> I HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO UP.

I KNOW THERE WERE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS IN THE LAST VERSION OF -- THAT THE LEGAL AIDE HAD IN THEIR REVIEW OF WHAT WAS ADMITTED TO THE TCQ IN TERMS OF EX -- EXTENT OF THE GROUND WATER. AND THAT TCQ ASKED UP FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND TCQ IS WAITING FOR THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS MY UNDERSTANDING WHERE THINGS

SIT. WE HAVE NOT REACHED OUT. >> I AGREE WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO OUR PARTNERS AND THE STATE AND THE CITY OF HOUSTON, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO TALK WITH THE RESPECT THAT IS TRYING TO MITIGATE THIS PROJECT AND SEE IF MAYBE IN THE MIDST OF THAT THERE ARE THINGS THEY CAN DO THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL AND MAYBE THEY CAN HELP US IDENTIFY LOCATION THAT'S MAY BE UNINCORPORATED IN HARRIS COUNTY AS WELL.

>> AND I AM SUGGESTING WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOME ENTITY PLANNED ONE GOVERNMENTALLEN -- GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY AGAINST ANOTHER ONE.

I SUGGEST FIRST MEET WITH THE CITY PEOPLE AND SEE HOW TO DIVEE IT UP.

BASED ON THE MAP THAT MY SEAT MATE IS SHOWING ME,ING WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THEM IN UNINCORPORATED HARRIS COUNTY. AND MAYBE IF IT IS APPROPRIATE WHEN WE MEET AGAIN IN JANUARY IF THAT IS ENOUGH TIME EITHER YOU OR I CAN PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA.

YOU CAN LET US KNOW, BUT I LIKE THE SPECIAL ISSUES. >> LINA HIDALGO: YES,

COMMISSIONER RADACK? >> STEVE RADACK: WHY NOT GET SHAW IN THERE?

>> I CALLED SHAW AND HE WAS UP YESTERDAY AND I DIDN'T BRING IT UP WITH HIM.

I BROUGHT IT UP WITH POLLUTION CONTROL. FIGURE OUT WHAT MAKES SENSE.

ON THE ONES WE TAKE LEAD RESPONSIBILITY ON, IT WILL BE UP TO US WHICH EVER PRECINCT

TO FIGURE OUT WHAT SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT BE DONE. >> LINA HIDALGO: SO YOU HAD ASKED -- THERE WAS AN ITEM SEEKING PERMISSION TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION.

ARE YOU STILL SEEKING THE EXPERT -- ACCESS TO THE EXPERTS AND ALL OF THAT, OR SINCE WE ARE TAKING THE ITEMS TOGETHER -- I MEAN ON THE ONE HAND IT IS IMPORTANT TO COORDINATE WITH THE CITY. ON THE OTHER HAND IF THERE IS SOMETHING YOU NEED TO BEGINDOIN.

>> I THINK THE MAIN THINGS WE WERE ASKING FOR IS FUNDING TO HELP HIRE EXPERTS TO SORT THROUGH THE DOCUMENT THAT'S WERE SUBMITTED TO THE TCQ BY THE UP TO FIGURE OUT IF WE AGREE THAT THE REMEDIATION IS OCCURRING LIKE IT NEEDS TO, OR IF THERE IS ANY OTHER CONCERNS LIKE THE VAPOR INTRUSION STUDY WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AT THE SITE.

AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE SUBMITTING THE COMMENTS TO THE TCQ WITH ANY CONCERNS WE

HAVE. >> LINA HIDALGO: SO RIGHT NOW ALL YOU ARE ASKING FOR WHICH WOULDN'T GET IN THE WAY FOR THE CITY IS FOR THE EXPERT SO THAT YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE NEED THE INTRUSION STUDY AND WHAT ALL ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE INCLUDING I'M

GUESSING EXPLORING THE OTHER SITES? >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT I DO THINK IT MAKES SENSE IF WE ARE PARALLEL YOU QUO USE THE SAME EXPERT UNLESS IT IS A CONFLICT. YOU WILL NEED SOME EXPERTS AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SPLIT.

WHETHER IN PASADENA OR SOMEWHERE ELSE -- I ASSUME THERE ARE SOME.

I DON'T MIND VOTING ON ITEMS AND IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF WE GREAT -- IF WE GREAT.

IF THE ISSUE -- IF THE ACTIVITY IS NOT ROBUST ENOUGH IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT

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SUBJECT. IT MAKES SENSE NOT TO -- YOU COULD END UP WITH TWO EXPERTS THAT DIFFER BY THE WAY. IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU GET SOMEBODY WITH EXPERTISE TO BE

ON THE SAME TRACK. >> WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE CITY.

>> LINA HIDALGO: LET'S HEAR FROM THE SPEAKERS FIRST. SANDRA SMALL, ALEX BRANCH,

RHONDA POWELL. >> I THINK WHEN THIS COMES UP WITH THE HEALTH IN THE HARRIS

COUNTY AND LAWSUITS, YOU SHOULD SEND A COPY TO SHAW. >> WE CAN DO THAT.

WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE OVER THERE. WE CAN WORK WITH THEM.

>> LINA HIDALGO: SANDRA EDWARDS, ANDRE SMOLE, SOPHIE DALBURG.

DOLL -- DAHLBURG. >> AND, JUDGE, SOME OF THEM ARE COMING LATER BECAUSE THEY

DIDN'T KNOW WE WOULD CALL EARLY. >> THEY JUST CALLED A

MEETING. >> LINA HIDALGO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK?

>> I WILL JUST -- SO FOR THE RECORD I AM ZOE MIDDLETON AND MY ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN WORKING WITH IMPACT, A GROUP OF CONCERNED CITIZENS ABOUT THE SITE FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW. AND IT IS THEIR EFFORTS THAT PROMPTED THIS RAW MEDIATION OF THE SITE. WE THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT HARRIS COUNTY COULD -- RESOURCES HARRIS COUNTY COULD BRING TO BEAR AROUND THIS ISSUE.

THE COMMUNITY IS PRINCE -- PRINCE PLEA CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR HEALTH AND FELT VALIDATED BY THE RESULTS OF THE CANCER CLUSTER STUDY AND THAT'S WHY THEY STARTED THIS WORK. ONE OF THE THINGS THEY ARE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING WITH THE COUNTY'S HEALTH INCLUDE INDUSTRIAL AREA BUYOUTS. WE SEE THE EXTRAORDINARY CANCER RATE AND CONTAMINATION OF THE SOIL AND THE WATER COPE -- WILL IMPACT THE PROPERTY VALUES AND THE GENERATIONAL WEALTH. IT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SAW FOLKS BE INTERESTED IN AFTER THE I.T. DISASTER. THEY ARE ALSO INTERESTED IN BLOOD TESTING AND OTHER FORMS OF MEDICAL TESTING THAT MAYBE CAN BE DONE IN COLLABORATION OF HARRIS HEALTH AND MORE CANCER SCREENINGS IN THE AREA.

IT IS A KNOWN CARCINOGEN. AND MAKING SURE TEST RESULTS AND PUBLIC INFORMATION -- OR PUBLIC HEALTH INFORMATION ABOUT THE RISKS ARE AVAILABLE IN ALL LANGUAGE SPOKEN IN THE IMPACTED AREA AND THEY WANT A MORE REGULAR SENSE ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY IS MAKING PEOPLE SICK AND THEY WANT WARNING SIGNALS. THERE WAS NO WARNING WHEN THE ACCIDENT OCCURRED AT THE SITE. THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THAT KIND OF A EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS ASPECT IN CASE THERE IS ANOTHER SPILL IN THE AREA BECAUSE OF OTHER SITES. THAT'S A CONCERN OF THEIRS. AND THEY ARE ALSO INTERESTED IN WHAT CONTROL CAN DO IN THE AREA WHEN THERE IS HEAVY RAINS.

THE WATER GATHERS AND THEY REPORT SEEING RAINBOW COLOR IN THE WATER THEY BELIEVE IS RELATED TO THE TOXIC -- TOXICITY IN THE GROUND. THEY ARE CONCERNED WITH WALKING THROUGH THE WATER AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW CONTAMINATED IT WAS AND SO THAT IS IMPORTANT. WHAT CAN BE DONE TO MITIGATE MASSIVE BLOODS IN -- FLOODS IN

THE AREA AND EXPOSURE TO THE CARCINOGEN. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

>> I KNOW THAT -- I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO VOTE ON THESE ITEMS. >> LINA HIDALGO: WE HAVE A FEW

MORE SPEAKERS. >> I AM ASSUMING ONCE -- THE ONES THAT ARE OVER THERE THEY WOULD LIKE US TO VOTE ON IT. THERE IS A ROLE THE COUNTY CAN PLAY.

>> THEY ARE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING IT FURTHER AND THEY WILL SUBMIT A LETTER AFTER

THIS. >> THE REASON I AM ASKING IS TO VISIT WITH THE CITY ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF BUYOUTS AND THE OTHER ISSUES.

THE CITY WOULD TAKE THE LEAD, OBVIOUSLY BUT MAKING SURE WE ARE ALL GETTING SOMETHING DONE

NOT JUST TO SAY WE DID SOMETHING. >> ALLOWING THE COUNTY TO MOVE FORWARD IS A GOOD APPROACH FOR THE CITY AND EVERYONE'S DEPARTMENTS.

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>> AND COMMISSIONER AND JUDGE, CERTAINLY WE WILL HAVE FOLKS AVAILABLE TO TALK WITH ANYONE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK TO COMMISSIONER SPORE THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

>> AND EVEN IF THEY GET HERE LATE THEY CAN SPEAK WHEN THEY ARE HERE.

I WOULD SUGGEST WE VOTE ON IT. I THINK A COUPLE MORE WANT TO

SPEAK. >> LINA HIDALGO: LET ME MAKE SURE I CALLED THE NAMES.

SO THERE WAS SOPHIE DOLBERG, BARBARA BEET -- BEATLE, ZOE MIDDLETON WHO SPOKE AND THAT'S ALL. SO WHAT'S THE MOTION? WHAT WOULD THE MOTION BE?

>> ONE WOULD BE AND I TALKED WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I WAS TOLD -- YOU TELL ME. ONE IS THAT THE COUNTY SUBMIT AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT STATE AND HEALTH SERVICES AND THE TCQ GATHER POINT ON THE GROUND AND THE DATA COLLECTED. THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE I MOVE THAT, I GUESS YOU CAN -- I MOVE THIS COURT REQUEST THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF STATE HEALTH SERVICES TO CONDUCT THE THIRD AND FOURTH STEP IN THE CDC AND CSTE GUIDELINES FOR INVESTIGATING A CANCER CLUSTER TO PERFORM A FOLLOW-UP STUDY IN THE APPROPRIATE AREAS TO EXAMINE IF EXPOSURE TO A SPECIFIC RISK FACTOR IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CANCER CLUSTERS.

>> AND WE ALSO NEED AUTHORITY TO HIRE THE EXPERT. >> SO MOVED.

>> AND THE AUTHORITY TO HIRE THE EXPERT. >> LINA HIDALGO: JUST -- SO THEN THE -- SO THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST TO THE STATE HEALTH SERVICES AND THE TCQ

DATA IS FOR WHAT EXACTLY? >> GENERALLY WE GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IS

GOING ON. >> THE REQUEST TO THE TCQ WOULD BE TO GET THE UNDERLING DOCUMENTS SUBMITTED TO TCQ FOR RAW MEDIATION AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE EXTENT OF THE SOIL CONTAMINATION AND GROUND WATER CONTAMINATION AND WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO RAW MEDIATE AND SEE WHAT ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE AND THE REQUEST TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE UNDERLING DATA OF WHAT WE CAN AND IT WAS GATHERED TO PROVE THE CANCER CLUSTER STUDY AND LEARN MORE INFORMATION FROM THAT DATA ITSELF.

>> LINA HIDALGO: AND THEN THE EXPERT YOU ASKED FOR. >> THAT WOULD BE TO HELP LOOK AT THE RAW MEDIATION DOCUMENTS AND THE CLEAN UP DOCUMENTS TO SEE IF WE THINK WE NEED

SOMETHING -- SOMETHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THE SITE. >> LINA HIDALGO: I AGREE THAT

WE LOOP IN DR. SHAW AND DR. BAGMAN ON THIS WORK. >> THE MOTION ARE THE TWO ITEMS AND TO BRING IN THE EXPERT. COMMISSIONER CAGLE?

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALSO TALK TO THE RAILROAD. >> UNION PACIFIC, YES, SIR, WE

WILL DO THAT. >> AND SEE IF WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD SOMETIMES THOSE WHO ARE IN THOSE SITUATIONS ARE MOTIVATED TO WORK WITH US AND WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THAT

OPPORTUNITY. >> CORRECT. >> AND HE WILL DO THAT.

WE DON'T NEED THAT IN THE MOTION. >> LET'S MAKE SURE BEFORE WE LAUNCH THE MISSILES WE GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO MAKE PEACE. ONCE YOU LAUNCH THE MISSILES

YOUR THREAT IS LAUNCHING THE MISSILES. >> COMMISSIONERS, THIS MOTION IS UNDER YOUR ITEM. THERE IS A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR. MOTION CARRIES.

ROBERT WE DON'T NEED MOTIONS FOR YOUR ITEMS? >> WELL, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS SHARE THE RECORD THAT ALL OF THE ITEMS PASSED IS PART OF THE MOTION.

>> I MOVE THAT ALL ARE PASSED. >> DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON

THAT? >> NO. >> LINA HIDALGO: AND IN TERMS OF THE BROADER COMMISSIONER ANALYSIS OF OTHER AREAS IN THE COUNTY THAT MAY HAVE A SIMILAR ISSUE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WILL LOOK AT ONCE THE STUDY COMES --

>> WE ARE BUILDING THAT AND WE WILL WORK WITH DR. SHAW AND THE CITY TO COORDINATE THOSE

EFFORTS. >> IT IS INTERESTING -- I MEAN YOU CAN'T PROVE CAUSATION, BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED IN ALL OF THESE SITUATIONS.

>> IT IS TO KNOW WHERE ALL OF THESE PLACES ARE. >> AND AM I CORRECT THAT SOMEBODY MADE A REQUEST AND TCEQ DID THE STUDY, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> THE CANCER CLUSTER STUDY WAS DONE BY THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

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>> SO WE WILL ASK THEM IF THAT IS APPROPRIATE. IF YOU WANT TO TELL US IN THE NEW YEAR WHO WOULD GO AND DO A COMPARABLE STUDY OF THE SITES, OF THE OTHER SITES WHETHER THEY WERE IN THE COUNTY, PERIOD. AT LEAST WE WANT TO ASK FOR IT. I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO BE IN POSITION WHERE WE DIDN'T KNOW -- I DIDN'T WANT SOMEBODY TO SAY WE DIDN'T KNOW BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW AND YOU

CAN TELL US IN JANUARY. >> LINA HIDALGO: ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THAT'S IT. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. THAT WAS EVERYTHING OUT OF

ORDER. >> I SAY WE MAKE A MOTION? >> LINA HIDALGO: WE TOOK A VOTE AND IT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. LET'S MOVE BACK TO THE AGENDA STARTING WITH COUNTY ENGINEER. IS YOUR MIC ON? SO THIS IS ANDRE SMALL AND THIS IS ON COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 1 ON THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD AND THE CANCER CLUSTER. GO AHEAD, SIR.

>> MY NAME IS ANDRE SMALL. I GREW UP RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE CONTAMINATION.

IS IT ON? >> LINA HIDALGO: YOU'RE GOOD. >> THE CONTAMINATION.

WE ALL PLAYED IN THE DITCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND IT ALWAYS HAD THAT RAINBOW LOOKING COLOR IN THE DITCHES. UNTIL RECENTLY WE FOUND OUT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

TCQ JUST FOUND OUT THAT THE GROUND SAMPLES SHOWS MORE HARM TO THE COMMUNITY.

I HAVE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY ALL MY LIFE. WE JUST WANT TO CLEAN THE AIR UP AND CLEAN UP THE SOIL UP. BACK IN THE DAY THEY COVERED EVERYBODY'S WELLS UP AND WE PLAYED IN IT. WE WANT TO SEE IT CLEANED UP AND THAT WAY IT WON'T HARM.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. IF MORE FOLKSRRIVE WE WILLKE THR ITEM ONHE COMMISSIONER A TRANS TRANSMITAL -- IT IS A TRANSMITAL OF OUR PARK FUNCTIONS.

AND PAGE 1922A WE ARE REQUESTING A GRANT FOR THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT BOARD.

>> LINA HIDALGO: LET'S STOP ON THE TRANSMITAL FOR A SECOND. WHICH EYE -- ITEM IS THAT?

PAGE 7, ITEM W. YES, COMMISSIONER. >> SO, JOHN, I ENJOYED READING IT. CAN YOU JUST WALK THROUGH IT? IT MAY BE HELPFUL FOR EVERYONE. YOU OR ONE OF YOUR EXPERTS WALK THROUGH IT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE US THE KEYNOTE ADDRESS, BUT JUST WALK THROUGH IT.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. >> WHAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT BOTH ROAD AND BRIDGE OPERATIONS AND THE PARK OPERATIONS. WHAT WE DISCOVERED WAS NOT UNIQUE TO HARRIS COUNTY, BUT WE DISCOVERED IT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY IS MANY ORGANIZATIONS DO NOT KEEP DETAILED RECORDS TO ASSOCIATE DIRECT CAUSE TO A PARTICULAR ACTIVITY. IDEALLY YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO YOUR ACCOUNTING SYSTEM AND FIND OUT HOW MUCH MONEY YOU ARE SPENDING, FOR EXAMPLE, ON ASPHALT ROAD REPAIRS.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE AS IT IS WITH ANYBODY ELSE. THE ONLY ENTITY WE CAN GET GOOD INFORMATION FROM IS THE CITY OF HOUSTON ON THE ROAD AND BRIDGE SYSTEM.

WHAT WE DID DO IS LOOKED AT ALL OF THE OPERATIONS AND WE LOOKED AT THE OPERATIONS AS

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FAR AS THE INDIVIDUALS WORKING ON THAT. THERE IS NO CENTRAL ACCOUNTING ON THAT. EACH PRECINCT HAS TO PROVIDE THE DATA.

WHAT WE DIDN'T LOOK AT IS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE PROVIDED. ONE PRECINCT COSTS MORE TO OPERATE AND IT COULD BE BECAUSE THEY ARE PROVIDING MORE PROGRAMS AND IT COULD COST MORE MONEY. A PARK WITH SPLASH PADS COSTS MORE TO OPERATE THAN A NATURE PRESERVE. WE DID LOOK AT PER SAY LEVELS OF SERVICE, BUT WE LOOKED IN OPERATIONS. REALLY THE OUTCOME OF THE STUDY IS OUR RECOMMEND -- RECOMMENDATION OF STANDARDIZATION. FOR EXAMPLE, THE ROAD AND THE BRIDGE IT CONCLUDED THAT IT SHOULD BE A STANDARD FACILITY FOR KEEPING THE RECORDS.

THEY WILL ENTER THE RECORDS OF ASSET MANAGEMENT. SO WHEN THE PRE SINK BOUNDARIES CHANGE THE ONLY THING THEY CHANGE IS THE PRECINCT BOUNDARIES ON THE MAP. EACH ONE HAS ACCESS TO THE NEW AREAS AND THE PREVIOUS PRECINCTS OF WHAT THEY DONE THERE. OUR RECOMMENDATION FOCUSES AROUND THE STANDARDIZATION THROUGHOUT THE ROADS AND THE BRIDGES AND THE PARKS.

>> IT IS INTERESTING AND THEY GOT THESE OLD USE CLIPS. I JUST HAVE TO READ THIS ONE TO YOU. IT IS 1973. I WAS A FRESHMAN IN COLLEGE IN 1973. I WAS OFF IN NEW ORLEANS. IT WAS THE HOUSTON CHRONICLE.

IT WAS PENT UP FRUSTRATION OVER ROAD MAINTENANCE PLANS. AND HE SAYS -- IT SAYS ALL OF LINES PENT UP FRUSTRATIONS AND THEY UNLEASHED AS THE COURT APPROVED A UNIT ROAD SYSTEM FOR HARRIS COUNTY. SINCE COUNTY BILL ELLIOTT'S LIBERAL MAJORITY BEGAN ITS DOMINANCE LAST JANUARY, LIONS SAT BACK AS THE COURT ENACTED COUNTY MODERNIZATION PROGRAMS. EVEN WHEN A MAJORITY REDREW HIS PRECINCT THEY DIDN'T ADD THE LIBERAL VOTING SECTIONS. TO THE CONSERVATIVE LIONS DISTRICT THE THIBT -- THE 31- YEAR VETERAN WITHHELD HIS DISGUST. THE LAST ONE WAS ON THIS VERY SUBJECT. SQUATTY SAID, QUOTE, IF WE GET IN HERE YOU CALL IN AND JUMP AT YOUR COMMISSIONER ABOUT A ROAD. HE CAN'T TELL YOU IT WILL BE FIXED BECAUSE IT WON'T BE UP TO HIM. IT IS INTERESTING THAT THIS FIGHT WENT ON BACK THEN. THE MORE INTERESTING POINTS OUT OF THIS REPORT TO ME WERE THAT IT IS THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT THE COUNTY REFERENDUM IS NOT

REQUIRED. >> THAT'S WHAT THE PREVIOUS COUNTY ATTORNEY SAID AND --

>> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S THE OPINION OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND IT IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT HARRIS COUNTY IS A SPECIAL LAW DEALING WITH THESE THINGS.

>> THE SPECIAL LAW WAS 1913 AND I READ SOMETHING IN THERE.

THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THERE THAT SAID 1913 AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ALSO SAID IT WAS LEGAL TO DO WHIPPITS IF THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR WORK. IF THEY DIDN'T DO WORK THEY WOULD WHIP THEM. IT WOULD WOULD BE INMATES LIKE ME.

I DID READ IT. I DO THINK WE OUGHT TO ASK MR. BLUNT'S OFFICE TO COME BACK TO US WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON STANDARDIZATION SO WE HAVE A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT THAT MEANS. I THINK AT THE LEAST WE CAN DO THAT. I DON'T THINK I FOR ONE -- ACTUALLY I DON'T KNOW, ARE BUT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME STANDARDIZATION AND THAT WOULD COME OVER TIME.

AND I MENTION THIS TO YOU, MR. BLUNT -- IT WAS ABOUT 50 PAGES ? I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME VERSION OF FEAR -- PEER REVIEW.

I WOULD LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THIS AND COME BACK AND GIVE US THEIR THOUGHTS ON IT AS WELL. I WANT TO MOVE THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO RETURN

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TO THE COURT IN 30 DAYS IF THAT IS ENOUGH TIME WITH RECOMMENDATIONS OF STANDARDIZATIONS ACROSS THE PRECINCTS. THAT'S SIMPLY SAYING A STANDARDIZATION. I ASSUME THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO KNOW WHAT IT

COSTS IN EACH PRECINCT TO DO WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO. >> AFTER IT WAS FULLY STANDARDIZED AND PEOPLE SAW IT WAS UPDATED TO ACCOUNT FOR INDIVIDUAL ACTIVITIES AND YOU

CAN SEE THE TRUE COST. >> AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME I WAT TO MAKE THAT MOTION.

IT WAS INTERESTING. I GOT IT I GUESS A WEEK AGO WHEN YOU PUT IT OUT.

I READ IT AND WANTED THE NEWSPAPER ARTICLES. I SUGGEST THE MEMBERS READ THEM. IT WAS COLORFUL ON WHAT THESE REFORMERS WERE DOING IN 1973.

>> LINA HIDALGO: I LIKE THAT ONE SAID TO MAP ALL OF THE PARKS AND THE TRAILS SO I CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE I WANT TO GO RUN. OTHER COMMENTS?

>> NO. >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER GARCIA?

>> ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MOTION? >> IS IT APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A

MOTION NOW? OR DO WE JUST ASK JOHN. >> THE EFFECT OF THE MOTION IS

A REQUEST. >> AND JOHN, HOW WILL WE ISSUE OF -- IT IS MAINTENANCE, BUT IT IS COST PROHIBITIVE MAINTENANCE. IN OTHER WORDS YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE I THINK SOME ANOMALY DATA. I JUST VISITED IN CROSBY AND APPARENTLY WE HAVE BEEN ON A WEEKLY BASIS BEEN MILLING THE STREET VERSUS JUST DOING THE STREET. HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THE PATCH JOB PROCESS VERSUS

REAL? >> WE DIDN'T GO INTO DETAIL BECAUSE THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT COMES OUT IN FEBRUARY WILL EXPRESS THAT VERY THING AND IT WILL DISCUSS -- WE ARE DOING THE INDEX OVER THE ENTIRE COUNTY. THEY WILL SAY YOU SHOULD STOP DOING THE PATCHING AND DO A FULL RECONSTRUCTION. THERE IS A LOT OF TIME THAT WE HAVE DONE WHAT WE COULD. AND NOW WE LOOK AT A LONG-TERM COST AND IT IS BETTER TO SPEND THE MONEY UP FRONT AND DO THE FULL RECONSTRUCTION ON THE ROAD INSTEAD OF A SIMPLE PATCH JOB. IT COSTS MORE TO DO RECONSTRUCTION IN THE

SHORT-TERM, BUT IT PAYS FOR ITSELF IN THE LONG-TERM. >> I AM GLAD TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT. THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS I LEARNED AT THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE HAVE WORKED TO GIVE THAT COMMUNITY A STREET THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD A LONGTIME AGO.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE WILL LOOK AT THE SAME THING RELATED TO LOCAL DRAINAGE?

>> YES, SIR. THAT WILL ALL BE DISCUSSED IN THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION PLAN. THEY WILL NOW EVALUATE ALL OF THE LOCAL DRAINAGE.

AND THAT WILL BE A FURTHER COMPONENT. >> GOOD DEAL.

AND I GUESS LASTLY AND THIS IS TO THE PREVIOUS ISSUE OF WHERE THE JURISDICTION LIES, BUT I WAS TALKING TO RUSS AND MATT ABOUT THE NORTH CANAL PROJECT, BUT INSIDE THE PRECINCT, BUT INSIDE THE CITY OF HOUSTON YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF CITY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE FLOODING. IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO LAYOUT SOME PLANS ON HOW TO CONNECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE AUTHORITY CANAL PROJECT TO IDEALLY ALLEVIATE THEM FROM THE CHRONIC FLOODING THAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING.

DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON HOW WE WORK TO ACCOMPLISH THAT WHETHER IT IS SENDING A LET TORE CITY COUNCIL OR IF THERE IS ANOTHER MECHANISM. HERE WE ARE SPENDING FLOOD CONTROL RESOURCES FOR THE NORTH CANAL PROJECT. WE ALL HAVE FLOODED HOMES AND

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WE ARE ALL TRYING TO ALLEVIATE THOSE ISSUES. >> WE ARE DOING A PROJECT INCREASING ONE THAT ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS THEY INTEND TO DO ARE DEPENDENT ON THE FLOOD CONTROL. THEY ARE TAKING THE LEAD ON THE PROJECT AND ONCE IT IS COMPLETE THEY CAN DO ALL OF THE LOCAL DRAINAGE PROJECTS. WE ARE WORKING ON A SIMILAR PROJECT IN PRECINCT FOUR WHERE WE ARE DIGGING THE FIRST PART OF THE DE -- DETENTION

POPPED -- POND. >> I THANK YOU. >> GO AHEAD.

>> FIRST OF ALL, JUDGE, IT WARMS MY HEART WHEN I HEAR SOMEONE SAY THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE TO RUN. WE HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL MAP IN PRE SINK FOUR AND IT SHOWS OUR PARKS. WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY PARKS AS MY COLLEAGUES DO, BUT THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL PARKS WITH A LOT OF GOOD SERVICES AND AMENITIES AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT MAP AND I THINK SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE A SIMILAR MAP THEY HAVE AND I IMAGINE THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT AS WELL. YOU CAN COME AND LOOK AT THE BEAUTIFUL STUFF WE HAVE. NUMBER TWO, I WELCOME STANDARDIZATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LONGER LEAD IN THAN THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE TUESDAY.

MAYBE IF WE CAN HAVE JOHN PREPARE THE REPORT AND PRODUCE IT AT THE END OF JANUARY AND THEN MAYBE WAIT 10 DAYS OR SO SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE.

>> I WILL TELL YOU -- I HAVEN'T WRITTEN IT YET, BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

A LOT OF THIS WILL BE WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PRECINCTS THAT DEVELOP -- YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING -- WE HAVE DONE THINGS WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OVER TIME IN TERMS OF TRYING TO HAVE A WAY OF REPORTING. WE HAVE MAPS THAT SHOW WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CORRIDORS ARE GOING AND IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR YOU TO DO MAJOR JOB. I THINK ABOUT THE TIME THEY CAME ON WE TOOK SOMETHING AND THEN REPORTED IT TO YOUR OFFICES. AND SO I THINK WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD AND THERE IS A LOT OF GOOD STUFF THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT PERIOD OF TIME TO DO THE COLLABORATION AND THE WORKING.

IT MAKES SENSE WE TAKE OVER A ROAD AND WE KNOW WHEN PRECINCT 2 TOOK OVER THOSE ROADS IN CROSBY AND IN HUFFMAN THAT THERE WAS --Y -- WE LEFT SOME OF THE PRECINCT 4 EMPLOYEES AT PRECINCT 2 TO HELP OUT. THEY ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE SOILS IN OTHER PLACES AND SO

THOSE ISSUES THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THERE. >> JUDGE, IF I MIGHT, COMMISSIONER, I WANT THIS TO BE A PROCESS THAT WE ALL HOMEFULLY CAN -- HOPEFULLY BUY

INTO. >> APPLES TO APPLES, I AM ALL IN FAVOR.

>> AND I AM -- I BROUGHT THIS UP, BY THE WAY. WE WERE GOING THROUGH DELIBERATIONS FOR HOW WE ARE GOING TO FUND THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

THAT'S WHEN I AND -- THAT'S WHEN I REQUESTED THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND COMING OFF THE HEELS OF ONE MORE BUDGET SESSION. SOMETIMES WE HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT I THINK I WAS POINTING OUT YESTERDAY IF WE DID THE 11% -- IF WE DID 5%, 1% PAY RAISE IS $11 MILLION. SO WITH 60 MILLION LEFT IF WE GAVE THEM 5% WHICH IS WHAT WAS LAST YEAR THEY WILL GET IT AND DECIDE HOW THEY WANT TO SPEND IT. THAT'S $55 MILLION AND THERE IS $5 MILLION LEFT.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WOULD BE BECAUSE THE STATE LAW PASSED QUICKLY.

IT TOOK AWHILE TO ANALYZE IT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT MEANT AND WE WERE HAVING TO MAKE

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TOUGH DECISIONS ABOUT OUR TAX RATE. I ASKED FOR THEM TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE CITY HAS A SELF-IMPOSED REVENUE CAP AND NOW WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT MEANS IN ADDITION TO THAT. ALL OF US HAVE BRIGHT IDEAS, BUT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM. IF YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY YOU HAVE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS -- YOU KNOW WE WILL HAVE EMS ISSUES. WE HAVE A FIRE CHEECH -- FIRE CHIEF AND NO FIRE DEPARTMENT IN UNINCORPORATED AREA. WHEN THEY DROP OUT WE HAVE TO PICK IT UP UNDER STATE LAW. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ISSUES LIKE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ISSUES LIKE THE CRIME LAB AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ISSUES AT LIKE WHAT WE DO. I HOPE IT DOESN'T GET AS UGLY AS I HAVE SEEN I GUESS THERE IS JAIME AND THERE IS MORE PROFESSIONAL HELP. HE SAID THEY WANT PROFESSIONAL HELP TO GIVE THEM MORE TIME TO DEVOTE TO THEIR PRIVATE BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL OBLIGATIONS. YOU THINK THINGS ARE INTENSE AROUND HERE I WILL HAVE A BRAWL AT THIS TABLE? THEY OWN A COMPANY AND THEY TEACH TWO CLASSES AT AN AREA

UNIVERSITY. >> THERE ARE TWO CLASSES. >> AND SQUATTY WAS MILD WITH HIS PREDECESSOR'S PICTURE IN THE HALLWAY. THEY HAD A SHOOTING.

YOU KNOW THAT SONG I SHOT THE SHERIFF, BUT I DID NOT SHOOT THE DEPUTY?

>> YEAH. IS THAT WHERE IT CAME FROM? >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAME FROM THERE, BUT IT SURE DID FIT. THAT'S HOW SQUATTY CAME IN THE

1940S. >> WE ARE GETTING ALONG SO WELL AND I LOVE ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES. YOU KNOW I AM AGAINST GUNS, BUT YOU LET ME KNOW IF I NEED

TO GET MY LICENSE. >> IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE. >> MY MOTION IS TO MOVE COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO DIRECT THE COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO RETURN TO COURT

WITHIN 45 DAYS? >> 45 DAYS, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US ALL TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AND GIVE US A LEAD IN TIME SO WE CAN SEE HIS REPORT TO LOOK AT HIS REPORT.

>> 45 DAYS. OKAY. >> LINA HIDALGO: AND IT IS A TRANSMITAL ITEM. WE CAN'T MAKE A MOTION, CAN WE THIS.

>> WE CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR FURTHER STUDY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. IT SOUNDS OFFICIAL. MAYBE THAT COMES FROM MY PREVIOUS JOB. WITH RECOMMENDATION FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE FUNCTIONS ACROSS THE PRECINCT. GENE

>> LINA HIDALGO: IS THERE A SECOND? >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. >> JUDGE, I WILL SPEAK OUT OF ORDER.

A MISCELLANEOUS ITEM NUMBER THREE, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE BUDGET, THE 2020 BUDGET IN

GREATER HOUSTON 9-1-1. >> SECOND. >> WAS THERE ALREADY A SECOND

ON THAT? >> LINA HIDALGO: PAGE 32. >> I WOULD HAVE SECONDED YOU IF I WAS QUICK ENOUGH. I KNOW SISTER LAVERNE FROM HER OTHER LIFE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: 25C. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? >> THAT'S A LESS SEWN --

LESSON I CAN LEARN. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR?

>> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: MOTION CARRIES.

>> GO TELL THE SISTERS I WOULD HAVE DONE IT. >> LINA HIDALGO: SO WE WERE IN

THE CON TEENEN -- CON -- COUNTY ENGINEER ITEM W. >> CAN WE TAKE CARE OF

CATHOLIC CHARITIES? >> LINA HIDALGO: LET'S GO IN -- HERE IS THE THING.

IF Y'ALL WANT TO STEP OUT OF ORDER LET ME KNOW BEFORE. OTHERWISE IT IS JUST GOING TO

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GET MESSY. IS ■THAT ALLRIGHT?&-úI DON'TWAN. >> LINA HIDALGO: IT IS 12:31.

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THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING IS BACK IN SESSION. WE HAD LEFT OFF AT UNIVERSAL

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SERVICES. NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEALTH.

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COMMUNITY SERVICES. >> JUDGE, IF I COULD ON PUBLIC HEALTH, I WANT TO THANK YOU

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AND DR. SHAW WORKING THROUGH THIS WITH WALGREENS TO DO THE HIV TESTING.

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THIS IS -- IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE THIS. THERE ARE PRIVATE PHARMACIES

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WILL PARTICIPATE AS WELL. LEAP LEAN THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSION --

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU COMMISSIONER AND DR. SHAW. COUNTY LIBRARY.

YOUTH AND FAMILY SERVICES. JUVENILE PROBATION ITEM 10B2 ON PAGE 14 IS SUBJECT TO REVIEW BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR. CONSTABLES. FIRE MARSHALL.

INSTITUTE OF FORENSIC SCIENCES. COUNTY CLERK.

DISTRICT CLERK. COUNTY ATTORNEY. >> JUDGE, ON 17C THE STATEMENT

OF ETHICS COULD THE COUNTY ATTORNEY GIVE US A BRIEF -- >>

>> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT. WE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY AUDITOR AND THE COMMUNITY

SERVICES TO REPACKAGE WHAT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING.

WE ARE PUTTING A NEW LANGE -- LANGUAGE AND PUTTING -- >> ESSENTIALLY THE MAJOR ADDITION IS THE HOTLINE THAT THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE WOULD BE RUNNING AND THAT'S PART OF THE

CODE OF CONDUCT. >> THAT'S THE ONLY NEW THING? >> YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DELAY ANYTHING IN TERMS OF COMPLYING SO WE CAN DRAW DOWN MONEY AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.

I WONDER IF THIS REPRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW IN TERMS OF ETHICS. I AM ASSUME THRG IS A REASON GLO PUT IT THERE.

IF IT IS RESTATING WHAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING, IT DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL THAT ETHICAL.

I KNOW WE TALKED AND VOTED ON GOING TO THE LEGISLATURE AND ASKING FOR PERMISSION FOR LOBBY REGULARS, BUT I AM WONDERING IF THIS REQUEST GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE REQUIRE PEOPLE TO SIGN IN WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT TRYING TO GET

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SOME OF THIS MONEY X -- I KNOW THE LEGISLATE -- LEGISLATURE GAVE THEM LOBBY REGISTRATION.

AND THEY WERE DOING IT. AND THIS MIGHT. SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS -- I DON'T WANT TO DELAY IT. I WANT TO APPROVE IT, BUT HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT INSTEAD OF WEARING US OUT TODAY GOING THROUGH IT.

IT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE. I JUST DON'T THINK THEY WANT US TO SAY WE WILL KEEP DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING. IT MAY BE A WAY TO LEVERAGE THE FEDERAL MONEY AND THE REQUEST TO ADD SOME MORE STRUCTURE.

>> I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY. THIS IS NOT A DELAY OR PREVENTING THE COUNTY FROM ADOPTING OTHER CODES OF CONDUCT OR AT -- OR ADDING TO

IT. >> I WANT TO USE THIS AS THE HOOK.

>> YES, SIR, WE CAN. AND THEY ARE PART OF THE GROUP.

AND EACH COMMISSIONER HAS A REPRESENTATIVE TO REVIEW ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND KIND OF COME UP WITH A CONSENSUS OF WHAT THE COUNTY CAN DO WITHOUT FURTHER LEGISLATION AND WHAT

FURTHER LEGISLATION IS NEEDED. >> SO I WANT TO MOVE THIS AS A WORK GROUP.

MAYBE HAVE OUR STAFFS INVOLVED. THERE IS A LAUNDRY LIST OF

THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT. >> THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: CAN YOU GUYS

GO OVER ITEM E AS WELL, THE CLEAN POWER PLAN? >> THIS IS AMICUS BRIEF FROM

THE CLEAN POWER PLAN. >> WHAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS

TO MOVE AWAY FROM COAL AND TO A NATURAL GAS. >> THAT'S WHAT IT IS HERE.

YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT, JUDGE. GO AHEAD. >> HELLO AGAIN.

WE WERE ASKED BY CLIMATE NEXT SUCCESS -- NEXUS IF WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN JOINING ON AN AMICUS BRIEF THEY ARE PUTTING TOGETHER WITH THE OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE CITIES AND COUNTIES ACROSS THE NATION. IT WILL BE AT THE CLEAN POWER PLANT AND IT WAS AT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO REDUCE EMISSIONS FROM THE COAL FIRED POWER PLANT.

THEY HAVE A REPLACEMENT FOR THE CLEAN POWER PLAN AND IT HAS A REDUCTION FOR 1.5%.

IT WILL DO SO IN TWO KAY -- TWO WAYS. NUMBER ONE THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT BEAR THE BRUNT OF COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH CLIMATE CHANGE AND THAT WE HAVE AN INCREASED INFRASTRUCTURE COST AND WE ARE THE FRONT LINE TO RESPOND TO EVENTS SUCH AS HURRICANE HARVEY AND MEMORIAL DAY. IT WAS PICKING UP STORM DAMAGE AND ALL OF THE IMPACTS TO THE COMMUNITY. AND THERE IS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ANGLE IN WHAT GOVERNMENTS REGULATE. WE KNOW THAT TOO WELL IN HARRIS COUNTY. WE WILL ENACT THE FEDERAL STAN -- STANDARDS TO HELP

COMBAT CHANGE. >> TWO QUESTIONS. I WILL BE AGREEING TO PAY FOR A BRIEF THAT GOES AGAINST THE CURRENT FEDERAL POLICY. AND WE WILL BE BRIEFED ON THE

CLUE I MAT CHANGE TODAY? -- THE CLIMATE CHANGE? >> DID YOU SAY PAYING? THE COLUMBIA LAW UNIVERSITY, THEIR LAW CLINIC IS PUTTING A BRIEF TOGETHER.

SO THERE WON'T BE ANY COSTS, BUT WE WILL BE TAKING A CHANCE AGAINST THE CURRENT FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT. >> WE WILL USE THE SERVICES. >> YES, COMMISSIONER.

>> I WANT TO SAY BRAVO. I AM GLAD YOU ARE DOING IT. I DON'T THINK THERE IS ENOUGH FOR US TO JUST TALK ABOUT THE MASSIVE INVESTMENT IN TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE WITHOUT ALSO ASKING OUR OTHER PARTNERS. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO

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REACH OUT TO THE CITY AND ANY OTHER COUNTIES IN TEXAS. I THINK THE COLLECTIVE VOICES, PARTICULARLY FROM THE ENERGY CAPITAL OF THE WORLD DOES HAVE AN IMPACT.

THEY SIGNED ON TO THE BRIEF. THEY ARE WORKING TO TRY TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET THE CITY ON

BOARD. >> DO YOU WANT THIS NOW OR WILL TAKE IT AT THE END.

>> LINA HIDALGO: IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED. >> OPPOSED. >> LINA HIDALGO: MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO PUBLIC DEFENDER. THERE IS AN ITEM HERE ON PAGE 16 THAT NEEDS -- ITEM 18 AND IT NEEDS A CORRECTION AND I WILL MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE ASKED THE ITEM BE MODIFIED TO READ REQUEST FOR AUTHORIZATION TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ENGINEER TO FACILITATE OCCUPYING ADDITIONAL SPACE ON THE 12TH FLOOR OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER, AND THAT THE OFFICE OF THE COUNTY ENGINEER WORK WITH AND FIND A SUITABLE SPAIT FOR PRETRIAL SERVICES AND COMMUNITY SUPERVISION AND CORRECTIONS IN THE CJC. SO THEY WANTED TO ADD, AND COMMUNITY SUPERVISION AND CORRECTIONS AFTER PRETRIAL SERVICES.

IS THERE SOMEONE HERE FROM THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS?

>> COMMISSIONERERS, ALEX CHIEF PUBLIC DEFENDER. IN LEADING UP TO THIS I MET WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND THE ARCHITECT AT PJAL AND I HAVE TOLD THEM I HAVE RUN OUT OF SPACE. WE ARE LOOKING AT PUTTING MORE SPACE FOR ME ON THE 12TH FLOOR, BUT IT REQUIRES MOVING FOLKS OUT. I AM ASKING FOR PERMISSION FOR

THE COUNTY ENGINEER TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT ON THIS, ALEX, AND I APPRECIATE AND OF COURSE WE SAID YOU GUYS ARE GROWING AND YOU NEED SPACE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

>> I CAN'T HIRE TWO MORE PEOPLE AT THIS POINT. I HAVE NO PLACE FOR THEM.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THE FLIP SIDE OF IT IS SH, AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO JUDGES AND WE FORMED A COMMITTEE IN JANUARY BECAUSE BASICALLY THERE IS A STAND STILL IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT TO REBUILD THE CJC. THE COMMITTEE CAME TOGETHER AND VOTED TO REBUILD IT INSTEAD OF GOING TO A DIFFERENT BUILDING.

THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE OPERATIONS WHEN WE HAD THE JUSTICE MONITORS OR THE NAVIGATOR'S MONITOR. THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE. WE THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROCESS THIS REQUEST TO WORK WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS TO FIGURE OUT WHO SHOULD GO WHERE IN THE CJC.

IT HAS COME TO A POINT WHERE THIS IS COMING TO COURT SO WE INITIALLY APPROVED THIS FOR YOU, ALEX. THE CONCERN IS WE HEAR FROM OTHER FOLKS FROM PRE-TRIAL.

IF THEY ARE LATE TO ANYTHING THAT BRINGS EVERYTHING TO A STAND STILL.

SO I WANTED TO JUST PROPOSE FOR THE SAKE OF EFFICIENCY. I MEAN WE WANTED IT DONE YESTERDAY. I KNOW IT IS MOVING AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.

IN THE MEANTIME I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED ONE ENTITY HELPING TO MAKE THE DECISIONS AND ONE DEPARTMENT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND MAKING -- IN TERMS OF THESE KINDS OF REQUESTS. WE ARE NOT POSITIONED TO DO THE RESEARCH AND TO SORT OF JUDGE -- LIKE IN THE SENTENCES BETWEEN YOU AND PRETRIAL BOTH WANTING THE SAME FLOOR SO WE DISCUSSED JOHN TAKING THAT ROLE AND I WANTED TO HEAR FROM JOHN AND OF COURSE IN CONSULTATION WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.

>> I WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING -- JUDGE I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT.

YOU NEED SOMEBODY WORKING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND MAKE A DECISION AND MOVE ON.

CERTAINLY WILLING TO DO THAT. ALTHOUGH IF COURT WANTS SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT I AM

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FINE WITH THAT AS WELL. >> JUST BYWAY OF THE CONTEXT -- AM I PULLING THAT OUT? YOU CAN UNHOOK THAT THING THERE. AS I RECALL THERE WAS A STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE, WHATEVER IT WAS CALLED, AN ATTENDANCE COMMITTEE AND THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN IT WAS MOVING FORWARD AND THE D.A.'S OFFICE WAS TALKING TO ME ABOUT A HOST OF CONCERNS. I WAS SAYING WELL, YOU ALL SHOULD -- INSTEAD OF ME TRYING TO BECOME AN EXPERT JUST COME IN HERE AND SAY IT, AND THEN I THINK HER THE D.A. OR SOMEBODY CAME OVER AND IT WAS THE LAST COURT AND ABOUT THIS TIME LAST YEAR.

COMMISSIONER RADACK IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT MADE A MOTION TO STOP IT AND I THINK I SECONDED IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS DONE IN A TIMELY WAY.

I THINK WHAT IS HAPPENING IS IT IS HARD FOR ANYBODY TO BE HAPPY.

WE ALL ARE SORRY THAT HARVEY CAME. AND THEN ANOTHER ONE CAME AFTER THAT. EVERYBODY WAS AN LIG ON HOW -- ANGLIG ON HOW THEY CAN GET A NEW COURTHOUSE. I THINK IT WAS AT THIS TABLE THAT MR. SWORD OR MR. JACKSON POINTED OUT, WHAT WAS IT 500 MILLION FOR A NEW BUILDING? AND THEN THERE THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON A VOTE, A PUBLIC VOTE.

NOT THAT THAT'S REQUIRED, BUT THAT HAS BEEN THE TRADITION. I ASSUME THAT WAS -- THE SENTIMENT WAS THAT IF WE DID IT AND RIPPED OUT THE CREDIT CARD TO DO IT, IT WOULD GO TO THE VOTERS. AND THAT'S WHAT IT CAME TO MY MIND THAT THEY SAY IT IS A VOTE OF THIS COURT. I'M THINKING THE VOTERS WOULD TURN US DOWN IN A NEW YORK MINUTE. WE ENDED UP WITH THIS CONVOLUTED SYSTEM WHERE EVERYTHING STOPPED FOR MONTHS. AND THEN YOU AND COMMISSIONER GARCIA CAME AND NOW THERE ARE A HOST OF OTHER THINGS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AT SOME POINT NOBODY WOULD BE HAPPY. I DON'T CARE IF IT IS PRETRIAL OR WHATEVER IT IS.

SOME PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO WALK IN THE RAIN OR ALT HEAT -- OR A LITTLE HEAT.

IT IS WHAT IT IS HOW CAN WE DO THIS IN SUCH A WAY WE DON'T END WITH PEOPLE TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE OF INACTION BECAUSE EVERYONE IS TRYING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY AND AT SOME POINT JUST DO IT. HOW DO WE DO THAT?

>> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER, THAT'S THE MOTION I AM PROPOSING.

THEY NEED TO BE KEPT UH PRIZED AND INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSION, ALL OF YOU GUYS.

I THINK PART OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING EARLIER IS NOBODY -- THESE STAKEHOLDERS, YOU GUYS WERE THERE EVERY DAY AND WEREN'T SURE WHAT WAS UP. AND THAT WAS THE BENEFIT OF SITTING DOWN AND SAYING WHAT DO WE WANT? BUT IN TERMS OF WHILE THE CJC GETS BUILT, WHILE THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE STUDY IS FINISHED WHICH WILL TAKE AWHILE FOR THEM TO GET TO THIS QUESTION, WE NEED TO -- SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE IN CHARGE OF MAKING OUR BEST EFFORTS IN BROKERING THESE CONFLICTING REQUESTS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE IS THAT WE MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE THE COUNTY ENGINEER FULL AUTHORITY TO ASSIGN ALL TEMPORARY SPACE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER AND TO ASSIGN ANY DEPARTMENTS TEMPORARILY DISPLACED FROM THE CJC TO OTHER FACILITIES AS NEEDED UNTIL RECONSTRUCTION OF THE CJC IS COMPLETE. THE CON -- COUNTY ENGINEER WILL CONSULT WITH THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND STAKEHOLDERSS IN DETERMINING THE APPROPRIATE ASSIGNMENTS.

THAT'S MY PROPOSAL, COMMISSIONER TO BREAK THE LOG JAM.

>> WHEN IT IS MY TURN, THE JUDGE TENDS TO LOOK IN YOUR DIRECTION MORE BECAUSE ARE YOU

PRETTIER THAN I AM. >> I APPRECIATE THE COMPLIMENT.

DO YOU WANT SOME PICTURES ? >> JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO BE PUT ON THE POINT OF THAT SPEAR? YOU ARE GONNA MAKE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ANGRY IF YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING THE DECISION.

>> I TEND TO DO THAT ALL THE TIME SO I CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

>> WOULD YOU PREFER I DO IT? >> JUDGE CAN I ADD ONE FACT. WHEN THIS ISSUE CAME UP I WENT TO JOHN AND HE SUGGESTED I TAKE IT TO THE ATTENDANCE COMMITTEE.

I MET WITH THE CHAIR, JUDGE ROBERT SCHAEFER AND HE AGREED THAT THIS KIND OF ISSUE IS TOO UNWIELDY FOR THAT QUESTION -- FOR THAT COMMITTEE. REALLY THERE NEEDS TO BE A

SINGLE VOICE AND SO I AGREE WITH YOUR MOTION, JUDGE. >> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT. >> I AM FOR IT AS LONG AS MR. BLUNT -- THE PART OF THE CONSULTATION DOESN'T MEAN -- IF YOU CAN'T GET IT ON THE ROOM PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

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HOW MUCH OF THE BUILDING IS UNOCCUPIED RIGHT NOW THAT SOMEBODY COULD BE IN?

>> VERY LITTLE. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REMODELING AT THE SAME TIME.

SO IT IS IN CONSTANT FLUX. >> WE PUT A HALT BECAUSE PEOPLE SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT

TO GO BACK. >> ORIGINALLY IT WAS DONE. >> IT WASN'T THAT I WANT A CERTAIN COLOR. YOU HAD A SENTIMENT, YOU WANT A NEW BUILDING AND BY GOD WE ARE GETTING A NEW BUILDING. FOR THE LIFE OF ME, THIS DIDN'T JUST COME OUT OF THIN AIR. YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I AM FOR. IT BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT WAITING AND WE ARE GETTING ENOUGH CRITICISM OF OTHER STUFF THAT IS OUT OF CONTROL. THIS IS ONE THAT IS IN OUR

CONTROL. >> I WILL CONSULT WITH EVERYBODY.

>> LINA HIDALGO: AND THE IDEA IS THESE DO LEM PLUS -- DILEMMAS WILL STOP COMING TO COURT AND HE CAN DEAL WITH IT. OF COURSE WE WILL HAVE THE FEEDBACK IF YOU WANT, BUT THEY ARE THE ONES RUNNING DOWN WELL WHO IS DOING WHAT AND WHY AND TALK TO JIM AND ALEX AND THE JUDGES AND THE D.A. AND EVERYTHING.

>> HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE? SOMEBODY TELLS YOU WHAT WE WANT, WHAT WE NEED AND HOW LONG IT TAKES, A YEAR? SIX MONTHS ?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE. WE ARE MAKING A LOT OF ROUGHING -- PROGRESS. THERE IS A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE.

IT IS JUST THE FIRST PHASE. WE HAVEN'T APPROVED THE SECOND PHASE WHICH IS ADDING THE EXTRA ELEVATORS AND THE EXTRA THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. THIS IS JUST BRING THE FLOOR

BACK TO THE PREVIOUS CONDITION. >> KEEPING IT MOVING I WILL MAKE A REQUEST INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA. GIVE US A MONTHLY UPDATE.

IT CAN TAKE THREE MINUTES. IT WILL GIVE YOU EMPHASIS TO TELL PEOPLE THEY WILL ASK AND

IT WILL COME UP AT THE TABLE. THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

AND KEEP THEM POSTED. ALEX, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

>> PRB INAUDIBLE WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO REREAD THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. THAT WAS PUBLIC DEFENDER AND NOW PRETRIAL.

DISTRICT COURTS. >> MR. SWORD. >> YES, SIR, PAGE 15.

ITEM EIGHT. DID Y'ALL LOOK OVER THAT? >> WE WILL.

I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE VEHICLE PURCHASED BY THE PROMISE -- PROMISARY? JUDGE, I REQUEST THAT BE REFERRED TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND WE WILL BRING IT

BACK. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL RIGHT. NOTED.

THANK YOU. WE WERE UNDER PRETRIAL. DISTRICT COURTS.

CAROLINE CORONADO HAD SIGNED UP FOR AN ITEM UNDER DISTRICT COURTS IF SHE IS STILL HERE.

>> I THINK SHE ALREADY SPOKE. >> LINA HIDALGO: YES, SHE SPOKE UNDER BUDGET MANAGEMENT, BUT I WANTED TO CALL HER. THANK YOU. TRAVEL AND TRAINING.

GRANTS. ON PAGE 21 ITEM 22 IN, WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE AMOUNT FROM 135,000 TO 132,000 -- 132,777. FISCAL SERVICES AND

PURCHASING. >> 22 IS THE -- IF THE AUDITOR CAN GO OVER WHAT THAT IS. ITEM A4 ADJUSTING POLICIES TO

STREAM LINE THE PROCESS. >> FROM TIME TO TIME COMMISSIONERS HAVE MADE COMMENTS ABOUT WHY IS THIS LITTLE AGENDA ITEM HERE? WHY DO WE HAVE TO PROVE SOMETHING FOR $500? AS A RESULT OF THESE COMMENTS BEING MADE SEVERAL OF US FROM

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THE BUDGET OFFICE, BARBARA ARMSTRONG FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND MYSELF HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME POLICIES FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THAT WOULD TAKE SOME OF THESE SMALL AGENDA ITEMS OFF THE AGENDA.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS NOW. IF YOU LIKE I CAN QUICKLY GO OVER WHAT THOSE ARE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: QUICK. >> ONE WOULD BE TO SAY THAT IF AN ITEM IS LESS THAN $5,000 FOR A DISPERSE MEANT, JUST REFER THAT AND SEND THAT TO ACCOUNTS PAYABLE.

WE WILL REVIEW IT IF THE BUDGET AUTHORIZATION, IF IT IS A PROPER ITEM AND THEN WE WILL PROCESS IT FOR PAYMENT. ONE COMPLICATION TO THAT IS THERE IS A POLICY ESTABLISHED BY COURT. I THINK IT WAS LAST ADJUSTED IN 2008 THAT SAYS IF A PERSON WHO IS GETTING MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT OF $675 IN A MONT, THEN THEY HAVE TO COME TO COURT AND SAY IS IT OKAY IF I AM REIMBURSED MORE THAN THAT? THIS AMOUNT HAS BEEN CONSTANT, BUT THE RATE AT WHICH AN EMPLOYEE IS REIMBURSED FLUXUTES, AND WE NOTICED THAT BACK IN 1993 WHEN THE RATES SET BY THE COURT WAS 600 DOLLARS.

AN EMPLOYEE WOULD HAVE TO COME TO COURT IF THEY TRAVELED MORE THAN $2,143 -- MORE THAN 2,143 MILES. BECAUSE THE RATES WENT UP, THE REIMBURSEMENT RATE AND THE AMOUNT, THE THRESHOLD STAYED CONSTANT PRETTY MUCH. AND NOW YOU HAVE TO GO TO COURT IF YOU EXCEED 764 MILES. WE ARE SUGGESTING DON'T TIE IT TO DOLLARS. TIE IT TO AN AMOUNT OF MILES. THEN IT WILL FLOAT AS THE REIMBURSEMENT RATES CHANGE. NUMBER TWO OF THE THREE. WE HAVE PAYROLL RELATED ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. WE HAD ONE ON THIS AGENDA THAT IS REFERRED TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR. WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT IF YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE -- I DIDN'T GET MY INCENTIVE PAPERWORK IN ON TIME OR IT IS MORE THAN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PAY PERIODS WHERE I AM MAKING A CORRECTION TO SOMEBODY'S TIME SHEET THAT INSTEAD OF THOSE GOING ON THE AGENDA THOSE BE SUBMITTED TO THE AUDITOR'S PAYROLL DEPARTMENT, WE WILL REVIEW IT, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THE CALCULATED -- THE CALCULATIONS ARE CORRECT AND IT WILL TAKE THE ITEMS OFF THE AGENDA. AND THE THIRD THING IS EVERY TIME THE IRS CHANGES THEIR REIMBURSEMENT RATE THE COUNTY CHANGES ITS RATE TO MATCH AND WE PUT AN AGENDA ITEM ON COURT SAYING CAN WE CHANGE? AND WE ALWAYS DO. THE THIRD PART OF THIS WILL BE JUST TO AUTHORIZE A CHANGE IN THE COUNTY'S REIMBURSEMENT RATE WHEN THE IRS RATE CHANGES AND THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE AN AGENDA ITEM. ALL OF THESE ARE FOR THE COURT'S CONSIDERATION. IF THE COURT LIKES ANY OF THEM OR ALL OF THEM, THEN WE WOULD

BE HAPPY TO MAKE THIS THE NEW POLICY. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO

MUCH. THANK YOU. >> JUDGE, ON THE REIMBURSEMENT OF MILEAGE, A FEW YEARS AGO WE NOTED IN PUBLIC HEALTH THAT PEOPLE WERE GETTING MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT THAT FAR EXCEEDED WHAT IT WOULD COST TO RENT A FUEL EFFICIENT CAR.

AND SO THEY PUT IN A POLICY WHERE I WOULD SAY IF WE DO PASS THIS WE ARE STILL GOING TO COME BACK TO AND DO THOSE ANALYSIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THE MOST FUEL EFFICIENT CARS AND WE ARE NOT EXCEEDING A CERTAIN AMOUNT A MONTH.

THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF WE JUST PROVIDED A CAR THAT WAS $400 OR $500 A MONTH

INSTEAD OF PAYING SOMEBODY $800 OR $900 REIMBURSEMENT. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU ALL. SO THAT IS AUDITOR. AUDITOR ASKED NO ACTION BE TAKEN ON ITEM A7 ON PAGE 22. NOW WE HAVE A SPEAKER ON ITEM D12 ON PAGE 24 AND THAT IS

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CHRIS -- ANDREW. >> JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, COUNTY STAFF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ANDREW AND I AM A SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT WITH ICF. I DO WANT TO SAY TODAY I DON'T COME BEARING ANY MISSILES.

THIS IS A PEACEFUL VISIT. I I DO WANT TO SAY, HOWEVER, WE STAND BY OUR WORK IN HARRIS COUNTY,ING THAT OUR PRIORITY IS TODAY AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS AFTER WHAT IS TRULY A HISTORIC CATASTROPHE AND TO GET THEM BACK ON THEIR FEET AS THEY MARCH TO THE PATH OF RECOVERY. WE DO DISAGREE WITH THE COUNTY DECISION. THAT'S IT. WE RESPECT IT AND WE WILL HONOR IT. WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY TOO THAT TO DATE WE HAVE MANAGED TO REACH 17,729 RESIDENTS. WE HAVE CONDUCTED INTAKE FROM MORE THAN 8400 HOUSEHOLDS.

WE HAVE DONE OUT REACH EVENTS FOR NORTH OF 13,000 RESIDENTS.

WE HAVE 1250 RESIDENTS IN VARIOUS APPLICATION STAGES AND WE HAVE SUBMITTED MORE THAN 870 APPLICATIONS TO DATE. EACH OF THESE ARE ON PAR WITH WHAT OUR ORIGINAL EXPECTATION WAS. AND WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO SUPPORT THE RESIDENTS.

WHILE WE DON'T AGREE WITH THE DECISION WE WILL CONTINUE TO FULLY SUPPORT THE COUNTY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE TRANSITION AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN TAKE WHATEVER STEPS WE CAN TO ENSURE THE BEST OUTCOMES FOR HARRIS COUNTY RESIDENTS AND FOR OUR LOCAL EMPLOYEES AND FOR OUR LOCAL PARTNERS. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER GARCIA HAS

THAT -- HAS A COMMENT FOR YOU. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN HERE AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THE DECISION ASIDE I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO STEP UP AND GIVE US A SHOT AND GIVE US THE OLD MAN'S TRY IF YOU WILL IN TRYING TO CONTEND WITH THE RECOVERY PROCESS.

IT IS VERY COMPLICATED, A LOT OF MOVING PIECES IN IT, AND WE GOT A LOT OF EX -- OF FOLKS AT STAKE. OVER EFFORTS ARE TO DO -- OUR EFFORTS ARE TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS ON THEIR BEHALF. THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH

US. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

AND WE HAVE BEEN VERY CONSISTENT IN TRYING TO FIND ACCOUNTABILITY EVEN IF IT IS WITHIN OUR OWN SHOP AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

>> THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: FLOOD CONTROL ASKS THAT ITEM 13L ON PAGE 25, THAT NO ACTION BE TAKEN ON THIS ITEM. GREAT.

THANK YOU. >> PAGE? >> LINA HIDALGO: PAGE 25, 13L. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

>> JUDGE, I WILL SAY -- WE KILL MOVE ON, BUT I -- WE WILL MOVE ON, BUT I WANT TO GET A

SENSE -- I WANT TO GET A SENSE OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY. >> LINA HIDALGO: SURE.

>> I WANT TO KEEP MOVING. >> LINA HIDALGO: LET'S DO THAT.

WE HAVE SPEAKERS ON THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ITEMS. SO LET'S DO THAT AND THEN COME BACK OUT. SO ON 24A UNDER COUNTY JUDGE AND THE REFUGEE LETTER I WANT TO SHOW YOU AND PASS THESE OUT. WE ADDED ONE PARAGRAPH AT THE END AND I WILL READ IT. SO THERE IS -- THE LAST PARAGRAPH WILL READ HARRIS COUNTY HAS RECEIVED A REQUEST TO PROVIDE CONSENT PURSUANT TO THE EXECUTIVE ORDER FROM THE HOUSTON REFUGEE CONSORTIUM INCLUDING CATHOLIC CHARITIES, THE ALLIANCE, BILINGUAL INSTITUTE, INTER FAITH FOR GREATER HOUSTON, REFUGEE SERVICES OF TEXAS AND THE YMCA OF GREATER HOUSTON. HARRIS COUNTY APPROVES THE PARTICIPATION OF THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSTON REFUGEE CON COR -- CON COR -- CONSORTIUM. THAT'S THE ONLY EDIT.

THAT'S THE ONLY -- YES. >> SECOND. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR

-- >> I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT BEFORE I SAY A YES ON THAT.

THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH OUR OFFICES AND ALLOWING US TO HAVE A LITTLE WIN.

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CATHOLIC CHARITIES ARE HERE AND THEY HAVE DONE GREAT WORK WITH REGARD TO THE GREAT ISSUES, BUT THERE ARE CONCERNS WE HAVE BY HAVING THIS LANGUAGE ADDED THAT I THINK WE

CAN RESOLVE ALL OF THOSE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AS WELL.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

SO THAT'S IT FOR COUNTY JUDGE PRECINCT 1. THE OTHER SPEAKERS IN CASE THEY CAME, SANDRA SMALL, ALEX BRANCH, RHONDA POWELL, SANDRA EDWARDS, SOPHIE DALBERG AND

BARBARA BEALE. COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 2. >> THANK YOU, JUDGE.

THANK YOU JUDGE. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ON THE ITEM -- ON I A -- ON ITEM THREE. JUST TO SAY I SEE DEN KNIT HERE -- I SEE DENNIS HERE AND OTHERS AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS A HISTORIC RELATIONSHIP WE ARE BUILDING.

I JUST WANT TO COMMEND OUR PARTNERS AND ACC AND OTHERS FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO MEET US HALFWAY. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, JUDGE, I THINK -- NOT THAT I THINK, BUT I KNOW AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE A HUGE HAND IN MAKING THIS HAPPEN AND SO PRECINCT 2 IS GRATEFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. IT WAS THROUGH YOUR WORK AT THE TIME THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT OR OUR CITIZENS DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO EFFECTIVE DATA. YOU CHAMPIONS A GAP ANALYSIS STUDY TO HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN. AND WE ARE RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAVE A PART TO PLAY. AND IT IS AN ITEM I AM PUTTING ON THE TABLE AND IT BENEFITS ALL OF HARRIS COUNTY BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW WELL JUDGE THAT DURING THE FIRE THEY ARE GETTING CALLS FROM COMMISSIONER RADACK'S PRECINCT.

HOW TIMELY WAS THE DATA. ALL OF THESE ARE ISSUES THAT THIS CONTRIBUTION IN THE TUNE OF A MILLION DOLLARS WILL MOVE US FURTHER ALONG IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND DEMONSTRATE THAT WE CAN BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. WE SHARE A LOT OF THE SAME COMMUNITY AND WHETHER IT IS ACTUAL NEIGHBORS AND WHETHER IT IS IN THE WORKFORCE.

WE ALL NEED INDUSTRY TO BE SUCCESSFUL. IT IS THE STATE ECONOMY AND THE NATIONAL ECONOMY AND THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. AND WE NEED YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZEN THAT'S ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS DO FEEL HURT AND THIS IS AN ITEM THAT ACCOMPLISHES ALL OF THAT. AND SO I AM EXCITED AND I WANT

TO MOVE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. >> I THINK THIS IS AN AWESOME ITEM. I WANT TO THANK THE ACC FOUNDATION FOR THE DONATION.

I BELIEVE IT IS UNDER PRE SINK 2, BUT -- PRECINCT 2, BUT IT GOES TO DR. BADEN'S OFFICE -- DR. BAR BOUGHT'S OFFICE -- DR. BAR BOUGHT'S OFFICE. I BELIEVE IT IS CALLED A BLUE SKY BASELINE. AND SO THAT WE WILL KNOW WHETHER THERE IS A PROBLEM OR NOT. RIGHT NOW IF THERE IS AN EVENT , YOU MAY BE ABLE TO MEASURE WHAT IS THERE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS NORMAL OR NOT NORMAL.

AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD THING TO DO. THIS IS A -- THIS IS GONNA ALLOW DR. BABBOT TO FULFILL HER PROMISE AND LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND WE WILL BE ASSISTING OUR FIRE MARSHALL AND DR. SHAW. I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP. I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR MAKING THIS DONATION.

IT WILL ENSURE EVERYTHING IS DONE RIGHT IN THE FUTURE. GOOD JOB.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I THINK IT OPENS THE DOOR FOR COLLABORATION AND YOU HAVE CREATED A MODEL THAT FOLKS CAN BUILD ON.

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>> I SUPPORT THE MODEL YOU CREATED. THANK YOU.

>> LINA HIDALGO: PRECINCT 3. >> AND QUICKLY, DENNIS, DID YOU WANT TO SHARE ANY WORDS?

>> COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU, AND FOR THE RECORD I AM DENNIS WINKLER REPRESENTING THE MANUFACTURERS ASSOCIATION. YOU SAID VERY MUCH OF WHAT I HAD.

I WANT TO SAY FIRST OFF AS AN ASSOCIATION AND AS AN INDUSTRY WE REACHED OUT TO YOU THROUGH PRECINCT 2 AND YOUR STAFF AND JUDGE HIDALGO I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR THE ROLE THEY PLAYED IN THESE INCIDENTS AND WE REVIEWED GAP ANALYSIS. WE SAW THAT THERE WAS A NEED AND ALONG WITH OUR FEDERAL ASSOCIATION, THE AMERICAN CHEMISTRY COUNCIL AND THROUGH THE ACC FOUNDATION WE FELT WE COULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE NEEDS IDENTIFIED IN THE GAP ANALYSIS AND IN RECENT INCIDENTS. WE STAND WITH YOU AS INDUSTRY COMMITTED TO HARRIS COUNTY AND COMMITTED TO THE RESIDENTS OF EAST HARRIS COUNTY AND THE ENTIRE COUNTY THAT WE WILL

HAVE BETTER DATA NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> JUDGE, THANK YOU.

I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, DENNIS, AND TO ALL OF THE PARTNERS.

THIS WAS A GROUP EFFORT ON BEHALF OF ACC AND I WANT TO THANK THE ECONOMIC ALLIANCE.

WHEN WE WERE IN DC TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA THAT WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER. WE ALL HAVE SIMILAR INTERESTS HOW TO COLLABORATE MORE EFFECTIVELY AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE CREATION OF A MODEL THAT COULD BE A NATIONAL MODEL. AND I THINK THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE STEP IN THAT DIRECTION. I HOPE THAT THIS PARTNERSHIP IN COLLABORATION GROWS AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER. WE HAD THE FORUM THE OTHER DAY AND A LOT OF -- I WAS JUST EXCITED TO HEAR THE CONVERSATION COMING FROM OUR INDUSTRY LEADERS.

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A MODEL THAT ACC AND OTHERS CAN TAKE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO OTHER AREAS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO PRECINCT 2. MAYBE NOT TO THE MAGNITUDE WE ARE, BUT SIMILAR IN THE NEIGHBORS OF INDUSTRY AND COMMUNITY.

AGAIN, THANK YOU AND PLEASE CONVEY TO YOUR MEMBER THAT'S WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE

PARTNERSHIP. >> I WILL DO THAT, COMMISSIONER.

IF I MAY, MAY I RECOGNIZE ANNE COULTON WHO IS VICE PRESIDENT WITH THE BUSINESS AND SHE IS A

MODEL FOR ALL OF US TO FOLLOW. >> THANK YOU.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HELPING US BUILD OUT THAT AIR MONITOR NETWORK.

THANK YOU. >> MOKES. >> -- MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR?

MOTION CARRIES. >> IT IS ACTUALLY MY ITEM, BUT HE SECONDED ON IT.

>> LINA HIDALGO: HE MOVED IT. >> DO YOU WANT TO VOTE ON YOUR ITEM AS WELL, COMMISSION SNEER.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO -- COMMISSIONER? >> I WOULD LOVE TO.

>> LINA HIDALGO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION? NO, FOR HIS.

ALL IN FAVOR? >> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIES. PRECINCT 4. >> JUDGE I DO MAKE A MOTION WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM THAT I WANT TO BEGIN BY SAYING THAT MY COLLEAGUE FROM PRECINCT 1 RAISED THIS ISSUE TWO YEARS AGO. OR A YEAR AND 11 MONTHS AGO ABOUT HOW WE HANDLED THE ISSUE OF THE MAGISTRATE. SINCE THAT TIME PERIOD THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE WASN'T ENOUGH WORK TO DO FOR SOME OF THE JUDGES.

I THINK -- I WAS LOOKING FOR IT AND I THOUGHT YOU HAD SAID THIS COMMISSIONER ELLIS, BUT I DIDN'T FIND IT IN YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE WHY DO WE MAGISTRATES? WHY DO -- WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE JUDGES MAKING THE DECISIONS BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE DISCRETION THAN WHAT THE MAGISTRATE HAS. THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE.

I DON'T THINK WE ARE ALLOWED AS COMMISSIONER'S COURT TO GET INVOLVED IN INDIVIDUAL

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DECISIONS ON MAGISTRATES OR HOW THEY ARE SELECTED. I DO THINK THE PRIOR QUESTION THAT THE COMMISSIONER OF PRECINCT 1 ASKED IS WHY DO WE HAVE THEM AND WHETHER OR NOT OUR JUDGES THAT DO HAVE DISCRETION AND CAN BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE DISCRETION SHOULD NOT BE IN A PLACE TO BE THERE WHERE THEY EXERCISE IT AND A WAY THEY APPRECIATE OR THE PUBLIC APPRECIATES. THE PUBLIC HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS EITHER THEIR PLEASURE OR DISPLEASUR AT THE VOTING BOX.

TO THAT EXTENT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TALK ON THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THAT.

MR. SWORD, AM I -- >> YOU'RE CORRECT. YOU CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IS ON THE AGENDA, BUT AS FAR AS THIS COURT HAVING ANY DIRECT CONTROL OVER THE MAGISTRATE, THE COMMISSION -- THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT DOES

NOT. >> JUDGE, I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE LISTENING TO WHAT I SAY. I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING. MY LAWYER AT THE TIME WOULD ADVISE ME ON SUBJECT MATTERS -- I WOULDN'T WANT TO BRING ONE OF YOUR STAFFERS IN TO TESTIFY UNLESS I CAN GET COMMISSION, BUT I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUE TO TALK TO MY FORMER COUNSEL. SHE CAN GIVE YOU THE PRO'S AND THE CONS, AND I PULLED HER FILE SHE GAVE ME ON THE SUBJECT. I THINK FROM MY RECOLLECTION I WAS MAKING POINT THAT IF THE JUDGE HEARD THEY WOULD INCREASE THE CASE LOAD FOR JUDGES AND THEY WOULD WORK AT NIGHT AS WELL BECAUSE WHEN THAT LAWSUIT STARTED THERE WAS AN ISSUE OF -- SOME WOULD CALL IT IS TV JUDGE. REMEMBER FROM THOSE FAMOUS TAPES? THEY AUTOMATED THE SYSTEM. I DON'T WANT TO TIE US UP TODAY AND YOU ARE GETTING HUNGRY AND WE ARE GETTING ALONG SO WELL AND I DON'T WANT

YOU GETTING GRUMPY. SHE CAN WALK YOU THROUGH IT. >> LINA HIDALGO: WE HAVE SPEAKERS YOU SAID? PATRICK MCCANN, JOSEPH VENUS, KATHY FRASIER.

I THINK THAT'S IT. >> APPARENTLY I AM THE ONLY ONE STILL HERE.

YES, MY NAME IS KATIE FRASIER AND I AM A RESIDENT OF NASSAU BAY WHERE WE HAD THE LAST OFFICER. I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE FELONY MURDER CHARGES AND THE BOND THAT WAS SET IN THE HENDERSON CASE. I HAVE HEARD THE D.A.'S EXPLANATION THAT THE PUBLIC WAS NEVER REALLY IN DANGER AND THAT THERE WAS ALREADY ANOTHER BOND REVOKED AS IF SOMEHOW THIS SHOULD COMFORT ME THAT YOU HAVE ONLY DISRESPECTED THIS OFFICER AND HER NAME AND HER SERVICE, YOU KNOW, BY PAPERWORK ONLY.

I HAVE A REAL CONCERN ABOUT THE TONE THAT WE ARE SETTING IN THE OFFICE.

EVERY TIME I HEAR FROM THE D.A.'S OFFICE IT SOUNDS LIKE I AM LISTENING TO A DEFENSE ATTORNEY. IT IS ALMOST AS IF WE ARE MOUNTING THE DEFENSE FROM THE BENCH AT THE ACTUAL BOND HEARING. LIKE WE ARE STARTING IT THERE. I REALLY FIND THAT UNACCEPTABLE.

PERHAPS YOU ARE CONFUSED ABOUT WHICH SIDE OF THE COURTROOM YOU ARE ACTUALLY WORKING.

WHEN D.A. OPP WAS ASKED WHETHER SHE WILL PURSUE THE DEATH PENALTY ON THE MURDER SHE GAVE A FOUR-LINE EXPLANATION ABOUT COMMITTEES AND TIMELINES AND WHETHER OR NOT SHE WOULD DO THAT. AS A CON STITCH -- CONSTITUENT I WANT TO HEAR CAR -- SERGEANT BREWSTER WAS GUNNED DOWN PROTECTING THE CITIZENS COUNTY.

AS YOUR D.A. I WOULD PROSECUTE TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW, THE END.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ELSE. I KNOW I'M SPEAKING TO KIND OF THE NEW GUARD OF THE SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS, BUT I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS A STRONG TRADITION THAT WE ARE PROUD OF THAT WE PROTECT OUR OFFICERS AND THAT WE STAND BEHIND THEM. WHEN YOU PUT DOWN CHARGES LIKE THAT THAT DON'T RESPECT OUR OFFICERS' POSITION AS A PROTECTED MEMBER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE -- I MEAN, WE ARE THE FOURTH LARGEST CITY IN THE

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NATION, TO THE PUBLIC IT LOOKS LIKE YOU EITHER, A, DON'T SUPPORT YOUR OFFICERS OR B, YOU ARE INCOMPETENT. I DON'T KNOW WHICH IS WORSE. THAT'S THE FEELING THAT THE

PUBLIC HAS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

YES, COMMISSIONER CAGLE. COMMISSIONER GARCIA HAS A COMMENT FOR YOU.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU LEAVE HERE KNOWING THAT OUR AREA LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS MY FULL SUPPORT, AND I BELIEVE THIS BODY'S FULL SUPPORT. SOMETIMES WITH THESE ISSUES UNDERSTANDING THE INFORMATION IS SOMETIMES A MOVING L -- A MOVING THING.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN THE CONCERN OF THE BOND CAME OUT AND WE UNDERSTOOD IT, THERE IS A LOT OF CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS NO DISRESPECT TO THE LIFE AND THE SERVICE OF ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND A LOT OF RESEARCH WAS DONE BY A LOT OF PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING WAS FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS. KNOW THAT I SHARE YOUR CONCERN

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY. >> SHE WAS CLEARLY A PROTECTED SERVICE MEMBER AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS A DIFFICULT CASE.

I OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTAND THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, BUT SHE WAS

CLEARLY A PROTECTED MEMBER. THERE IS NO IF, ANDS OR BUTS. >> THANK YOU.

>> NO, THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: PATRICK MCCANN.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS PATRICK MCCANN. I AM A DEFENSE ATTORNEY HERE IN HOUSTON.

I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ACCLA. AND I BELIEVE YOU ALL RECEIVED A LETTER FROM ACCLA. I WANT TO HONOR THE SERVICE OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AT THIS TABLE AND MY TWO BROTHERS WHO WERE ON THE JOB.

ONE IS MEDICALLY RETIRED AND ONE REENLISTED AFTER 9/11. NO ONE WANTS OUR OFFICERS TO BE HURT OR INJURED, YET TODAY'S I WOULD HAVE SMACKED OF AN INDEPENDENT JUDICIARY TO PLACE POTENTIAL DISCIPLINE AND CRITICISM OF A MAGISTRATE ON A PUBLIC AGENDA WHEN THEY WERE FOLLOWING THE LAW IN BOTH ITS LETTER AND IN ITS SPIRIT IS WRONG.

RESPECTFULLY SIR IT IS WRONG FOR YOU TO BRING IT UP. RESPECTFULLY TO ALL OF YOU IT IS WRONG IN THE SAME WAY WHEN IT IS DONE BY SOMEBODY AT 1600 PENNSYLVANIA OR WHETHER IT IS DONE HERE. NO ONE WANTS TO FOLLOW THE LAW MORE THAN A GOOD, HARD-WORKING COP. IN OUR SYSTEM THERE ARE VERY, VERY LIMITED CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH BOND CAN BE DENIED. IN A CAPITAL MURDER CASE ONLY A DISTRICT COURT JUDGE HAS THAT RESPONSIBILITY. ONLY AFTER IT PROVES THE HEARING.

PERIOD. THIS IS A TEST OF WHETHER AFTER THE SETTLEMENT THAT TOOK SO MANY YEARS TO NEGOTIATE AND WHETHER AFTER ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE HAVE GATHERED IN THESE LAST FEW YEARS ABOUT HOW BONDS ARE APPLIED UNJUSTLY AND INEQUITABLY THIS IS A TEST OF OUR WILL TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND THE PRINCIPALS THERE -- THERE IN.

FORTUNATELY AS ALL OF YOU KNOW THE VIT IT -- THE INDIVIDUAL IT WAS SET UPON WILL THOUGHT BE OUT BECAUSE SADLY LIKE MANY CRIMINALS THEY HAVE PRIORS THAT WIND UP KEEPING THEM INSIDE BECAUSE THEY MADE BAD ERRORS? JUDGMENT BEFORE THESE TRAGEDIES. FOR ALL OF US IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THE BONDS EXIST FOR US. AS PEOPLE AND CITIZENS AND AS LOVED ONES.

AND THERE ARE CHARGES NOW WHATEVER THE RESULT MAY BE AND NONE OF US KNOW THAT.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND THEN COMMISSIONER ELLIS. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU

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FOR SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS AND I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT ON A LOT OF POINTS.

I TELL YOU WHAT, HAVING BEEN IN A PATROL CAR LONGER THAN ANY OTHER CHAIR I HAVE SAT IN, THERE WAS A LOT OF FRUSTRATING MOMENTS WHEN YOU WORK SO HARD TO SOLVE A CASE ON BEHALF OF A VICTIM AND THEN YOU FEEL LIKE THE GUY WAS WALKING OUT OF THE JAIL HOUSE BEFORE WE GOT THROUGH WITH OUR PAPERWORK. WE WERE ALWAYS LIKE WHY IS THE JUDGE DOING THIS? AND SO WE HAVE TO -- IT IS ALWAYS A COMPLICATED THING EAST SPCIALGLY -- ESPECIALLY THE MOST EMOTIONAL CASES TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS.

THERE IS NEVER A PERFECT SYSTEM. I THINK HARRIS COUNTY HAS ONE OF THE BEST. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND SHARING YOUR

THOUGHTS. >> I APPRECIATE THAT SENTIMENT.

I THINK MY BROTHER, MIKE, WOULD BE IN 100% AGREEMENT WITH YOU.

I THINK HIS FRUSTRATION FOR ALL OF THE CASES WHERE HE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WERE GOING TO BE RECEIVING THAT PERSON BACK, THAT WAS ALWAYS ON HIS MIND.

>> WHERE DOES HE WORK? >> LOWELL -- MY HOMETOWN IS IN MASSACHUSETTS.

HE IS MEDICALLY RETIRED AS A SERGEANT. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: GIVE HIM OUR

APPRECIATION AND RESPECT. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. RODRIGUEZ THANK YOU FOR M --

>> RODNEY ELLIS: THANK YOU FOCH -- THANK YOU FOR COMING. IT TAKES A LOT OF COURAGE.

WE FEEL A LOSS OF ANYONE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. I DO WANT TO STRESS THAT WHEN I BROUGHT THE ISSUE UP BEFORE IT WAS AFTER MAGISTRATES HAD BEEN SANCTIONED.

AND THEN I BROUGHT IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AT THIS TABLE. IT WAS AFTER THERE WAS A VERSION DUE PROCESS. THE QUESTION WAS THEY HAD BEEN SANCTIONED SO WHAT ROLE CAN WE PLAY? YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THERE WERE OTHER CASES ON THE OTHER SIDE I COULDN'T PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO POLITICIZE

THESE ISSUES. >> I DON'T TAKE THAT THIS WAY.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE WHO HAS HAD A LOVED ONE WHO HAS WALKED THE BEAT, I DON'T THINK ANYONE TAKES IT ANY OTHER WAY THAN GENUINE CONCERN FOR THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THEIR LIVES BEFORE OURS. I THINK MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE THE FIRST TO REMIND

US THAT'S WHY THEY ARE THERE. >> RODNEY ELLIS: THERE IS A LOT OF EMOTION INVOLVED.

I HEARD THE MAGISTRATE HAD DEATH THREATS AS WELL. I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.

THANK YOU FOR COMING. >> LINA HIDALGO: YES, THANK YOU.

>> YOUR HONOR, I THINK THAT MR. MCCANN POINTED OUT THE PROBLEM.

THAT IS THAT ONLY A DISTRICT JUDGE HAS THE DISCRETION IN A CASE LIKE THIS.

BECAUSE THE JUDGE OR THE MAGISTRATE HAD NO DISCRETION HE WAS NOT ABLE TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT OUR OFFICER, OUR SERGEANT WAS KILLED BY A FLEEING INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD THREE PRIOR FELONIES. HE HAD NO PRIOR DISCRETION. THAT MEANS THERE IS A BREAK DOWN IN THE SYSTEM. I AM NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE DISCRETION.

I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT REMOVING A MAGISTRATE. MY MOTION IS MAGISTRATE, PLURAL, BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING PEOPLE IN THE SPOT OF MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO WHETHER THERE IS CRITICAL COMPONENTS GOING ON, WE NEED SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE DISCRETION AND THE ABILITY IN THAT PLACE. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT IT IS NOT PUNITIVE VERSUS A PERSON. YOU POINTED OUT THE EXACT PROBLEM.

THIS MAGISTRATE HAD NO DISCRETION. BECAUSE THIS MAGISTRATE HAD NO DISCRETION, WE HAVE THE EGREGIOUS PROBLEM OF A MURDERED POLICE OFFICER DOING THEIR DUTY. SYSTEM PROBLEM WHICH I BELIEVE WE -- WHEN THE MAGISTRATE TODAY -- STOOD BACK.

I THOUGHT I AGREED WITH YOU AT THE TIME. NOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM NOT OF THE MAGISTRATES DO DOING RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT NOT HAVING THE DISCRETION TO DO THE RIGHT

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THING. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE WHO EVER IS SITTING IN THAT CHAIR MAKING THE DECISIONS HAS THE POWER TO EXERCISE DISCRETION.

>> FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. >> FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. >> NOT A BAD POINT.

>> LINA HIDALGO: YES, COMMISSIONER. >> I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR YOU AS A PERSON. ONE THING WE REALLY DO KNOW IS THERE IS A BHOL -- WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE ALL OVER THESE UNITED STATES THAT COULD CARE LESS WHETHER POLICE OFFICERS ARE KILLED. WE KNOW THAT.

>> I DON'T THINK THEY ARE HERE TODAY, BUT -- >> NOT TOO MANY IN THIS ROOM, BUT PLENTY LIVING AROUND HERE. I AGREE WITH HIM.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT IN CERTAIN CASES, IMPORTANT CASES, SOME JUDGE NEEDS TO GO INTO THE OFFICE AND SET A BOND OR NO BOND THAT MAKES SENSE. NOT BE LEFT TO A PERSON, A MAGISTRATE. I THINK THERE IS A TIME TO CALL SOMEBODY IN TO MAKE SURE THAT PERSON DIDN'T BOND OUT FOR 150,000. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEBODY

THAT SAYS, UH-OH WE HAVE A PROBLEM. >> ARE YOU SAYING A DUTY

JUDGE? >> IN OTHER WORDS WHY CAN'T THEY CALL HIM IN? AS MANY AS THEY HAD WE CAN FIND ONE TO COME IN. IF ASKED TO COME IN, I THINK

THEY WOULD COME IN. >> HONESTLY THAT HAS THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING THE MOST

SENSIBLE DAMN THING I HEARD TODAY SO YES, SIR. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE. >> I WANT A COPY OF THE LAST QUOTE FROM COMMISSIONER

RADACK. >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER CAGLE, YOUR MOTION SAYS REPLACING OR DISMISSING MAGISTRATES. BUT THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT -- COMMISSIONER RADACK SAYS DISTRICT JUDGES SHOULD BE THERE WHEN THERE IS CERTAIN -- THE REALITY IN THIS CASE IS BECAUSE THIS PERSON HAD PRIOR BONDS WHICH AGAIN BONDS DON'T MAKE PEOPLE SAFE. THEY HAVE BEEN LET OUT.

THE DISTRICT JUDGE WAS ABLE TO UP THE CHARGE RETROACTIVELY, BUT IT WAS A MAGISTRATE JUDGE

MAKING THE DECISION. >> WITH NO DISCRETION. GENE

>> LINA HIDALGO: WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING? >> MY PROPOSE -- PROPOSAL IS WE LET THE BUDGET OFFICE AND COUNTY ATTORNEY GET TOGETHER WITH OUR DISTRICT JUDGES, OUR CRIMINAL DISTRICT JUDGES, TO COME UP WITH A PLAN SO THAT WE HAVE THE PROTECTION FOR THE PUBLIC OF WHEN WE HAVE AN INSTANCE WITH SOMEONE THAT HAS COMMITTED THREE FELONIES AND WHILE FLEEING MURDERS SOMEONE ELSE ON THE STREETS THAT THERE IS ENOUGH DISCRETION IN PLACE BECAUSE THE TWO POINTS IS ONE THE PERSON BE THERE FOR THEIR COURT DATE AND TWO THAT THEY BEHAVE WHILE THEY ARE OUT. THIS PERSON HAS -- THIS PERSON IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS FLEAING AND FAILED TO APPEAR AND ALREADY FAILED TO BE THERE.

CERTAINLY THEY WEREN'T BEHAVING WHILE THEY WERE FLEEING THE POLICE OFFICERS.

I WOULD NOT CONSIDER MURDERING A POLICE OFFICER A BEHAVIOR THAT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE.

WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH DISCRETION MAKING THE DECISIONS INSTEAD OF DUMPING

THESE DECISIONS ON SOMEONE WITHOUT DISCRETION. >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER ELLIS AND THEN COMMISSIONER GARCIA, BUT I WANT TO SAY SORT OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

THIS GUY WAS -- BOND WAS SET FOR THE INITIAL CHARGES AND BECAUSE HE HAD MONEY HE PAID AND WAS FREE. THAT'S THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF BAIL REFORM.

MONEY DOESN'T MAKE PEOPLE SAFE. CONDITIONS DO.

THAT'S A POINT -- LET ME FINISH AND THEN THE COMMISSIONERS ARE GOING TO SPEAK. THAT'S ONE THING. THE OTHER QUESTION IS THOUGH AFTER HE COMMITTED THIS CRIME THE MAGISTRATE DIDN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SET A NO BOND BECAUSE IT WAS A MAGISTRATE JUDGE. THE DISTRICT JUDGE HAD RETROACTIVELY SET A NO BOND THANKFULLY. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS PERTAINING TO THAT. IT IS NOT DO PEOPLE BEHAVE OR NOT BEHAVE BECAUSE THAT'S THE WHOLE PROBLEM ON A MONEY-BASED SYSTEM IS DANGEROUS PEOPLE ARE LET OUT BECAUSE YOU HAVE MONEY. MONEY DOESN'T MAKE YOU SAFE. I WANT TO PUT THAT POINT

ASIDE. >> I AGREE, JUDGE, YOU HAVE TO DEFINE THE ISSUES.

FIRST WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A FELONY CASE AND NOT A MISDEMEANOR CASE.

I THINK THE UNDER CURRENT SOMETIMES IS A TENDENCY TO CON FLAT FELONY -- CONTLATE FELONY

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BAIL. AND WHAT REARE TALKING ABOUT -- WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS CAUSING CHANGES IN STATE LAW. MAYBE WE WILL COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION WERE -- WITH NOT A SPECIFIC CASE, BUT IF WE WANT TO TAKEN -- TAKE AN ISSUE WE WILL GET SOME EXPERTS, AND IF WE WANT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, ONE CHALLENGE WITH PASSING BAIL REFORM ESH YES THEY WANT TO -- REFORM ISSUES IS THEY WANT TO KEEP IT IN PLACE. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION MAY NEED TO BE AMENDED. IT WILL BE A BIT ANTIQUATED AND THE STATE STATUTE OUT ON BAIL OUGHT TO BE CHANGED. A LOT OF THIS IS STUFF THAT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU IS ABOVE, I THINK OUR SKILL SET WITHOUT HAVING THE EXPERTS COME IN TO GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT WE WOULD ADVOCATE FOR AS A CHANGE IN STATE LAW. AND ONCE IT GETS THERE IT DOESN'T START OFF WITH SOMETHING WE ARE ASKING FOR AND THEN WE GET SOMETHING THAT

IS WORSE THAN WE HAD RIGHT NOW. >> I KNOW YOU ARE NOT A CRIMINAL LAWYER, BUT IT IS MY HUNCH AND IS IT CORRECT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO

BE CHANGED? >> I EXPECT IT WOULD BE BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED IN SOME OF THE CASES WE HANDLED, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. I AM NOT A CRIMINAL LAWYER.

>> STILL, WE DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THESE MAGISTRATES.

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THESE SUBSTITUTE MAGISTRATES. WE CAN SAY IF YOU'RE AN

ELECTED JUDGE WE HAVE 25 -- >> 22. >> 22 CRIMINAL DISTRICT JUDGES. YOU COME UP WITH A TO COVER THIS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THESE SUBSTITUTE MAGISTRATES THAT HAVE NO AUTHORITY.

>> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER GARCIA HAD A COMMENT. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: JUDGE, I JUST WANT TO SAY -- EXCUSE ME -- YOU KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT -- THANK YOU. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON BECAUSE WE'VE HAD -- AS I ALWAYS SAID WE HAVE FOLKS IN THE COUNTY JAIL ACCOUNTED FOR AND NOT FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW THE CAPACITY OF INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY BE ARRESTED ON TRESPASSING AND SO THIS IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE FOR US.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE AND NOT POLITICIZING THE DEATH OF ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND IN MEMORY OF THOSE WHO HAVE FALLEN BEFORE THAT WE REALLY COMMIT OURSELVES TO DOING WHAT WE CAN FOR THE BEST POSSIBLE SYSTEM. I STARTED MY CAREER IN 1980.

WE HAD A SUE VEER -- SEVERE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN. IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE SIX OFFICERS DIE WITHIN A THREE-YEAR PERIOD.

HARRIS COUNTY HAS GONE THROUGH A COUPLE OF PERIODS WHERE WE HAVE HAD OFFICERS DIE.

WE HAD A STRICT AND CONSERVATIVE SYSTEM THAT HAS FAILED TO PROTECT A LOT OF YOU. WE NEED TO COMMISSION OURSELVES TO WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE AND FOR FOLKS HERE. INSTEAD OF USING -- THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT IS NOT -- IT IS THE ABILITY TO WORK THROUGH AND IT REQUIRES THE LEGISLATURE IN A MEANINGFUL WAY AND WE MAKE THE PROGRESS THAT WE ARE WORKING TO ACHIEVE.

I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU ARE, BUT JUST BE CAREFUL NOT TO PAW LIT SIZE ANY TRAGEDY.

WE HAVE REAL WORK TO DO. IT HAS BEEN SO RESTRICTIVE. WHEN I BECAME SHERIFF THE DO

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OJ -- THE INSURANCE OFFICE WAS UNDER REVIEW. WE HAVE HAD CHALLENGES EVEN WITH THE MOST RESTRICTIVE AND CONSERVATIVE SYSTEMS AND SO I THINK WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK IN FRONT OF US AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE .

>> I AM NOT GOING TO PRETEND, BUT WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS I BELIEVE THAT ANY DISTRICT COURT JUDGE IN HARRIS COUNTY REGARDLESS IF THEY ARE CIVIL OR CRIMINAL OR FAMILY CAN ASSESS A BOND. YOU KNOW BET T I.ERE A OHEM.

DISTRICT COURT. A FEW YEARS AGO THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH IS SOMETHING THAT GOT OUT OF CONTROL AND PART OF THE PROTECTIVE ORDERS.

IF YOU RECALL A VERY CREDIBLE WOMAN, THE WIFE OF JOHN LYNDSAY WAS IN -- HUE WAS A -- WHO WAS A DISTRICT -- A CIVIL COURT JUDGE. SHE ACTUALLY HAD THE LEGISLATURE. THAT DID A LOT TO HELP. IT PUT SOME REAL TEETH OUT THERE AND THE PROCESS WAS MOVING QUICKER WITH THAT JUDGE.

>> IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF AN ON CALL DISTRICT COURT JUDGE WITH DISGRETION -- DISCRETION TO DENY OR SET THOSE TYPES OF BONDS I AM AN OLD SERVICE GUY SO YOU HAVE THE ... BRICK, YOU HAVE THE DUTY BRICK.

THAT SEEMS LIKE A WAY TO ADDRESS CONCERNS ON CASES LIKE THAT -- THAT COME UP LIKE THIS AND HAVE BEEN MORE COMMON THESE LAST FEW WEEKS. HOPEFULLY THEY ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN WITHOUT GETTING MOST OF THE JUDGES MAD AT ME. IMPOSING THE DUTY OF HAVING A

PHONE AVAILABLE DOESN'T SEEM UNREASONABLE. >> I WANT TO COMMENT TO YOU ON

WHAT IS GOOD. I APPRECIATE YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL.

>> LINA HIDALGO: YES, COMMISSIONER ELLIS. YES, I CALLED THEM UP AND I

PROPOSED -- SOME -- GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. >> COMMISSIONER'S COURT HAS NO AUTHORITY TO HIRE OR FIRE AN OFFICER. THE STATE OF TEXAS --

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> TO CONSENT AND APPROVE OF THE DEPARTMENT AND DETERMINE DECISIONS MADE BY THE 9-MEMBER BOARD.

THINK WHEN THIS CAME UP DURING SOME DISCUSSIONS ON BAIL REFORM I DON'T THINK IT COMES AS A SEPARATE ITEM. IT WAS A BACK UP. I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT COMES UP THERE WAS DIVERSITY. I AM NOT SURE, COMMISSIONER CAGLE, BUT I THINK WE WENT TO THIS MAGISTRATE THING AS PART OF A SETTLEMENT. I AM NOT SURE WHEN IT CAME ABOUT. FOR SOME REASON IN MY MIND, AND THE LELGT -- THE LEGISLATURE OWE PINED ON HOW THEY GOT THERE. WHEN THEY STARTED THE

MAGISTRATE THING IT WAS PART OF IT. >> THE MAGISTRATE DOESN'T HAVE

AUTHORITY. >> WHATEVER THEY DID, WE WILL FIND OUT.

>> MY MOTION IS THAT WE REPLACE THE MAGISTRATES WITH THE JUDGES OR AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A JUDGE WITH AUTHORITY ON CALL THAT IS AVAILABLE TO TAKE ACTION.

OUR CITIZENS DESERVE TO BE PROTECTED. >> LINA HIDALGO: I DON'T KNOW

IF WE CAN DO -- >> TO COME BACK AND TELL US --

>> LINA HIDALGO: IF IT IS EVEN LEGAL. AND TALK TO JIM ABOUT THIS.

IT IS COMMISSIONER GARCIA'S POINT THAT IT IS AN INTERESTING CONCEPT.

NONE OF US HAVE STUDIED THIS IN ANY DEPTH. IT COULD BE A TERRIBLE IDEA WITH UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. MAYBE NOT. I DON'T KNOW.

>> I SUGGEST WE DO THE RESEARCH. >> LINA HIDALGO: I MAKE HIM

LAUGH. >> I THINK WE AT LEAST FIND OUT I WILL MAKE A SUBSTITUTE.

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>> I AM OKAY WITH SENDING IT TO SWORD'S BUDGET OFFICE AND WHOEVER IT IS --

>> LINA HIDALGO: JUNE. >> JUSTICE ADMINISTRATION. >> THE JUSTICE ADMINISTRATION, BUT ALSO THE PERSON THAT ASSISTS THE DISTRICT JUDGES, ALL OF THEM.

WE NEED TO HAVE -- IF WE DON'T TAKE ACTION AND LET MURDERERS AND PEOPLE LIKE SERGEANT SULLIVAN TO ROAM THE STREETS ON A $150,000 BOND THAT BLOOD IS ON US.

>> HOLD ON A SECOND. THAT PERSON WAS NOT ALLOWED -- NOTHING WAS ALLOWED.

>> IF WE IN THE FUTURE ALLOW. >> BUT YOU ARE USING SERGEANT SULLIVAN'S NAME AS IF THAT

HAPPENED. I THINK THAT'S WRONG. >> LISTEN SO MY LANGUAGE,

SIR. >> YOU NEED TO DROP THE CONVERSATION ABOUT SERGEANT SULLIVAN AND TALK ABOUT WHATEVER THE PARTICULAR ITEM IS.

>> AN INTERESTING COMMENT FROM YOU. IF SOMETHING OCCURS IN THE FUTURE AND WE HAVE NOT TAKEN ACTION, THAT IS ON US. WE NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT

WILL HAVE THE DISCRETION TO MAKE THE DECISION. >> LINA HIDALGO: WE WILL REFER THIS TO YOU ALL AND THE JUSTICE ADMINISTRATION AND THE DISTRICT COURT JUDGES AND BUDGET. THANK YOU. THAT WAS ACTUALLY A SUPPLEMENTAL ITEM. LET'S GO BACK TO THE AGENDA. COMMISSIONER ELLIS WANTED TO

TALK TO DAF -- DAPHNE LAMEL. >> LINA HIDALGO: NO MORE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM AND WE

WILL SEE IF DAPHNE LAMEL IS HERE. >> ON THE LAST ONE WE SHOULD HEAR SOMETHING BACK IN THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR, OF JANUARY.

>> I'M SORRY. THE END OF JANUARY. >> END OF JANUARY IS GOOD.

>> MS. LAMEL ON THE CONTRACT I WANTED TO USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET AN UPDATE FROM MR. SWORD. I WANT TO GO FORWARD AND WHAT DO WE DO? I WANT TO GET SOME SENSE OF ANY PROBLEMS THAT WE WILL HAVE OR WHAT IS THE PLAN GOING FORWARD? I KNOW YOU VISITED WITH ME YESTERDAY.

ARE YOU COMFORTABLE AND AS I RECALL THE ISSUE CAME UP AND YOU WERE LOOKING AT WHETHER TO GO TO A -- TO GO TO ANOTHER VENDER OR DO IT IN HOUSE. THE SUGGESTION I HAD WAS I DO ALL THREE UNTIL YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WHAT. I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE THREE MONTHS FROM NOW I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD HAVE RAISED THE ISSUE OR YOU SHOULD HAVE GIVEN US AN UP A DATE ON WHERE WE ARE AND I DID NOT DO IT.

>> DAPHNE LAMEL AND FIRST I WANT TO SAY I DO WANT TO THANK ICF FOR THEIR EFFORTS.

THEY WERE CREW -- CRUCIAL TO US GETTING THE PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING.

WE BROUGHT ON TETRA TECH AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM CLOSELY TO REASSESS THE PROGRAM AND WE ARE GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WITH THEIR TEAM AND THE INTERNAL OPERATIONS WITH THEIR TEAM ON BOARD. AS WE LOOK AT THIS, THE GOAL IS TO RAM WILL -- RAMP UP THE PROGRAM AND WE ARE BREAKING GROUND IN JANUARY ON THE HOMES. AND SO WE HAVE MORE THAN 7500 APPLICATIONS AND OF THOSE 4,990 OF THOSE HAVE BEEN INVITED TO APPLY AND WE ARE WORKING WITH OVER A THOUSAND APPLICANTS TO GET THEM IN THE POOL OF PROCESSING FOR BOTH REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM AND THE HALF PROGRAM. WE ARE CLOSING OUR FIRST TWO BUYOUTS THIS MONTH.

OUR BUYOUT PROGRAM HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT PROGRAM WITH THOSE HOMEOWNER THAT'S HAVE VOLUNTEERED WITH US AND WE HAVE ABOUT 37 APPROVED BY GLO TODAY. AND SO WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MOVE THIS PROGRAM AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS. WE ARE WORKING AT THIS POINT SIX OF SEVEN DAYS A BEAK AND IN -- A WEEK AND IN SOME CASES THEY ARE COMING IN THE FULL WEEKEND. WE ARE WORKING TO GET THIS DONE.

>> AND YOU TOLD ME YESTERDAY HAVING GONE THROUGH SMALLER DASSERS BEFORE YOU -- DISASTERS BEFORE YOU HAVE SOME FAMILIARITY WITH THE REGULATORY PROBLEMS THAT COME UP. I DON'T WANT TO BURDEN YOU, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS ON THE TABLE AND WE ARE NOT SURPRISED. IF YOU WOULD MAYBE ONCE A MONTH OR ONCE EVERY TIME WE MEET YOU DECIDE IF YOU WILL PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA TO GIVE US THE UPDATE SO WE ARE NOT SURPRISED INSTEAD OF ONE OF US.

I DON'T WANT TO ADD TO YOUR WORKLOAD, BUT I THINK IT IS GOOD FOR ALL OF US TO HEAR

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ABOUT IT AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR ABOUT IT. WE ARE GIVING YOU ALL THE

RESOURCES YOU NEED. >> YOU ARE, COMMISSIONER AND COMMISSIONER'S COURT.

AND WE CAN BRING THE REPORTS OUT EVERY COURT DATE AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE. AT THIS POINT WE DO GET WEEKLY REPORTS ON PROGRESS.

WE UNDERSTAND OUR HOMEOWNERS AND OUR RESIDENTS ARE OUT THERE STILL RECOVERING AND THAT'S OUR PRIORITY RIGHT NOW IS TO GET THEM BACK TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. AND I JUST GOT A NOTE THAT BRUCE FROM UNIVERSAL SERVICES IS PRESIDENT TO REPORT BACK ON THE AGREEMENT WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER FOR THE

DISPATCH SYSTEM. SO IF BRUCE CAN -- >> SO TO ANSWER A FEW QUESTION THAT'S CAME UP, WE BORROWED -- WE BOUGHT IT FOR $8 MILLION 372,000.

THAT WAS BACK IN 2016. AND SINCE THEN WE HAVE HAD -- WE MADE FOUR PAYMENTS IN THE AMOUNT OF $1-723,763. THIS WOULD BE OUR FIFTH PAYMENT.

NO IT IS OUR FOURTH PAYMENT. >> SO WE HAVE ONE MORE. >> WE NEED TO PAY THIS ONE AND THEN WE HAVE ONE MORE. IT IS TO THE BANK THAT THE CONTRACT WAS SOLD TO.

INTERESTING IT WAS BACK IN APRIL OF 2016 AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE SUB SELECT COMMITTEE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION FAN -- UNANIMOUSLY AND THAT WAS ALL OF THE AGENCIES. THE SHERIFF HAD TWO REPRESENTATIVE THAT'S WERE VOTING MEMBERS OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE AND EVERY OTHER AGENCY HAD ONE THAT THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR A 9-1-1 AND A DISPATCH. AFTER THE LAST LAW ENFORCEMENT TECHNOLOGY MEETING THE -- WE DO HAVE A BOND FOR THE FULL AMOUNT WE CAN PURCHASE IT FOR. AND WE HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGED SINCE DWIGHT CAME ON AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS ON ANY ENTERPRISE TECHNICAL SOLUTIONS.

WE HAVE A BOND FOR THE FULL AMOUNT. AFTER THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE PURCHASING GROUP STARTED LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN EXECUTE AGAINST THAT BOND. SO WE HAVE THE PROTECTION IN PLACE FOR US.

>> LINA HIDALGO: RIGHT. AND IT IS A FOURTH INSTALLMENT OF SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY

SAID AND DONE. IT IS NOT LIKE A NEW THING? >> NO.

>> SO NO DOWNSIDE TO HOLDING IT? THAT WAS THE QUESTION.

>> THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION -- >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO

GET AT. >> IT IS JANUARY 15TH, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HOLDING IT

WILL GO, BUT THAT'S UP TO Y'ALL. >> AND WE MEET AGAIN?

>> ON THE 7TH. >> THEN WAIT UNTIL JANUARY 7TH.

NO DOWNSIDE. I AGREE. >> LINA HIDALGO: LET'S HOLD

IT. THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. >> SO I WILL BRING IT BACK.

>> LINA HIDALGO: LET'S KEEP GOING MISS LYNN YAWS -- MISCELLANEOUS.

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EMERGENCY AND SUPPLEMENTAL ITEM. NUMBER ONE IS REQUEST FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL GET TO THAT AT PUBLIC HEARING HAD.

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HEARINGS. >> MISCELLANEOUS, MR. JACKSON, WHAT IS THAT?

>> MISS -- MISCELLANEOUS B? >> LINA HIDALGO: WHICH IS THAT?

>> THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT. >> WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ON PAGE 32, 25. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> SPECIFICALLY WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN -- WHEN I SEE IT I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE BEING SENSITIVE TO MINORITY WOMEN ON THE PREMISES AS WELL IN YOUR LEGAL WORK.

YOU KNOW IF THERE ARE MINORITY WOMEN THAT HAVE REACHED OUT IN ANYWAY?

DOING LEGAL WORK ON THIS. >> WE ARE CONTRACTED. >> IS THERE A RUSH ON THIS?

I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD. >> I DON'T KNOW. YOU WILL HAVE TO TELL ME.

>> IS THE DEPARTMENT GOING TO APPROVE THIS TODAY? >> IT IS THE EPIC MEDICAL

SYSTEM AND HARRIS COUNTY JAIL. >> I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE FROM HARRIS HEALTH TO COME AND GIVE A REPORT ON THE EXTENT TO WHICH YOU ALL DO BUSINESS MINORITY WOMEN ON FIRMS.

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>> SINCE 2016 WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY BOND ISSUES SO I WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER, WE ARE INVOLVED IN SELECTING OUTSIDE COUNCIL INCLUDING NORTON ROSE AND WILL CERTAINLY PUT TOGETHER A REPORT FOR YOU. MR. NORBY IS RIGHT.

THESE ARE VERY RARE AND I DON'T KNOW THEY HAPPEN THAT OFTEN.

>> I JUST KNOW THERE WAS A TIME BEFORE I WAS AN INVESTMENT BANKER THAT I WAS A BOND LAWYER. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF FIRMS OUT THERE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUT FOLKS ON THE BOARD. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GIVING THE FIRMS THAT ARE NORMALLY LEFT OUT OF THE SPACE AN OPPORTUNITY TO

PARTICIPATE. SCHWA. >> WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU

WITH A MORE SUMMARIZED PACKAGE. >> MAYBE JUST A BREAK DOWN ON EVERYTHING THEY DO AND TO WHAT EXTENT. I KNOW THE DISPARITY STUDY IS LOOKING AT THAT. WHEN I SEE THEM ON THE AGENDA I WANT TO KNOW THAT'S THE TIME TO RAISE IT. LET THEM KNOW BEFORE ONE COMES BACK.

I WILL LET THIS ONE GO, BUT I AM VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT. IT IS HARD GETTING IN.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO EMERGENCY SUPPLEMENTAL ITEMS.

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THE FIRST ONE I WILL BRING BACK IS PUBLIC HEARINGS AND NUMBER TWO IS PRE SINK 2 AND NUMBER 3 IS THIS ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCEMENT ACTION. AND NUMBER FOUR AND 5 ARE PURCHASING. AND NUMBER 6, THIS IS, AS YOU KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SYSTEMS. WE ALL HEARD THE STATISTICS. ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT FOLKS HAVE HAD FOR A FEW YEARS IS WE KNOW WE ARE NOT GETTING ANY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE STATE SOON ON THIS, BUT THERE IS ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE IF THE FOR PROFIT AND NON-PROFIT HOSPITALS WORK WITH THE FQHC'S AND WITH US AND TO TRACK FOLKS THROUGH THE SYSTEM AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE SENDING THEM WHERE THERE IS A BED AND THEN HAVING A CYCLE AS EVERYBODY THROWS THEM OFF LIKE A HOT POTATO. THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE FOCUSES.

IT IS TO BRING THE STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER AND THEY CAME TO US.

THERE IS SOMETHING THAT THERE IS A WILL FOR AND TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TRACK FOLKS THROUGH THE SYSTEM. IT WILL RENCH -- LEVERAGE THE RESOURCES WE HAVE ON MENTAL HEALTH IN THE COUNTY. THE EPISCOPAL HEALTH FOUNDATION HAS AWARDED US A GRANT TO HIRE A FULL TIME SENIOR FELLOW WHO WILL ORGANIZE A COMMUNITY WIDE TASK FORCE AND THE IDEA IS TO HAVE A COORDINATED SYSTEM OF CARE ON THE MENTAL HEALTH AREA.

WE WILL KEEP YOUR OFFICES UH PRIZED AND I WANTED TO JUST THANK THE EPISCOPAL HEALTH

FOUNDATION FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS. >> JUDGE, ON THAT LAST ITEM WE HAD, THAT IS THE RECORD, THE ETHIC SYSTEM THAT WILL TIE IN THE HARRIS CENTER SO THAT WE

HAVE THE CONTINUITY OF CARE. >> LINA HIDALGO: GREAT. GREAT.

THAT CAN'T GET DONE FAST ENOUGH. THANK YOU.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. AND NUMBER SEVEN IS A PRECINCT 1.

NUMBER 8 IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM. LET'S HOLD THAT FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION ON VETERAN SERVICES. NUMBER NINE WE DISCUSSED. NOW TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

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THE FIRST IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF A CERTAIN NAME CHANGE.

A PORTION OF SHAW ROAD TO BE CHANGED TO NORTHPOINTE REACH DRIVE.

IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR ORGANS THIS EYE -- FOR ORGANS THIS ITEM? SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED -- OR THERE IS A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ROBERT? DO WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR THE

ITEM? >> YOU CAN CLOSE THE HEARING AND THEN THE ITEM.

>> LINA HIDALGO: FOR SOME REASON IT IS BACKWARDS IN MY NOTES.

WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MOVE THE ITEM. >> SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. SO A REQUEST BY THE JUSTICE ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO BEHELD ON DECEMBER 17TH, 2019 DURING THE REGULAR COURSE OF COMMISSIONER'S COURT FOR APPROVAL OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN HARRIS COUNTY AND THE HARRIS CENTER FOR ADOPTION OF A FEE SCHEDULE.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR ORGANS THIS ITEM -- OR AGAINST

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THIS ITEM? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE ITEM? >> SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

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NOW EXECUTIVE SESSION. YES. LET'S MOVE THE AGENDA.

>> SECOND. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR.

RIGHT SO WE ARE TAKING THE SUPPLEMENTAL ITEM NUMBER 8 WILL BE AT EXECUTIVE SESSION.

EVERYTHING ELSE OUTSIDE OF EXECUTIVE SESSION WE ARE MOVING.

ALL IN FAVOR? >> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED SOME MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT, SO ON EXECUTIVE SESSION THE FOLKS NEED TO GO BACK FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE. THIS IS THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA

COUNCIL TRANSPORTATION POLICY COUNCIL COMMITTEE. >> IF NOT I WILL DO IT.

GO.

>> LINA HIDALGO: I BELIEVE THERE IS ONE WHERE IT HAS TO BE THE ELECTED.

>> I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT, JUDGE. >> LINA HIDALGO: THE HGAC, SO THE TRANSPORTATION POLICY COUNCIL IS FINE, BUT THE HGAC ONE HAS TO BE THE ELECTED

OFFICIAL. >> NO, I THINK -- >> LINA HIDALGO: OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR?

>> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED? YEAH.

MOTION CARRIES. 1,ING YES. ALL THREE.

1, YES, ALL THREE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEM TWO. ITEM THREE, DOES ANYBODY NEED TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON

ITEM THREE? >> HOW MANY ON THE BOARD? THAT'S FIVE.

WHAT IF WE GIVE EACH PERSON ONE? I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH

THAT. >> LINA HIDALGO: DO FOLKS HAVE TO GO BACK ON ITEM FOUR? AND ENDER HERE? ENDER REID? THIS IS THE APPOINTMENT OF --

ENDER REID AS THE DIRECTIVE OF LEGISLATIVE RELATIONS. >> JUDGE, I THOUGHT IT WAS

SOMEBODY ELSE. >> ARE YOU WITH HIM? >> I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE TO HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT NAMES.

>> LINA HIDALGO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? >> SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR OF NAMING -- WELL, PAUL AS THE DIRECTOR OF DIRECTOR OF

LEGISLATIVE RELATIONS. >> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIES. >> I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL OF Y'ALL.

I AM TRULY HONORED BY BEING APPOINTED TO THIS POSITION AT THIS CRITICAL TIME FOR HARRIS COUNTY. GOING INTO LEGISLATURE. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND THE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS AND ALL OF THE COUNTY OFFICIALS TO WORK ON PROMOTING EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE GOVERNMENT. I REALLY, REALLY JUST AM THRILLED BY THIS OPPORTUNITY. I WANT TO THANK MY PREDECESOR FOR ALL OF HER WORK AND ALL OF HER GUIDANCE IN HELPING ME WITH THIS AS WELL AS MY STAFF FOR ALL OF THE WORK THEY DO AND THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO DO. I KNOW Y'ALL WANT TO GET THIS THING DONE.

IF YOU WILL BIN DULL KNOWLEDGE -- IF YOU WILL INDULGE ME, MY MOM JUST HAD A BIRTHDAY SO

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOM. >> LINA HIDALGO: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

CONGRATULATIONS AND I KNOW YOU, ENDER, WILL BE WORKING TO BUILD OUT AND FIGURING OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE STRONG IN OUR LEGISLATIVE RELATIONS DEPARTMENT, STRONGER.

SO MUCH CONTINES TO BE ON THE LINE. >> ABSOLUTELY.

WE WILL BE MOVING FAST. >> LINA HIDALGO: I LOOK FORWARD TO ALL OF THAT.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.

NUMBER FIVE IS TOUCHY. IT IS THE CHILDREN'S ASSESSMENT CENTER.

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ELAINE IS HERE AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE CHILDREN'S ASSESSMENT CENTER. COUNTLESS CHILDREN AND YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO REMAIN INVOLVED AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CONTINUES TO SUCK SEATED

>> TO SUCCEED AND WE ARE HAPPY FOR YOU. I KNOW IF THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION TO NOMINATE CARRIE MC MCCRACKEN TO BE THE NEW DIRECTOR OF THE CHILDREN'S ASSESSMENT CENTER, WE HAVE ALL VISITED WITH CARRIE AND FOR MY PART I KNOW -- I BELIEVE THAT THE ORGANIZATION WILL BE IN GOOD HANDS.

>> A MOTION. >> YES. >> SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FEVER? >> I.

>> TO KEEP! >> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. >> CONGRATULATIONSES AND CONGRATULATIONS ELAINE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. CARRIE, ANY -- ANYTHING YOU

WOULD LIKE TO SAY? >> IT HAS BEEN A GREAT HONOR TO WORK WITH THE CHILDREN ASSESSMENT CENTER SO FAR. IT IS THE MOST WONDERFUL PLACE IN THE WORLD.

I -- IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE I ENCOURAGE TO YOU VISIT. THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, SOME OF THEM WERE SO KIND TO COME HERE TO SUPPORT ME AND BECAUSE OF ELAINE.

SHE DEDICATED HER WHOLE LIFE TO MAKING THIS PLACE WONDERFUL.

YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE CHILDREN THAT COME THROUGH OUR DOORS. THEY COME THROUGH OUR DOORS ON THEIR DARKEST DAY, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY ARE HAPPY WHEN THEY WALK IN AND FEEL COMFORTABLE. THEY SAY I WILL FEEL SAFE HERE AND ALL OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF ELAINE. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT. I HAVE REALLY BIG SHOES TO FILL, BUT I AM CERTAINLY GONNA DO MY BEST AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.

>> CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONSES AND THANK YOU.

AND THEN THERE IS A REQUEST BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON LEGAL MATTERS. SO LET'S GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION THEN ON SUPPLEMENTAL ITEM 8 AND EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEMS TWO AND SIX AND THAT IS TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL AND LEGAL MATTERS.

>> LINA HIDALGO: IT IS 2:26 AND WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ON ON SUPPLEMENTAL ITEM 8 COMMISSIONER WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTIONS ON THESE?

>> YES. JUDGE AFTER -- I WANT TO FIRST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE RECEIVED THE LETTER OF RESIGNATION OF VINCENT MORRISON, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR AND BEFORE MOVING ON ACCEPTING HIS LETTER I WANT TO THANK HIM, THANK HIM FOR HIS SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY AND THANK HIM FOR HIS SERVICE TO THE COUNTY AND WHAT HE WAS ABLE TO DO IN HIS TIME THERE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A MODEL VETERANS SERVICES OFFICE IN THE COUNTRY AND SO I MOVE TO ACCEPT HIS RESIGNATION AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE HARRIS COUNTY VETERAN SERVICES OFFICE. COMPANY AND SECONDLY I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT COLONEL BUDDY GRANTHAM TO SERVE AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE VETERAN SERVICES OFFICER AND THE VETERAN COUNTY SERVICE OFFICER UNDER THE SECTION 434.003 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE DECEMBER 17TH THROUGH THIS YEAR, THROUGH JANUARY 17TH, 2020. DURING HIS TENURE AS INTERIM DIRECTOR, CUSTOMER FALL GRANTHAM WILL BE PAID $81.70 PER HOUR AND WILL NOT ACCUMULATE ANY PAID LEAVE.

I THINK THIS WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AS THE -- FIRST BUDDY HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB. I HAVE GOT TO KNOW HIM AND WE CHARGED HIM WITH THE SAME TASK OF PUTTING TOGETHER A VETERAN'S AFFAIRS OFFICE AND HE DID A PHENOMENAL JOB AND BROUGHT IT TO THE NATIONAL PROMINENT -- PROMINENCE BY BUILDING COLLABORATION IN THE COMMUNITY AND WORKING TO ASSESS VETERANS AND ACTIVE MILITARY AND HOMELESSNESS.

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THE VETERAN SERVICES HIRING TAFS -- TASK FORCE HAS BEEN WORKING TO FIND THE BEST QUALIFIED CANDIDATE FOR THE DIRECTOR OF VETERAN SERVICES AND THEY WILL SUBMIT THEIR FINAL RECOMMENDATION ON JANUARY 7TH AND WE WILL SEE IT ON THE COURT AGENDA.

I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY WILL ENSURE ALL OF THE PIECES ARE IN PLACE FOR AN EFFECTIVE TRANSITION TO THE VETERAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THERE IS A SENSE OF URGENCY TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD AND I KNOW THAT COLONEL GRANTHAM CAN GET THOSE THINGS DONE AND WILL ENSURE THAT THERE IS A CONTINUE WEIGHINGS IN THE SERVICES -- CONTINUATION IN THE SERVICES AND THE REMAINING STAFF WILL HAVE THE SUPPORT WE NEED UNTIL WE HAVE SOMEONE PERMANENTLY. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE RESIGNATION OF MR. MORRISON

AND I MOVE TO APPOINT COLONEL BUDDY GRANN -- GRANTHAM. >> I THINK YOU SAID YOU WANTED

GRANTHAM TO SERVE UNTIL JANUARY OF 2020? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

JANUARY 7TH. >> JANUARY 7TH OF 2020. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT'S ONLY

THREE OR FOUR WEEKS. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ON AYE -- ON ITEM 6 UNDER EXECUTIVE ACTION WE ARE TAKING NO ACTION. AND THEN ON ITEM -- ITEM TWO

ALSO NO ACTION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE GO BACK AND UNDER SUPPLEMENTAL ITEM NUMBER SIX THE APPROVAL WAS RESIPEDDED -- RESCINDED.

>> LINA HIDALGO: WHICH ONE? >> ITEM 6 OF THE SUPPLEMENTAL.

>> WHICH PAGE? >> I DON'T KNOW, THE SUPPLEMENTAL.

>> ACTUALLY IT IS PAGE 35 AND HAVE WE RUN THIS BY YOU ALREADY?

>> I DON'T THINK SO. >> WHICH ONE IS THIS? >> IT IS THE EPISCOPAL HEALTH. I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THE TEAM HAS NOT -- CAN WE TAKE

THE SPEAKERS AND THEN -- >> JUDGE ON THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY I DON'T MIND US -- WHY COULDN'T WE ACCEPT IT SUBJECT TO NO PROBLEMS. I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY --

>> LINA HIDALGO: AND THEN NOT ACCEPT IT. >> WE WANT THE MONEY SO THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH IT. I SUGGEST WE APPROVE IT UNLESS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT COMES BACK. I MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE IT AND SUBJECT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OX TO FOR SOME LEGAL REASON -- OBJECTION TO SOME LEGAL

REASON. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR?

>> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE FORGOT TO VOTE ON ITEM -- SUPPLEMENTAL -- EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM 3. SO WE NEED A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM 3.

>> DO YOU WANT TO MOVE IT? DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? >> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

AND IT IS ALREADY APPROVED, BUT THEY SIGNED OFF ON THE EPISCOPAL HEALTH CARE.

>> IT IS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE IN THE MORNING. >> COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I AM WORKING WITH THE STAFF, BUT AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS.

SO REALLY THE -- THAT'S WHY IT SAYS NEGOTIATION BASED ON THE ITEM AND IT SAYS BASED ON THE NEGOTIATION BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS

YET. >> AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO GIVE US

MONEY. >> IN THE ITEM IT SAYS FOLLOWING NEGOTIATIONS BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. IT IS ALREADY IN THE ITEM. I MEAN -- WE ARE SAYING THE

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EXACT SAME THING. >> I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. >> LINA HIDALGO: NO, I JUST WANT TO GIVE MY STAFF CREDIT. THEY RUN THINGS DOWN FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.

I WAS SURPRISED. KEEP TRYING, COMMISSIONER. >> STILL SUBJECT TO THE

APPROVAL OF THE COUNTY. >> LINA HIDALGO: NO, I MEAN IT IS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE MOTION SAID. I SAID KEEP TRYING. MY STAFF IS VERY THOROUGH.

SO LET'S GO TO SPEAKERS. >> SO IT IS NOT COMING BACK? >> THE ITEM SAYS IT HAS TO BE NEGOTIATED. IF WE HAVE CONCERN WE WOULD RAISE CONCERNS.

>> SO MY MOTION WAS ESSENTIALLY BEING REDUNDANT BECAUSE THE ITEM ALREADY SAID IT HAD TO BE NEGOTIATED. WE ALL SAID THE SAME THING. HAPPY, HAPPY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. >> LINA HIDALGO: HE IS WITHDRAWING HIS MOTION.

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WE DO HAVE A FEW SPEAKERS AND JUST A REMINDER THAT WE CAN'T COMMENT BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT

ITEMS ON THE AGENDA, BUT I WILL CALL EVERYONE UP. >> ROBERT YOU ARE SAYING IF

SOMEBODY COMES UP AND SPEAKS TO US WE CAN'T RESPOND? >> YOU CAN RESPOND AS LONG AS IT IS SHORT AND FACTUAL. WE SHOULD NOT BE GETTING INTO GENERAL DISCUSSIONS.

>> SO IT IS THE WAY IT WAS WHEN I WAS HERE BY MYSELF. IT IT HASN'T CHANGED?

>> IT HAS CHANGED AND WHY -- AND I THINK WE ARE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING.

>> I AM JUST GLAD, JUDGE DASH. >> LINA HIDALGO: WE HAVE RAY

HUNT -- >> WOULD YOU LIKE SALTED NUTS?

>> LINA HIDALGO: MARIANNE MARTINEZ. >> THAT IS THE SMARTEST THING

I HEARD TODAY. >> LINA HIDALGO: JACOB CLEMINTAGE, ANNIE VAUGHN, DAVID GARCIA. AND THEN I WILL CALL THE REST AFTERWARDS.

>> MAY I BEGIN? >> LINA HIDALGO: YES. >> FIRST OF ALL, JUDGE, COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I AM SPEAKING ON AN ISSUE PASSED ON 4/24 OF 18. IT WAS AN ITEM THAT APPROVED VENDOR RALEY AND VALICK AN EXPENDITURE NAMING HIM AS A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR IN THE CASE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS VERSUS ALFRED DUANE BROWN WHO IS A SUSPECT WHO THE HOUSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HOUSTON POLICE OFFICER'S UNION BELIEVES KILLED CHARLIE CLARK ON APRIL 3D , 2003 AND CALLS THE DEATH OF JONES WHO WITNESSED THE DEATH OF CHARLIE CLARK AND RAY WAS APPROVED FOR $72,000 ON THAT DAY. I STARTED WATCHING THE EXPENDITURES CLOSELY BECAUSE IN THE DOCUMENTS, YOUR BACK UP DOCUMENTATION FROM THAT DATE IT SAYS THAT IT IS NOT TO EXCEED $72,000. WELL INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH AFTER 39,870 WAS APPROVED TO BE SPENT TO HIM ON 7/31, 18 THE PURCHASE ORDER WAS CANCELED.

I INITIALLY THOUGHT, GREAT. THAT MEANS WE WON'T HAVE TO SPEND AS MUCH AS WE THOUGHT ON THIS PERSON WHO BY THE WAY NEVER PROSECUTED A CASE IN HIS LIFE, INCLUDING A TRAFFIC TICKET, BUT WAS NAMED AS A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR. I CONTACTED THE COUNTY AUDITOR AND FOUND OUT A SLUSH FUND THE D.A.'S OFFICE HAS WHICH IS A HOT CHECK SLUSH FUND STARTED PAYING HIM ON. 11/132018 SHE PAID HIM AN ADDITIONAL $362 AND ON 12/16/18 SHE PAID $72,4750. AND 12/18, SAME DAY PAID HIM $51,645.

ON 1/29, 19 SHE PAID HIM $34,671 FROM THE SLUSH FUND. ON APRIL 9TH, 2019 SHE PAID HIM $48,148 OUT OF THE SLUSH FUND. AND FINALLY ON 7/30 OF 2 SWRSH 19 SHE PAID $50,000 FOR A TOTAL OF $359,532 TO BE THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR ON THIS CASE WHEN HE HAS NEVER PROSECUTED A CASE IN HIS LIFE.

I BELIEVE MOST OF THESE EXPENDITURES WERE USED TO DEFAME FORMER DISTRICT ATTORNEY DAN RIZZO. MR. RALLEY HAS FILED MULTIPLE COMPLAINT AGAINST HIM AND WILL PROBABLY GET HIM DISBARRED ON FALSE INFORMATION HE PROVIDED TO THE BAR.

IT IS SAD THE HARRIS COUNTY IS NOT PAYING FOR MR. RIZ -- RIZZO'S REPRESENTATION, BUT PAID $359,000 OF OUR MONEY TO JOHN RALLEY WHO NEVER PROSECUTED A CASE IN HIS

LIFE. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

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COULD I APPROACH YOU AND HAND YOU -- GIVE UH -- YOU A COPY OF MY -- OKAY.

THIS IS A REPORT -- MY NAME IS MARIANNE MARTINEZ. >> LINA HIDALGO: HOLD ON,

COMMISSIONER CAGLE HAS A COMMENT. >> WOULD YOU LOOK INTO THAT

AND LET ME LATE OTHER WHAT YOU FIND OUT ON MR. HUNT'S ISSUE. >> WILL DO.

>> I'M SORRY, MA'AM. >> I AM MARIANNE MARTINEZ AND I AM THE PRECINCT CHAIR FOR 364 AND I ALSO WORKED THE ELECTIONS AND I DID WORK THESE LAST ELECTIONS IN -- FROM OCTOBER UNTIL THE LAST ONE WHICH WAS A SPECIAL ELECTION. AND I AM HERE BASICALLY TO GIVE UH REPORT ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I EXPERIENCED THAT I THINK NEED SOME UH -- ATTENTION. WELSHING DURING THE EARLY VOTING THERE WAS SEVERAL THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT HAD TO DO WITH CHECKING IN AND PROCESSING VOTERS.

ON THE HANDOUT THAT I GAVE Y'ALL, IT GOES INTO MORE DETAIL.

I PREFER NOT TO GO INTO THE DETAIL HERE BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T WANT TO NAME PEOPLE'S NAMES, BUT I FELT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GET INTO THE SPECIFICS SO CORRECTIONS QUB -- CAN BE MADE. A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH TRAINING PEOPLE MORE PROPERLY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAS BEEN A BIG CHANGE IN THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE A LEARNING CURVE AND PEOPLE WILL BE MAKING MISTAKES.

OUR ELECTIONS ARE SACRED. IT IS OUR DUTY TO MAKE SURE THESE PROBLEMS GET CORRECTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ON ELECTION DAY I WORKED AT THAT LOCATION AS AN ALTERNATE.

THERE WAS SOME EGREGIOUS SITUATION THAT'S OCCURRED. I HAVE GOT THEM HIGHLIGHTED IN BOLD THERE. THE DOYLE MPS -- THE DIAL MACHINES WERE SET UP AND CONNECTED THE NIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION. WHEN I CALLED THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT ON ONE OF THE TRAINERS THERE I KIND OF FELT INSULTED BY THE FACT THAT THIS IS A SERIOUS MATTER TO ME. I AM CALLING AND ASKING FOR SOME UNDERSTANDING AND SOME HELP AND SHE THOUGHT IT WAS A LAUGHING MATTER. I REALLY THINK THAT WAS INAPPROPRIATE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE JUDGE I WAS WORKING WITH ALSO WAS GIVING OUT A LOT OF MISINFORMATION TO THE VOTERS. FOR INSTANCE, TELLING THEM THAT THEY COULD VOTE. MY PRECINCT, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE IN HOUSTON, BUT MANY ARE UNINCORPORATED. WE DO NOT VOTE FOR THE MAYOR. MISS HIDALGO WOULD BE ON THERE. SHE WAS ACTUALLY TELLING THE FOLKS THERE THAT WERE COMING IN THAT IF THEY WANTED TO FILE ONE OF THOSE TEMPORARY -- ONE OF THE PROVISIONAL BALLOTS, THAT THEY COULD VOTE FOR THE MAYOR. I IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED HER,

AND I THINK FROM THAT POINT ON THINGS WERE -- >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO

MUCH. >> I'M SORRY, BUT I DO HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS HERE THAT

YOU ALL MIGHT WANT TO -- >> LINA HIDALGO: WE STOP ALL OF THE SPEAKERS, BUT WE

RECEIVED YOUR DOCUMENT AND WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE WILL TALK TO HER. >> WE WILL MEET WITH THE SPEAKER AND TALK.

>> LINA HIDALGO: WE WILL HAVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY VISIT WITH YOU.

THANK YOU. JACOB CLEMETAGE, TONYA DUE -- DUBOIS.

HOW ABOUT -- IT SOUNDS LIKE JACOB CLEMETAGE. >> HERE YE, HERE YE, I AM JACOB CLEMETAGE AND A MEMBER OF THE SALVATION ARMY. WE ARE PREACHING FOR AND THEY ARE WOMBED -- WONDERFUL PREACHINGS. PEOPLE ARE FRIENDLY AND THEY HELP PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES RAISE MONEY FOR THE SALVATION ARMY.

WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO YOU IS THIS, THE MAGAZINE NIGH -- MAGNIFICAN HOUSES AND THE PEOPLE

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ONLY DO I HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE, BUT I HAVE A DISABILITY.

I WANTED TO SAY THIS, THAT ALL OF THE -- ALL THAT IS HAPPENING AND YOU WORKING WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES IN HARRIS COUNTY IS QUITE GOOD BECAUSE YOU HAVE COMMISSIONERS JACK, RADACK, GARCIA AND ELLIS HELPING YOU AND THEY ARE HELPING PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. PERHAPS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORKS WITH ME, HIS NAME IS BRETT, AND BRETT IS HOMELESS. AND SO LAST NIGHT WHEN IT GOT REAL COLD HE SPENT THE NIGHT AT MY PLACE WHICH IS -- WELL, COMMISSIONER RODNEY ELLIS' DISTRICT.

THAT MADE ME FEEL GOOD, BUT I WANT TO SAY AGAIN THAT THE PEOPLE IN PRECINCT 3 AND 4 ARE A-OKAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN HELPING PEOPLE WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND SO I WILL LEAVE

IT TO THE LADY NOW. >> MERRY CHRISTMAS. >> THANK YOU.

MERRY CHRISTMAS. >> I LIKE YOUR HAT. >> OKAY NOW.

>> LINA HIDALGO: MA'AM COULD YOU MENTION YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND YOUR AFFILIATION.

>> ANNIE PEARL SIMMONS BOND, BEEN MARRIED TWICE. AND I HAVE BEEN PAYING MY LIGHT BILL FOR 35 YEARS. A THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR. EVERY TIME THEY GIVE ME AN AIR CONDITION ARE ON -- OR ANYTHING ELECTRIC THEY -- THEY INSPECT THE OUTLETS AND THE ELECTRIC AND THE BOX AND THE METERS AND ALL OF THAT. SOMEONE FROM CENTER POINT ENERGY CAUGHT ME OUT OF MY HOUSE AND COME OUT AND CUTOFF ALL THE WIRES FROM THE HOUSE AND EVERYTHING AND FEMA HAS SENT THREE INSPECTORS OUT THERE AND SAID THE HOUSE WAS SAFE AND BAKER RIP -- RIPLEY HAD SOMEBODY OUT THERE ALSO. I HAD $ 231 LEFT OVER FOR NEXT YEAR AND HE DID ALL OF THAT AND CUT IT OFF. 17 YEARS AGO HE STRUCK.

I CAUGHT HIM IN MY HOUSE WITH MY MINOR DAUGHTER AND I CALLED UP 9-1-1 AND HE RAN OUT AND HE JUMPED IN HIS CAR AND BEFORE THE POLICE COULD GET THERE HE WAS GONE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT BECAME OF THAT, BUT THEY STOPPED HIM FROM READING METERS.

HE COME BACK OUT AND STRUCK AGAIN AND HE KEEPS STRIKING BECAUSE THE OTHER NIGHT HE WAS OUT THERE IN A CAR WHERE MY NEIGHBOR HAS HORSES AND THEY DON'T WANT NOBODY -- SAW HORSES AND THEY DON'T WANT ANYBODY PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAY.

HE HAD THEM STACKED IN THE BACK OF HIS TRUCK FLASHING LIKE A CRAZY PERSON.

WHAT CAN I DO? WHAT CAN I DO? NOW I DON'T HAVE NO LIGHTS AND MY CHILDREN CAN'T USE THEIR -- MY GRANDCHILDREN CAN'T USE THEIR --

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

AND DIEDRE AND DEBORAH WALKER -- DEBORAH WALKER AND CARLA DAVIS.

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>> MERRY CHRISTMAS AND GOOD AFTERNOON HONORABLE JUDGE AND COMMISSIONERS.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL OF THE STAFF. WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR INTEREST AND HELP WITH A QUICK EMERGING -- WE NEED TO SHORE UP OUR WORKFORCE.

WE ARE LOOKING TO MEET WITH THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE AND GETTING TOGETHER A LETTER OF SUPPORT. AND THIS AFTER EIGHT MONTHS OF DISCUSSION.

AN OIL INDUSTRY AND MEDICAL CENTER CAME OUT OF THE CAN DO ATTITUDE.

IT IS IMPERATIVE OF GETTING BACK IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT AND THAT EMERGING BUSINESSES AND THE COUNTY IS DESPERATELY NEEDED. THEY SAY THE HARRIS COUNTY NEEDS AND THERE WOULD NOT BE TECHNOLOGY. IT IS EASY TO LOAD IT AND IT WOULD BE IN A TWO-YEAR PROGRAM. IT IS DESIGNING VIRTUAL REALITY PROJECTIONS AND A LEVEL USED BY SURGEONS AND OPERATIONS.

3D PRINTING PROGRAMS FOR TISSUE AND IT IS CURRENTLY USED IN CONVENTIONS AND HOTELS AND AIRPORTS ET CETERA THREE-STORY PROJECTIONS AND THE ROW -- ROBOTICS AND ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE PRINCIPALS AND APPLICATIONS FOR WORK ENTERTAINMENT.

IT IS LIGHT DESIGN AND MEDIOGRAPHY AND ACCOUNTING AND TIME MANAGEMENT AND MARKETING AND MEDIA SERVICE AND ETHICS AND MEDITATION AND METHODS TO SUCCEED IN BUSINESS.

THEY SAY THE BEST SUITED ARE COMPUTERS WITH THE LABOR FORCE.

THEY WILL CLAP -- CLAP BRAT -- COLLABORATE WITH OTHER INSTITUTIONS.

THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS TONYA DUBOSE. I AM HERE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THE NEED TO PROVIDE SOME PROTECTIONS FOR OUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL RESOURCES AROUND THE HARRIS COUNTY AREA. IN ALL OF EACH OF YOUR DISTRICTS THERE ARE COMMUNITIES OF HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE THAT EXIST. WITHIN THESE COMMUNITIES THERE ARE PLACES OF IMPORTANCE THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND WHAT THEY DID TO ESTABLISH IN THE COUNTY.

I AM FROM INDEPENDENCE HEIGHTS, BUT I DIDN'T LEARN ABOUT THE HISTORY OF INDEPENDENCE HEIGHTS UNTIL I WAS 40 YEARS OLD. I AM 50 SOMETHING NOW.

AFTER I FOUND OUT THAT IT WAS THE FIRST CITY ESTABLISHED BY AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS I WAS ANGRY BECAUSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY NOBODY KNEW THAT.

WHY NOBODY TOLD US THAT. AND THE HISTORY IS STEADILY DYING.

WE LOST THE GRANDSON'S MAYOR TO APPENDICITIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

IF WE LEAVE THIS SPACE AND THIS INFORMATION IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE HISTORY BOOKS, IF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THESE IMPORTANT PLACES, THE STORY OF HARRIS COUNTY, THE STORY OF TEXAS REMAINS AN UNDER TOLD STORY. AND SO I AM HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF ABOUT 14 NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND DONE PRELIMINARY SURVEYS AND RESOURCE THAT'S WE STILL DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT. AND IN EACH OF YOUR AREAS THERE ARE THOSE RESOURCES THAT ARE THERE. AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IN THE VERY, VERY NEAR FUTURE IS FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION THAT WILL SEEK TO PROMOTE THE PROTECTION OF THESE CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL RESOURCES IN OUR AREA.

REAL QUICKLY JUST TO KNOW ADRIAN GARCIA WAS OUR COUNCILMAN AND WE WORKED TO

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SAVE A CHURCH IN NMS HEIGHTS AND THE CHURCH -- IN INDEPENDENCE HEIGHTS AND THE CHURCH IS STILL NOT SAVED. COMMISSIONER YOU HAVE CARBON DALE AND A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF THESE COMMUNITIES AND HOW THEY WERE ESTABLISHED. AND WE HAVE BEXAR STATION AND THERE IS A CEMETERY THAT IS CALLED BRADSHAW CEMETERY. THAT WAS A SETTLEMENT OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND NOBODY KNOWS THE HISTORY OF THOSE PEOPLE AND HOW THEY TRAVELED THERE.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND COMMISSIONER ELLIS, WE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS AND YOU KNOW THERE IS A WEALTH OF RESOURCES IN YOUR AREA THAT NEED PROTECTING.

AND COMMISSIONER CAGLE, CALGARY CEMETERY AND SPRING HEIGHTS, ALL OF THESE PLACES ARE KEY AND IMPORTANT IN THESE AREAS. SO WITHIN EACH OF YOUR AREAS THERE ARE RESOURCE THAT'S NEED TO BE PROTECTED. THE STORY NEEDS TO BE TOLD AND RIGHT HERE IN HOUSTON WE NEED -- WE CANNOT BE A DIVERSE CITY WITHOUT PROTECTING

THOSE. THANK YOU. >> I ASSUME YOU HAVE BEEN

WORKING WITH THE CITY AS WELL? >> YES.

>> THEY ARE ESTABLISHING A COMMISSION OF THIS NATURE? >> NO.

THE CITY IS NOT ESTABLISHING ANY COMMISSION. >> LINA HIDALGO: ROBERT, LET

ME KNOW IF THIS IS ALLOWABLE. >> I WILL TALK TO YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO

MUCH. >> WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. WE HAD DEPARTMENT MANAGERS AND DR. SLOAN KNOWS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE SHE HELPED, BUT IN THE 1970S WHEN A MONEY -- MONUMENT UP TO SOME FOLKS KILLED IN AN EXPLOSION AND NOT OTHERS ERECTED A CROSS IN HONOR OF THE SLAVES THAT HAD BEEN KILLED IN THE POWDER MILL EXPLOSION.

WE GOT A MONUMENT PUT UP IN THE PARK, BUT IT WAS A DUBOSE WHO WAS A PARK MANAGER FROM PRECINCT 4. I WILL ASK THE GOOD DOCTOR BACK HERE TO CHECK TO SEE IF

YOU MAY BE KIN FOLK BECAUSE WE WOULD BE RELATED. >> WE WOULD BE RELATED.

I THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. >> Y'ALL LOOK ALIKE.

LOOK AT YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: DEBORAH BLALOCK, DEBORAH WALKER, CARLS

DAVIS. >> YOU WILL CHECK ON THAT FOR ME, RIGHT?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON IT IS A PLEASURE TO SPEAK. IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SPEAK BEFORE THIS COMMISSION. AND TO YOU, JUDGE HIDALGO. I COME ON BEHALF OF THE AFRO AMERICAN HISTORIC AND GEOLOGICAL SOCIETY IN HOUSTON.

IT IS THE ONLY SOCIETY IN THE STATE AND WE ARE AN ARM OF THE NATIONAL CHAPTER IN DC.

OUR MISSION IN TEXAS IS TO DOCUMENT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN FOOTPRINT IN TEXAS.

AND WE CAN'T EXECUTE THAT MISSION WHEN THESE HISTORICAL, CULTURAL SITES ARE DESTROYED, DISREGARDED, AND WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I AM A PROUD NATIVE HOUSTONIAN, 6TH GENERATION TEXAN. AND I GREW UP IN THE FIFTH WARD AND I KNEW NONE OF THIS HISTORY. I WAS IN MY 40S.

I AM 60 SOMETHING, WHATEVER. SO IT IS DEFINITELY NEEDED. A COMMISSION OF THIS TYPE IS NEEDED. IF NOT US, THEN WHO? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> MA'AM, WOULD YOU PLEASE SEND ME THE INFORMATION ON THE

SITES. >> I CERTAINLY WILL. THANK YOU.

I WILL. >> YOU KNOW MY NUMBER. >> I HAVE YOUR NUMBER.

>> WE ALL DO. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNTY JUDGE HIDALGO AND FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. I AM CARL DAVIS, CHAIR OF HOUSTON SOCIETY FOR CHANGE AND A GENERAL BOARD MEMBER OF THE AFRICAN METHODIST EPISCOPAL CHURCH.

THE OLDEST BLACK DE NOM -- DENOMINATION FOUNDED IN 1857 IN PHILADELPHIA AND FORMED BY BISHOP RICHARD ALLEN AND A GROUP OF BLACKS WHO WALKED OUT OF SAINT GEORGE EPISCOPAL METHODIST BECAUSE OF DISCRIMINATION AFTER BEING PULLED OFF THEIR KNEES DURING PRAYER. IT WAS THAT MOMENT IN THE HISTORY THAT STARTED THE DENOMINATION THAT WAS INCORPORATED IN 1860 AND IT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR 200 YEARS. AS A LIFE LONG MEMBER WESLEYAN FOUNDER IN 1877 AT THE SITE OF THE PARK HE LATER MOVED TO THE CURRENT SITE 2209 EMANCIPATION AVENUE IN 1906 IN THE HISTORIC THIRD WARD. A COMMUNITY THAT IS RICH IN AMERICAN -- IN AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY. I AM ASKING THAT HARRIS COUNTY -- ASKING FOR THE SUPPORT OF ALL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, IF WE CAN COUNT ON YOUR SUPPORT IN ESTABLISHING A HARRIS COUNTY AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE HERITAGE COMMISSION.

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IT IS NOT ONLY TO IMPORTANT TO AMERICA, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT OUR CHILDREN OF COLOR KNOW AND LEARN AND EXPERIENCE THEIR HERITAGE AND LINEAGE IN ORDER TO CHART THEIR DESTINY. IN FEBRUARY 2019 PRESERVATION TEXAS ANNOUNCED THE 16TH ANNUAL LIST OF THE MOST ENDANGERED HISTORICAL PLACES WITH THE WORK OF SUE SIGH -- SAW SAY TEE FOR CHANGE AND THE DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL FAITH IN ACTION WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN HAVING THIRD WARD FOURTH WARD AND FIFTH WARD NAMED TO THE LIST AS HOUSTON'S EMANCIPATION FREEDOM COLONIES. IN -- HE MANS PAYINGS SLAVES FROM RURAL TEXAS MADE THEIR WAY TO HOUSTON JOINING THE NEARLY 100 AFRICAN-AMERICANS LIVING THERE BY 1860.

THROUGH THE NEXT SEVERAL DECADES AFRICAN-AMERICANS SETTLED IN THE THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH WARD OF THE CITY. ESTABLISHED INDEPENDENT COMMUNITIES THAT PROVIDED A SAFE HAVEN AGAINST DISCRIMINATION AND RAMPANT POST WAR VIOLENCE WITH OPPORTUNITIES FOR LAND OWNERSHIP AND ECONOMIC SECURITY.

THESE THREE WARDS IN HOUSTON HAVE SUFFERED IN RECENT DECADES FROM THE EXTENSIVE DEEM -- DEMOLITION, AND ARCHITECTURAL REDEVELOPMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, A HANDFUL OF HISTORICAL STRUCTURES REMAIN IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER. IT ONCE CONTAINED HUNDREDS OF BUILDINGS. HE MANS -- EMANCIPATION AVENUE WAS RENAMED.

IT IS IMPORTANT WE RECLAIM AND RECAPTURE OUR RICH HISTORY OF THESE EMANCIPATION FREEDOM COLONIES AND OTHER COMMUNITIES AND TELL OUR STORY OF THE STRUGGLE AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS

OF THESE COLONIES. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? >> CARL, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR PASSION AND YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS. I AGREE.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE OUGHT TO BE MUCH BETTER AT. THAT HISTORY MAY DISAPPEAR ON

US. THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL RIGHT.

>> CARL SENT YOU OVER HERE SO I WOULD LIKE A VISIT WITH THE THREE OF YOU BEFORE YOU

LEAVE. >> AND BY THE WAY, COMMISSIONER CAGLE, WE ARE ROW

LATED. WE ARE RELATED. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO

MUCH. SCOTT PORSHKI, KATE FURELLE. >> I AM SCOTT PORSHKI AND I AM AN ATTORNEY AND PRACTICE IN HARRIS COUNTY. I COME TO REPRESENT A GROUP OF EMPLOYEES IN HARRIS COUNTY SYSTEMATICALLY TERMINATED THESE GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, THESE EMPLOYEES OF HARRIS COUNTY. CONSTABLE DIAZ HAS MOVED TO ESSENTIAL LEA REPLACE -- ESSENTIALLY REPLACE THE ENTIRE COMMAND STAFF FROM THE CHIEF DEPUTY ON DOWN TO THE PRIMARY CLERK AND HAS SERIOUSLY OFFENDED PRE SINK 2. PRECINCT 2.

THE REASON I COME TO YOU ALL TODAY IS BECAUSE I BELIEVE WITH THESE KIND OF PRACTICES GOING ON AT PRECINCT 2 THAT SERIOUS CONSIDERATION NEEDS TO BEGIN TO PROVIDE THESE DEPUTIES AND CIVILIANS WITH SOME PROTECTION. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT COULD HAVE PROTECTION UNDER 143. CURRENTLY IN HARRIS COUNTY DEPUTY CONSTABLES HAVE NO PROTECTION UNDER CHAP -- CHAPTER 1.

A BIG CONCERN WITH THIS GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT I REPRESENT IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY FOR THEM TO APPEAL ANY DECISION. THERE IS A PROCESS IN PLACE, A PROCESS BY WHICH THE DEPUTIES CAN APPEAL AN INDEPENDENT HEARING -- HEARING EXAMINER.

I BELIEVE THAT CHAPTER 143, IF YOU GO AND LOOK AT THE PREAMBLE YOU WILL SEE THAT IT STARTS THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT THESE STATUTE OUTS HAVE BEEN CREATED FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF PROTECTING CAPABLE PERSONNEL FROM POLITICAL INFLUENCE. AND HERE AT PRECINCT TWO THERE IS A PRIMARY EXAMPLE OF THE POLITICAL INFLUENCE OF CHAPTER ONE. I QUA -- I ASK FOR COMMISSIONERS TO GIVE CONSIDERATION FOR A SERIOUS DISCUSSION TO PROVIDE THIS

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DEPUTY CONSTABLE WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROTECTION. IT IS ALREADY PROVIDED TO POLICE OFFICERS. IT IS PROVIDED TO HOUSTON FIRE -- FIREFIGHTERS, AND I ALSO BELIEVE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HAS CHAPTER 143 PROTECTION.

HARRIS COUNTY IS SUCH A LARGE COUNTY THAT HARRIS COUNTY CANNOT AFFORD TO PROVIDE THESE DEPUTY CONSTABLES WITH CHAPTER 143 PROTECTION. THANK YOU.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

>> I AM NOT SURE -- ROBERT, I THOUGHT I READ SOMEWHERE WHERE THE -- THAT THE LEGISLATION TO INVOKE CIVIL SERVICE FOR ALL HARRIS COUNTY LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT THAT LEGISLATION IS IN

PLACE. >> I THINK IT IS, BUT I AM RELUCTANT TO SAY FROM THE TABLE. WHAT I CAN DO IS DO A REPORT ON THAT WHOLE ISSUE ABOUT

CIVIL SERVICE PROTECTION IN THE COUNTY. >> AND WOULD IF -- WOULD IT BE

THIS BODY THAT DECIDES THAT? >> I BELIEVE IT IS. BARBARA ARMSTRONG MIGHT KNOW.

SHE IS MORE UP ON CIVIL SERVICE THAN I AM. WE CAN GET A REPORT BACK.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. >> CAN SOMEONE VISIT WITH HIM?

>> HE IS ACTUALLY REPRESENTING SOME FOLKS IN A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE COUNTY, SO IF THAT HAPPENS, WE WOULD WANT SOMEBODY FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PRESENT.

>> LINA HIDALGO: RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

>> AND NOT ONLY ON THOSE CASES, BUT THIS ISSUE. >> LINA HIDALGO: YES.

>> JUST THE CHAPTER 143 ISSUE. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

AND YOU WILL CIRCLE BACK. ALL RIGHT. KATE FURELE AND STEVE

WILLIAMS. >> GOING TO GO TO EVERY ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND SHOW THEM HOW TO EXIT OUT I WILL LEGALITY AND -- AND MAKE ALL THE MONEY THEY WANT TO DO AS LONG AS THEY BACK THESE BLACK ELECTEDY OFFICIALS AND BLACK APPOINTED OFFICIALS WHICH IS A HIDDEN HAND OF OUR DESTRUCTION BECAUSE THEY ENDORSE PEOPLE AND THEN LOOK THE OTHER WAY. MICHAEL VERA SHOWED YOU HOW THE GAME IS PLACE WITH THAT. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE BEFORE THE 184TH COURT. WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE AT THE HANDS OF THE HOUSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT, CRIMINAL STUFF AGAINST ME. IT HAS TAKEN PLACE BY THE UNITED STATES ATTORNEY. MANY TIMES OF THINGS GOING ON AND HOW IT COMES TO WHERE ALL OF THIS STUFF WILL COME BACK TO HURT ME BECAUSE THEY SHOULD HAVE DEALT WITH IT BACK THEN AND YOU CAN STOP SOME OF THE STUFF GOING ON NOW. THE HOUSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT IS VIRTUALLY CORRUPT. THE HOUSTON FIRE DEPARTMENT VIER -- VIRTUALLY CORRUPT.

I AM COME -- COMING HERE. I AM AT THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS PLACE AND HERE COMES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THIS IS GOING ON FOR YEARS AND WE CAN'T GET ANYTHING DONE ABOUT IT. I WILL SHOW YOU -- YOU ARE NOT GONNA GIVE ME THE TIME TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT TOOK PLACE JANUARY 21, 22, I'M SURE YOU HEARD ABOUT IT AND WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE COUNTY JAIL. THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE USING A SWORN FALSE AFFIDAVIT HANDED TO A GRAND JURY TO INDICT ME WHEN I WAS THE VICTIM OF A CRIME.

THERE IS VIDEOTAPE OF THE OTHER INCIDENT WHEN I WAS A VICTIM OF THE CRIME.

IT IS THE SAME PEOPLE -- ON THIS OCCASION WHICH SIN CREDIBLE.

I WAS WAITING FOR THE POLICE AND WHEN THE ROBBERS CAME BACK AND I WILL DEMONSTRATE AND YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTENED AND I WILL SHOW THE ORGANIZATION LATIN COMMUNITIES, CHOLOS, MS13 AND SHOW THEM HOW TO FIND THE EXIT OF I WILL LEGALITY AND HAVE ALL OF THE MONEY THEY WANT TO AND TURN THE ORGANIZATIONS INTO POLITICAL ORGANIZATIONS SO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT IN THE ELECTION AND THAT. I WILL FIND A MOVEMENT SO THEY CAN CALIFORNIA, MEXICO, ARIZONA, TEXAS THE WESTERN HALF OF OKLAHOMA AND COLORADO AND NEVADA AND FLORIDA AND TEXAS. I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE IT HAS DONE ME A LOT OF GOOD.

THE POINT IS I HAVE COMPLAINED AND ASKED CITY COUNCIL AND THINGS CONTINUE TO GET DONE.

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I AM NOT RELIGIOUS, BUT IF I WERE --

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

IS THERE SOMEONE THAT MIGHT VISIT WITH HIM, ROBERT? THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT IS IT FOR SPEAKERS. ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. IT IS 3:09.

>> MERRY CHRISTMAS. >> LINA HIDALGO: IT IS THE LAST COMMISSION.

HAPPY

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