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>> LINA HIDALGO: LET'S CONTINUE. IT IS 12:37 AND COMMISSIONER'S COURT IS BACK IN SESSION. WE DID PROMISE THAT WE WOULD BREAK AT 1:30 AGAIN BRIEFLY SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE FOLKS A HEADS UP ABOUT THAT. THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS ON HERE

[Item IV (Part 1 of 2) ]

ON CSD SO I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THOSE OUT OF ORDER AND WITH RESPECT FOR THE PERSONNEL MATTERS THAT ARE PART OF THE ITEMS PROPOSE WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE WE DISCUSS. SO ALL OF THE ITEMS RELATED TO COMMUNITY SERVICES ARE ITEM 9B ON PAGE 12 UNDER CSB, 21A2 ON PAGE 31 UNDER COUNTY JUDGE AND 21E2 ON PAGE 32 UNDER COMMISSIONER PRECINCT 4 AND UNDER EMERGENCY AND SUPPLEMENTAL ITEMS IT IS SUPPLEMENTAL ITEMS 2, 4, 5 AND 6.

ITEMS FOUR AND SIX ARE BOTH EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS. I PROPOSE WE START WITH AN SCUTE TITI SESSION -- AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THOSE ITEMS IF MEMBERS OF

COURT AGREE. >> OKAY. >> LINA HIDALGO: IT IS 12:38.

WE ARE HEADED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEMS 4 AND 6 TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL.

>> AND JUDGE, JUST ON THE RECORD SO IT IS CLEAR, WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING PERSONNEL RECORDS, I WILL BE BACK AND BIDDING MY ADIEU. I DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS

NONPERSONNEL MATTERS. IT IS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> LINA HIDALGO: IS THIS ALL

YOU NEED? >> YES, YOU ARE GOING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO SUCCESS PERSONNEL MATTERS.

>> LINA HIDALGO: IT IS 2:17. WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[Item I]

SO BACK FROM DISCUSSING THESE TWO ITEMS, RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN LOOKING AT THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT, THE NUMBER ONE FOCUS FOR THAT, AND THEN GENERALLY FOR US IS THIS DISASTER RECOVERY PROGRAM, MAKING SURE THAT IT WORKS, MAKING SURE THAT IT IS AS RESPONSIVE AS IT NEEDS TO BE TO THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COUNTY.

WE SAID WE ARE GOING TO BE TAKING ALL OF THE STEPS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. THAT STARTED WITH THE FIRING OF THE CONTRACTOR THAT WAS NOT DELIVERED. IT IS WORKING DAY AND NIGHT THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS WITH THE HIRING OF ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND NOW WANT TO SHIFT THE DWREKS -- THE DIRECTION OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES PROJECT AND THAT IS DISASTER RECOVERY. THE PROPOSAL AND THE MOTION IS THAT WE APPOINT JOSH SUCKEY AS INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT. DAPHNE WILL BE HIS NUMBER TWO AND WE ELEVATE TETRATECH TO GIVE THEM THE RESOURCES THEY NEED AND THE SUPPORT THEY NEED FROM JOSH TO TAKE THE LEAD -- THE FULL LEAD ON THIS DISASTER RECOVERY PROGRAM, HOUSING, REIMBURSE -- REIMBURSEMENT AND

BUYOUTS. >> I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> SECOND.

>> [INAUDIBLE]. >> THEY ARE ON CONTRACT. >> THAT IS ITEMS FOUR AND SIX UNDER EMERGENCY AND SUPPLEMENTAL. THAT'S PAGE 33.

THEY ARE THE PERSONNEL DISCUSSION ITEMS. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? >> THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SAYS THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO

DO IT? >> LINA HIDALGO: GREAT. ALL IN FAVOR?

>> I. >> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE ITEMS RELATED TO COMMUNITY SERVICES. LET ME JUST CALL THEM UP IN TERMS OF PAGE 31 UNDER MY AGENDA I DON'T NEED TO DISCUSS ANYTHING ELSE.

UNDER PRECINCT FOUR AND PAGE 32 -- >> YOUR HONOR, THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE, WE COULD ORDER HIM TO DO IT, BUT THE AUDITOR'S OFFICE HAS ALREADY PROVIDED AN AUDITOR'S REPORT TO US SO WE CAN DO AN UPDATE AND WE CAN SHOW WE HAVE A CLEAN BILL OF HEALTH AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PARTNERS IN THE STATE. I DON'T THINK THERE IS A NEED

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FOR US TO GO FURTHER BECAUSE OUR AUDITOR IS ON IT. >> IT'S GREEN? WE WILL BE STARTING OUR ENGAGEMENT AND WE WILL BE REPORTING BACK TO COURT.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMITMENT FROM YOU GUYS AND COMMISSIONER TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN AT THE COUNTY.

WE NOAH LOT OF THESE ARE PROGRAMS MIRED IN RED TAPE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE -- >> NOT TO BE LABOR THE POINT BECAUSE I THINK WHEN IT COMES UP TWO WEEKS FROM NOW WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF TREAT TAU -- TETRA TECH AND JOSH STUCKEY. IT IS AN IMPORTANT ROLE FOR MISS LAMELLE TO PLAY.

A DEPARTMENT GOING FROM AN ANNUAL SPENDING AMOUNT IS A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS TO $1 BILLION IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. THERE IS PROGRESS IN MANY AREAS AND THERE ARE ALSO WEAKNESSES. WHEN WE MEET AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS I'M SURE WE CAN HEAR AGAIN FROM NOT ONLY JOSH, BUT TETRA TECH AND ANYBODY ELSE.

I HOPE WHEN THIS IS OVER WE CAN GO BACK AND GET TO WORK. >> LINA HIDALGO: YES,

COMMISSIONER GARCIA. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU, JUDGE.

AND IN ADDITION TO COMMISSIONER ELLIS' COMMENTS I WANT TO THANK MISS LAMELLE FOR THE WORK DONE AND THANK JOSH FOR BEING WILLING TO STEP IN AND GIVE US A HAND.

WE GOT A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR. I THINK THIS DEMONSTRATES THAT WE ARE ALL UNIFIED IN ENSURING THAT OUR CITIZENS GET SERVED AND SERVED WELL AND GET SERVED PROPERLY. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VALUABLE RECOVERY RESOURCES GET TO THOSE WHO NEED IT THE MOST. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP IN MOVING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IT CONTINUES TO MOVE US IN THE

RIGHT DIRECTION. >> RODNEY ELLIS: IN THOSE TWO WEEKS IF PURCHASING CAN LOOK AT THE CONTRACTS AS A REASON TO EXPAND AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PRETTY MUCH IN CHARGE WITH THE KEYS TO ALL OF THE RECOVERY EFFORTS THEY NEED TO BRING IN SOME OTHER FIRMS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT AND MAKE A REPORT IN TWO WEEKS.

IT IS 2:30 NOW, 2:23. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS THERE IS A TETRA TECH ITEM, ITEM 23, PAGE TWO ON THE SUPPLEMENTAL FOR THE DR PROGRAM AND THIS IS FOR

SUPPORT PAYING FOR FLOOD INSURANCE. >> [INAUDIBLE].

>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THE NEXT ONE IS PERSONNEL MATTERS. WE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT ITEM.

ITEM FIVE, COMMISSIONER PRECINCT TWO ON AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE PAGE 33.

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. IN THE PURSUIT OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING WELL WITH OUR STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANTS AND THAT THE PRECINCTS ARE ENGAGED AT THE MOST CRITICAL LEVEL, I AM PROPOSING AN OVER SIGHT COMMITTEE. I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION TO SHARE WHAT IS IN MY CONCEPT. I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE SUPPORT OF MY COLLEAGUES THAT AS WE DISTRIBUTE, MY OFFICE WILL SEND OUT SOMETHING TO SHARE WITH OUR COLLEAGUES. THE IDEA IS TO MAKE SURE THE PRECINCT AND THE ISSUES AND THE CONCERNS OF OUR CONSTITUENTS AND OUR PRECINCTS ARE BEING THOUGHT THROUGH AND FOCUSED ON THE RECOVERY PROCESS.

OUR DIFFERENCES DEFER BECAUSE OF DEMOGRAPHICS, BUT WE ALL HAVE RESPECTIVE CONCERNS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MOVING THESE THINGS ALONG. WE HOPE THIS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CAN HELP, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT INTO A WORK GROUP WITH ALL OF US INVOLVED AND THEN COME BACK WITH A MORE FIRM RECOMMENDATION.

>> I SECOND THAT MOTION. >> THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN

FAVOR. >> I. >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. I JUST LEARNED THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM ACTUALLY SO LET ME CALL FOLKS, HORACE, ALLISON, CAROLYN

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STONE, JEFF TABLE, APOLOGIES IF I MISS PRONOUNCE THAT. >> I HERE TODAY TO SEE THE SUPPORT OF A RESOLUTION. IT IS A 192-UNIT THAT IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTED NEAR WALLACEVILLE ROAD. AS YOU ARE AWARE THERE IS NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE COUNTY. THIS 30% OF THEIR INCOME TO HOUSING AND 80% OF THOSE -- 80% OF THOSE FAMILIES EARN LESS THAN $50,000 A YEAR. HARVEY HAS EXACERBATED THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING GREATLY. THERE IS ALWAYS A DEMAND, BUT IT IS EVEN WORSE NOW. IT WAS IN THE MARKET FOR NEW RENTERS AND LESS THAN 6,000 CAME ON ONLINE. WE ARE FALLING BEHIND AND ADDRESSING THIS HUMONGOUS PROBLEM AS I LIKE TO SAY. IT IS INCREASING IN THE AREA AND IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT FOR FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A DECENT PLACE TO LIVE.

THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING PUT OUT A STUDY THAT SAID ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR FAMILIES IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE IS ABLE TO OBTAIN ASSISTANCE.

THAT'S 25% OF THE PEOPLE IN NEED OF ASSISTANCE BEING ABLE TO GET ASSISTANCE.

LAND -- LANDLORDS. LANDLORDS IN SOME CASES DON'T ACCEPT HOUSING VOUCHERS WHICH EXACERBATES THE PROBLEM EVEN MORE FOR THOSE WHO NEED QUALITY HOUSING.

IT IS FORCING OUR FAMILIES TO LIVE IN AREAS THAT ARE, IF YOU WILL, THEY ARE LESS DESIRABLE AND ARE NOT ALLOWING THEM TO MOVE INTO AREAS MORE DESIRABLE AND WHERE THERE ARE HIGH OPPORTUNITIES AND WHERE THERE IS -- THERE ARE BETTER SCHOOLS AND BETTER JOBS AND BETTER EMPLOYMENT. THERE ARE A LOT OF MYTHS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

STANFORD, FERMAN CENTER HAS DONE STUDIES THAT DISPUTE THE MYTHS.

IE, THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING BRINGS CRIME TO THE AREA. NOT TRUE.

THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING DECREASES PROPERTY VALUE. NOT TRUE.

THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOES NOT ADD VALUE TO THE COMMUNITIES.

EACH AFFORD -- AFFORDING HOUSING CAN ADD 16 MILLION TO THE COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF VALUE. COMMISSIONERS WE SEEK YOUR SUPPORT OF INCREASING THE STOCK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN HARRIS COUNTY. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS BUILDING THESE 192 UNITS. THEY #R* -- THEY ARE ONE TO THREE-BEDROOM UNITS.

IT GOES FROM THE LOWER 21 UP -- >> LINA HIDALGO: YES, ONE SECOND. IN ALL CAN -- CANDOR WE CALLED UP B AND STAFF HEARD D.

I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU SINCE I HEARD FROM YOU AND CALLED YOU UP.

LET ME DISMISS TETRA TECH THOUGH. DO WE NEED ANYTHING ELSE FROM

TETRA TECH YOU GUYS? >> RODNEY ELLIS: WE NEED THEM TO GET BACK TO WORK.

>> LINA HIDALGO: GOOD LUCK, YOU GUYS. Y'ALL GOOD? THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, COMMISSIONER GARCIA. WE WILL HEAR FROM ITEM 9B

SEEING AS WE CALLED THEM UP NOW. >> HORACE, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN HERE AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT NOTES HERE THAT THEY HAVE DONE, SOME INCREDIBLE STUDY ON THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND STOCK IN OUR AREA. WE KNOW THAT JUST IN THE HOUSTON AREA WE HAVE ALMOST A HALF MILLION PEOPLE, 400,000 SPECIFICALLY THAT NEED ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LEGITIMATE, QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THEY ARE WORKING FAMILIES. WE ONLY HAVE 60,000 UNITS AVAILABLE.

IT IS A HUGE BURDEN. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU ARE DOING ON OUR

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BEHALF, BUT YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THIS IS A MAJOR CHALLENGE.

I EXCITED ABOUT BRINGING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE PRECINCT THAT WILL HELP WRORKING FAMILIES -- WORKING FAMILIES TO SUPPORT THEM AND THEIR CHILDREN AND TO HAVE A DIGNIFIED PLACE TO LIVE AND THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING -- I WANT TO BE CAREFUL HOW I SAY THIS. THEY AREN'T PAYING MORE REBT -- RENT THAN THE MARKLE -- MARKET CAN PROVIDE FOR THEM. YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT MORE PRODUCT ON THE GROUND. AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENTS. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENT AND FLOODING AND THOSE ISSUES. HARRIS COUNTY HAS PUT IN PLACE SOME OF THE MOST STRINGENT FLOOD PROTECTION AND REGULATIONS OF WHICH THIS UNIT WILL ADHERE TO.

AND SO, HORACE, THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS AND I

APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. >> NEXT WE HAVE CAROLYN STONE.

>> BECAUSE HOW IT IS STRUCTURED WITH BUDGET HEARINGS IN THE BEGINNING WE

POSTPONE THIS ONE UNTIL NEXT TIME. >> LINA HIDALGO: OH, OKAY.

>> [INAUDIBLE]. OUR OFFICE IS COOPERATING WITH YOUR OFFICE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: WE'LL MAKE A NOTE OF NO ACTION. GOT IT.

THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. >> THIS IS STILL --

>> LINA HIDALGO: YES. WE ARE DISCUSSING ITEMS 9D ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT

IN PRECINCT 1 AND PRECINCT 2. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M CAROLYN STONE.

I FROM CHANNEL VIEW WHERE THE HOLLOWS IS PROPOSED TO BE LOCATED ON THE BOUNDARY OF PRECINCT 2 AND PRE SINK -- PRECINCT 1, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER.

WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT. I HAVE A PETITION IN HAND RIGHT NOW WITH 142 SIGNATURES OPPOSING THIS. WE ARE STILL COLLECTING SIGNATURES. CHANNEL VIEW HAS BEEN EXPERIENCING A HOUSING BOOM.

WE ARE NOT IN NEED OF ANYMORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE HAVE SEVERAL SUCH FACILITIES WITHIN CHANNEL VIEW. WE DON'T NEED A NEW ONE. IMPROVEMENT COULD GO TOWARD THE ONES THAT ALREADY EXIST. IN CONTINUE -- IN CONTRADICTION TO WHAT THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID, THOSE HOUSING ADDITIONS ARE EXPERIENCING HIGH CRIME RATES. AND GANG ACTIVITY. THE HOUSING OF HOA'S IN THE AREA ARE HAVING TO HAVE CONSTABLES AND SHERIFF DEPARTMENTS COMING TO THEIR MEETINGS TO GIVE THEM GANG TALKS AND CRIME TALKS RELATED TO THE ACTIVITIES.

THIS IS ALSO A PROJECT THAT WILL BURDEN OUR SCHOOL. ON DECEMBER 21ST, THE DEVELOPERS HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING IN REGARDS TO THIS, AND THE TEACHERS STOOD UP AND SPOKE. THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS STOOD UP AND SPOKE.

THE ESD STOOD UP AND SPOKE. IT IS ALL IN OPPOSITION TO THIS.

AND OUR MONEY AND FLOOD FUNDS BEING USED FOR THIS PROJECT. THIS AREA FLOODS.

IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE ITS OWN DETENTION POND. IT IS GOING TO DRAIN INTO A FLOOD EASE MEANT THAT IS FOR THE HOUSING THAT JUST CAME IN. IT WILL -- A LOT THAT SIZE FOR THE HOUSING, NOW THEY WILL COVER IT WITH THE RUNOFF FROM THE -- FROM THIS FACILITY.

AND ALSO, THE CONCERNS ABOUT THESE HARD-WORKING INDIVIDUALS.

WE ARE A COMMUNITY OF HARD-WORKING INDIVIDUALS. THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE MEETING. IN REPLY TO OUR OPPOSITION AND PEOPLE STATING HOW HARD THEY WORKED, THE DEVELOPER MADE A REALLY TELLING STATEMENT. THIS IS NOT HOUSING FOR HARD-WORKING INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOU. EVERYTHING IN RELATION TO THIS WILL BE A BURDEN ON THE COMMUNITY. WE ARE ALREADY BURDENED BY A LOT OF ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS. WE ARE ATTEMPTING AT THE MOMENT TO GET THESE CORRECTED. THIS WILL NOT ADD TO THE RESILIENCE OF THE COMMUNITY. IT WIN INCOME BETTER -- INCUMBER IT AND MAKE IT MORE VULNERABLE. OUR STUDENTS WILL HAVE TO BE IN TRAILERS --

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GARCIA? >> YES, PASS IT AROUND.

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>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS. YOU KNOW, IT'S A COMPLICATED PROCESS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE IMMEDIATE AREA WITHIN A MILE AND A HALF OF THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY, WE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT ARE ON A WAITING LIST. THAT'S YOUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS. THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY LIVING THERE.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE DEVELOPER COMES FROM SAYING THAT HARD-WORKING PEOPLE WON'T

BE AT THIS FACILITY. >> I JUST -- >> ADRIAN GARCIA: I HEAR YOU.

I WILL LOOK INTO THAT. I WILL JUST SAY THAT, NUMBER ONE, THE -- AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS FACILITY WILL ADHERE TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE, MORE STRINGENT THAN THE CITY OF HOUSTON HAS. BUT OUR NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA NEED HOUSING. THAT'S WHY WE INSTITUTED IN PART THE TRANSIT RIGHTS PROGRAM BECAUSE CARS FLOODED OUT THERE AND PEOPLE HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING AROUND.

WE PUT THAT IN PLACE. WE GOT A LOT OF CHALLENGES, AND I'LL BE WATCHING THIS VERY CLOSELY, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR CONCERNS WITH THIS.

EVERY TIME WE DO ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, IT DOES RAISE CONCERN BECAUSE THERE IS OFTEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION ATTACHED TO THESE. I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS DONE WELL AND DONE CAREFULLY AND THAT WE CAN LOOK BACK ON IT AND BE PROUD OF IT. I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF FAMILIES THAT ARE IN THE AREA ALREADY THAT ARE ON THE WAITING LIST FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I JUST ASSUME WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET A GOOD PRODUCT IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA AND CONTINUE TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY ALREADY

KNOW. >> COMMISSIONER, I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST, THE DESIRES OF THE CONSTITUENTS AND THE RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT THEY ARE SAYING THEY DO NOT WANT THIS.

I LIVE IN THE AREA, AND I VERY AWARE OF WHAT HOUSING IS THERE AND WHAT IS NOT.

THERE IS A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT COULD USE SOME IMPROVEMENT. WE DON'T NEED A NEW FACILITY. WE NEED SERVICES.

WE NEED HOSPITALS. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT IS THERE, NOT BUILD ANOTHER FACILITY THAT WILL IN YEARS BE INCOME BETTERED -- INCUMBERED UPON THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS WHAT WE SPOKE. YOUR PEOPLE WERE AT THE MEETING ON THE 21ST.

COMMISSIONER ELLIS [INAUDIBLE] I'M SURE THEY RELAYED TO YOU THE VOICES OF THE PEOPLE.

I'M HERE NOW TO ALSO RELAY TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND JUDGE HIDALGO.

>> THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

JEFF TABLE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I JEFF TABLE AND I THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING FOR THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL. I HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THESE TWO HOUSING ITEMS. WE HAVE JUST COMPETED -- COMPLETED A YEAR LONG PROCESS OF DOING WHAT IS A HIGH-LEVEL PHASE ONE HOUSING PLAN FOR THE REGION. THIS COVERS 12 COUNTIES OUTSIDE OF HARRIS. I HERE TO REPORT TO YOU THAT BASED ON OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS AND LOCAL LEADERS THROUGHOUT THE REGION, HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IS TOP ISSUE. IT IS NOT JUST A HOUSTON OR HARRIS COUNTY THING.

IT IS AN ISSUE IN OUR RURAL COMMUNITIES, OUR SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES, AND THE REASON I USE THE TERM HOUSING AFFORDABILITY RATHER THAN AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS I THINK THAT PUTS THE EMPHASIS ON THE RIGHT PLACE. THESE PROJECTS ARE INVESTMENTS IN PEOPLE. THEY ARE INVESTMENTS IN FAMILIES, AND THEY ARE REALLY AN INVESTMENT I THINK IN A STRONG FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY.

AGAIN, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PERCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TENANTS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS, BUT I WILL SAY THAT MANY OF THE PEOPLE I WOULD CONSIDER THOSE WHO HELP CARE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES,ING RETAIL WORKERS, HOSPITALITY WORKERS, ADMINISTRATIVE AND HEALTH CARE SUPPORT, CHILD CARE WORKERS. WHEN I LOOK AT THE MEDIAN INCOME NUMBERS AND WHAT WOULD CALL FIE FOR THIS UNIT, A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS FIT INTO THAT AREA.

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AND LIKE IT OR NOT, THE MARKET IS NOT PROVIDING AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY.

I AM NOT GOING TO GO OVER THE SAME STATISTICS THAT THE EARLIER SPEAKER SAID, BUT, YES, ESPECIALLY FOR RENTERS IN HARRIS COUNTY, THERE IS A SCARCITY.

I WOULD ASK THAT AND VERY SENSITIVE TO THE CONCERNS OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE BEING ASKED TO HOST THESE, BUT THINK OF IT AS AN INVESTMENT IN PEOPLE.

THINK OF IT AS AN INVESTMENT IN EFFICIENT SERVICES. RENT BURDENED HOUSEHOLDS HAVE LESS TO SPEND ON HEALTH CARE, NUTRITIOUS FOOD AND FINALLY INTO THE ECONOMY.

IT IS HARD TO SAVE AND BUILD A LIFE FORWARD WITH 30% TO 50% OF YOUR INCOME BEING CONSUMED BY MONTHLY RENT. I COMMEND YOUR EFFORTS ON THIS. IN 2020 WE PLAN TO WORK WITH YOU ALL IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON AND OTHERS IN HARRIS COUNTY IN COMPLETING THE PHASE TWO OF OUR PROJECT. OUR ORGANIZATION IS HAPPY TO OFFER SUPPORT IN ANYWAY WE CAN. THANK YOU FORGIVING HE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU

TODAY. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND THEN

COMMISSIONER ELLIS. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU FOR COMING AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THERE IS ALWAYS A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THIS. I JUST KNOW THIS ISSUE A LITTLE BIT TOO WELL FROM MY DAYS ON COUNCIL. THERE IS ALWAYS MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS VERSUS WHAT PUBLIC ASSISTED HOUSING IS.

THIS IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS IS FOR WORKING INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED TO QUALIFY AS MUCH IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES.

ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS GET THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF PUSH BACK.

THAT'S WHY ONE OF THE MAJOR FOCUSES OF DEVELOPMENT, THIS YOUNG LADY BEHIND ME HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT TIRELESSLY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN ON THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING FRONT, AND PROVIDE THAT AS A COUNTERBALANCE TO THE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DESERVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN A PLACE OF DIGNITY TO RAISE THEIR FAMILIES.

I DO SHARE THE CONCERNS THAT WE NEED GOOD MANAGEMENT ALONG WITH THESE FACILITIES AS WELL. THAT'S WHY I VERY, VERY AWARE OF THAT AND WILL BE WATCHING AS WELL. THANK YOU, JEFF, FOR BEING HERE.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY, JEFF, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AS WELL.

FOR THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER THAT CAME UP, MY STAFF WAS NOT AT THAT MEETING BECAUSE IT WAS IN COMMISSIONER GARCIA'S PRECINCT. IF HE DOESN'T GET MAD WE WILL GO NEXT TIME. IT IS RIGHT ON THE BORDER. WE ARE NOT GETTING CONTROVERSY OF THE ONE IN PRECINCT 1. YOU ASK WHAT HGAK CAN DO. ITEM E IS IMPORTANT AS WELL.

I DON'T HAVE THE FIGURES IN FRONT OF ME, BUT MOST OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS IN PRECINCT ONE. WHETHER IT IS IN THE CITY LIMITS OR THE UNINCORPORATED AREA. IN PART THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENT IN STATE LAW IN TEXAS AND MAYBE TWO OTHER STATES I THINK HAVE FOLLOWED SUIT WHERE THE STATE REPS ARE ALLOWED TO PUT IN A LETTER AND YOU GET POINTS. SOMEBODY PUTS IN A PETITION AND IT IS CONTROVERSIAL. IT IS EASY TO SAY NO WHEN EVERYBODY KNOWS WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I $THINK WE NEED TO -- I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO GET OFF THE POSITION THAT THE ONLY MONEY WE ARE PUTTING INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSE IS MONEY FROM HEAVEN, FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SO TO SPEAK.

THEY WOULD BE COME PLI MEANT -- COMPLIMENTED THAT I REFERED TO THEM AS THAT.

THE CITY OF HOUSTON ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO DECIDED TO PUT SOME OF ITS MONEY, ABOUT $20 MILLION, INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I KNOW THAT BECAUSE AS A YOUNG COUNCILMEMBER I WAS THE PERSON WHO CAME UP WITH THE IDEA AND ADVOCATED FOR THE THE FIRST CITY IN TEXAS TO DO IT, OTHERS TO FOLLOW. WHEN WE GET READY TO GO TO THE VOTERS AGAIN I WILL ADD TO THAT PACKAGE AND USING SOME OF OUR MONEY, AND THEN WE HAVE MORE LATITUDE TO DO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AS OPPOSED TO MOST OF THE HOUSING NOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT PLAYS A ROLE IN. IT TENDS TO BE PUBLIC HOUSING OR IT TENDS TO BE MULTI

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FAMILY. IT IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. THOSE TWO THINGS, ONE IS HELPING TO GET THE OUT OF STATE LAW. ON THIS NEXT ITEM WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IT OUT OF OUR PROCESS. FOR ONE LEVEL OF TAX CREDITS IT IS IN STATE LAW. IT IS NOT THERE FOR THE LOWER AMOUNT WHICH IS NOT USED AS MUCH. THAT'S A ROLE YOU ALL CAN PLAY.

>> I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS, AND WE WILL TAKE THOSE BACK AND LOOK FORWARD TO

WORKING WITH YOU ALL IN THE COMING YEAR. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT IS DREW CHILDRY, MARIXA -OLKIOR AND HELEN MILLER.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, JUDGE, AND COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FORGIVING US TIME TO SPEAK. I DREW CHILDREY AND WITH LE -- LGE AND THE DEVELOPER FOR THE HOLLOWS. I WAS AT THE MEETING AND I MISS SPOKE.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION TOOK MY WORDS AND TOOK IT IN A WRONG CONTEXT.

I DID NOT MEAN OR BELIEVE THAT THE RESIDENTS LIVE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AREN'T HARD WORKING. I THINK THE OPPOSITE. IF NOT, THEY ARE PROBABLY MORE HARDER WORKING THAN ANY OF US OUT HERE TO DON'T LIVE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THAT BEING SAID L.E.G.DEVELOPMENTS IS A REPUTABLE COMPANY.

WE HAVE 10,000 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED AND MANAGED AS WELL. WE PARTNER UP WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES, AND WE TRY TO COME INTO AN AREA AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND AS AN EXAMPLE, THE HOLLOWS IS GOING TO BE -- IT IS DESIGNED AND STRUCTURED VERY SIMILAR TO A DEVELOPMENT WE JUST GOT DONE IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON WORKING WITH THE CITY CALLED THE POINT OF CRESTMONT.

THE POINT OF CRESTMONT IS THE RESULT OF A COLLABORATION OF MANY PARTIES WORKING TOGETHER TO REMOVE AN EXISTING AND DO -- AND DO LAP -- DILAPIDATED COMPLEX.

WE WORKED WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE LOCAL COMMUNITY THAT INCLUDES CRESTMONT WHICH THERE IS SOMEBODY TO SPEAK WITH THEM ON THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH US.

THE LOCAL CHURCHES AND THE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH AND THE COMMUNITY LEADERS.

WE WORK TOGETHER AS ONE TO BRING IN A GOOD ASSET INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND ALSO NOT JUST A GOOD PRODUCT, A GREAT PRODUCT THAT WE BUILT, BUT LONG-TERM WE MAINTAIN IT AND WE WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE IT A VIBRANT DEVELOPENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO JUST -- THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE POINT OF CRESTMONT AND THEIR EXPERIENCE. WE HOPE TO LOOK FOR AND STRIVE

TO REPEAT THE EXACT SAME THING IN THE AREA WITH THE HOLLOWS. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER GARCIA? >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN HERE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU WILLING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR WORDS WERE ACCURATELY STATED AND DELIVERED. THAT'S IMPORTANT. AS THE YOUNG LADY MENTIONED I WAS GOING TO GIVE UH CALL TO FIND OUT WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT THAT SHE --

>> THAT'S NOT WHAT I -- IT MIGHT HAVE COME OUT WRONG, BUT THAT'S TOTALLY NOT WHAT I

MEANT, AND THEY JUST RAN WITH IT. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU.

ADDITIONALLY, TO THE ISSUE OF FLOODING, THERE'S CONCERNS THAT YOUR FACILITY WILL BRING ON -- IT WILL CREATE A WORSE FLOODING CIRCUMSTANCE. ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT

ADHERING TO THE REGULATIONS? >> YES, WE ARE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: AND ACCORDING TO MY NOTES YOU -- THE MODELLING INDICATES THAT THE RUNOFF WILL GO OFF TO THE EASTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHICH HAS ENOUGH CAPACITY AS INDICATED BY I GUESS ENGINEERING THAT IT HAS ENOUGH CAPACITY TO HANDLE THE MODELED RUNOFF.

>> YES, SIR. YES, SIR, DEFINITELY. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: ALSO, IT

WILL BE GATED. >> YES, SIR. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: IT WILL HAVE

A SECURED FENCE AROUND YOUR FACILITY. >> YES, SIR.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS.

>> YES, SIR. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: WHO IS GOING TO MONITOR THE CAMERAS?

>> I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL COMPANIES WE WORK WITH.

OUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK MORE LOGICALLY ABOUT THAT.

THEY CONTRACT WITH THEM. IT IS NOT US ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE.

IT IS ON THE MANAGEMENT SIDE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: YOU ARE GOING TO PROVIDE AMPLE

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LIGHTING FOR YOUR SIDEWALKS AND PARKING AREAS AND APPARENTLY THE NEIGHBORING

STREETS WILL ALSO BENEFIT FROM THAT ADDITIONAL LIGHTING? >> DEFINITELY, YES, SIR.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: AND LASTLY, MY STAFF INDICATED THAT YOU HAD WORKED WITH SECURITY COMPANIES, AND I SENT BACK WORD THAT YOU SHOULD BE TALKING TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN ADDITION TO YOUR FACILITY THERE AS A POTENTIAL CONTRACT PROGRAM OUT THERE FOR

THE PROPERTY. ARE YOU LOOKING AT THAT? >> WE ARE.

I HAVE SAT DOWN AND HAD MEETINGS FACE-TO-FACE. HE WAS HAPPY WE WERE COMING IN. HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT PRODUCT WE WERE PROVIDING, AND HE WANTED ME TO DO MORE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS IN OTHER AREA THAT'S HE OVERSEES.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: GOOD DEAL. THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

YES, GO AHEAD. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARIXA, AND I THE ON SITE COMMUNITY MANAGER AT THE POINT OF CRESTMONT. IN ADDITION TO ME BEING THE ON SITE COMMUNITY MANAGER, I THE PRODUCT OF LIVING ON AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY.

SINGLE MOM AND RAISING MY SON BY MYSELF AND LATER ON TO FINISH COLLEGE FROM THE

UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON. >> COOL. >> THANK YOU.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, I CAN ONLY SPEAK ON THE MISSION OF OUR OWNERSHIP AND DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE STRIVE TO IMPACT THE CHANNEL COMMUNITY IN VERY -- VARIOUS WAYS.

AND IT LOWERS THE CRIME RATE AND WILL INCREASE THE PROPERTY VALUE.

IF THAT WERE THE CASE WE WOULD NOT HAVE A WAITING LIST THAT IS MINIMUM SIX MONTHS LONG.

I BROUGHT VISUALS ON HOW THEY HAVE POSITIVELY IMPACTED THE AREA.

I OFFER FITNESS CLASSES AND WEEKLY BIBLE STUDIES FOR THE CONCERNS.

WE PROVIDE OUR OWN TUTORIALS BY VOLUNTEER AND SPONSORSHIP FROM RETIRED TEACHERS.

FOR THE STEM PROGRAM AND MATH AND SCIENCE, RESUME WRITING CLASSES, MOCK INTERVIEWS, ETIQUETTE CLASSES FOR CHILDREN, JOB PLACEMENT, SWIM CLASSES AND MORE.

ALL OF THIS IS EVIDENT FROM SOCIAL SITE AND VIEWING OUR FACEBOOK PAGE.

I ALSO HAVE MONTHLY RESIDENT MEETINGS THAT I HAVE DOCUMENTED PROOF HERE FROM EVERY RESIDENT THAT ATTENDS. THERE ARE BASKETBALL PROGRAMS AND MENTOR SHIP AND MORE.

IF I HAD MORE TIME I COULD KEEP GOING. THE GOAL FOR OUR YOUTH IS TO CONTINUE -- CONTINUE -- CONTINUOUSLY PROVIDE PROGRAM THAT'S WILL MOLD THEM INTO OUTSTANDING CITIZENS AND OUTSTANDING RECALL -- RESULTS.

THE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN THE SOURCE FOR THE COMMUNITY. NOT ONLY DO WE PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE HAVE PARTNERED TO ENABLE RESIDENTS TO HAVE MULTIPLE CONTACTS AND RESOURCES. TODAY I BROUGHT ALONG TWO RESIDENTS FROM OUR COMMUNITY WHO ACTUALLY LIVE ON MY COMMUNITY AND THERE IS THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

WE ALL WORK TOGETHER -- >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. YOU ARE THE ON SITE MANAGER?

YOU WILL BE THE ON SITE MANAGE SNEER. >> I AN ON SITE MANAGER FOR A SISTER PROPERTY. I WILL HELP WITH THIS LEASE AS WELL.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO QUALIFY TO LIVE AT THIS FACILITY, THEY WOULD NEED

TO BE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OF AGE. >> YES.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: THEY WOULD NEED TO BE -- NEED TO COMPLETE A POLICE BACKGROUND CHECK?

>> YES. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THEY WILL NEED TO HAVE NO FELONIES

ATTRIBUTED TO THEIR -- TO ANY CRIMINAL HISTORY. >> YES, OUR CRIMINAL

BACKGROUND SCREENING IS PRETTY INTENSE, YES. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: NO

FELONIES. >> NO. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: ANYONE

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LIVING ON THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE NAMED ON THE LEASE. >> CORRECT.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: IF THEY ARE NOT WHAT HAPPENS? >> THEY HAVE TO SEE MY LOVELY FACE. NO. VACATE.

A VACATE NOTICE WILL GO OUT FOR BREECH OF LEASE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THEY HAVE TO

HOLD A JOB. >> YES. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THEY HAVE TO

GO THROUGH A CREDIT CHECK. >> YES. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: WHAT IS THE

CREDIT LEVEL THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET? >> DUE TO RECENT HARVEY THERE IS NO SPECIFIC CREDIT SCORE. I DO EVALUATE THE RENTAL HISTORY AND PAYMENT HISTORY

AND HOW MANY TIMES THEY WERE LATE AND ON TIME. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: TO THAT END YOU WOULD REQUIRE AT LEAST THREE REFERENCES FROM PREVIOUS APARTMENT -- IF THEY LIVED IN

AN APARTMENT -- >> IT VARIES. THEY NEED A GOOD RENTAL

HISTORY, YES. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: AND THEN YOU GO THROUGH A SELECTION

CRITERIA FOR THE TENANTS? >> A TENANT SELECTION PLAN, CORRECT.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> TENANT SELECTION PLAN IS AN OUT -- OUTLINE WHAT WE LOOK FOR. IT CUTS DOWN ON POSSIBLE DISCRIMINATION. IE, IT OUTLINES HOW WE SCREEN THE BACKGROUNDS AND SUCCESSFULLY PASS THE BACKGROUND CREDIT SCREENING, BE ON YOUR JOB CONSECUTIVE FOR THREE TO SIX MONTHS AND THERE IS NO GAP OF 60-DAYS OR MORE. NO GAP IN EMPLOYMENT.

>> ADRIAN GARCIA: I AM NOT SURE WHETHER YOU CAN ANSWER THIS OR DREW, BUT ARE YOUR FACILITIES MEMBERS OF THE HOUSTON APARTMENT ASSOCIATION?

>> WE ARE. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: THAT'S A VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT DESIGNATION. IN CONTRAST MY EXPERIENCE OVER THE YEARS WITH THE HOUSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT OR AS A SHERIFF IS THAT WHERE WE TEND TO HAVE THE GREATEST NUMBER OF PROBLEMS ALMOST CONSISTENTLY ARE NON-HOUSTON APARTMENT ASSOCIATION MEMBER

PROPERTIES. >> IN ADDITION TO THAT WE ARE STRIVING TO BECOME A BLUE STAR

PROPERTY AS WELL. >> ADRIAN GARCIA: EVEN BETTER.

THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. I JUST -- I WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE WE GENERALLY TEND TO FIND WHERE NUISANCE ABATEMENT INITIATIVES HAVE TO GO, WHERE ENFORCEMENT STRATEGIES HAVE TO BE PLACED, WHAT WE FIND, FENCES THAT HAVE HOLES IN THEM AND WE FIND PARKING LOTS THAT DON'T HAVE LIGHTING AND WHERE WE FIND PROPERTIES THAT DON'T HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS AND DON'T HAVE SECURITY PERSONNEL, IT IS GENERALLY A PROPERTY THAT IS NOT -- MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. A GREAT MAJORITY OF THE TIME THEY ARE NOT HOUSTON APARTMENT ASSOCIATION MANAGERS AND NOR DO THEY EVEN PARTICIPATE IN

THE BLUE STAR PROGRAMS. >> IN ADDITION TO THAT, COMMISSIONER GARCIA, THE RHETORICAL QUESTION IS WHAT DEFINES HARD WORKING? IS IT THE SALARY, THE PAY, THE HOURS OR WHAT? WHAT ACTUALLY DEFINES HARD-WORKING CITIZENS? AT MY PROPERTY EVERY TIME I HOLD AN EVENT IT IS NOT -- I HAVE AN OPEN DOOR POLICY.

IT IS NOT CLOSED OFF STRICTLY TO MY RESIDENTS. IT IS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> LINA HIDALGO: NEXT IS HELEN MILLER, JASMINE HENDERSON,

PHILIP WILSON AND SUSAN HENSON. >> MY NAME IS JASMINE HEN -- HENDERSON. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY HELLO TO THE JUDGE AND THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE BOARD. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I RESIDE AT THE POINT CRESTMONT AND MISS MARISSA IS AN UH -- AN AMAZING MANAGER. I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF APARTMENTS THAT ARE INCOME BASED, AND THEY ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IT STARTS WITH THE MANAGERS AND IF THEY DON'T TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR PROPERTY.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COME INTO HER OFFICE HALF DRESSED. SHE PUTS CHARACTER IN THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE PROPERTY. THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN'T TELL HER ABOUT THAT SHE DOESN'T ADDRESS. SINCE I HAVE BEEN RESIDING AT THE POINT OF CRESTMONT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY PLACES YOU CAN REACH OUT AND GET HELP. WHEN YOU GO TO MARISSA OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT WORKS IN THE OFFICE THEY HEAR YOU. IF YOU SAY MY CHILD NEED HELP WITH THIS, MY CHILD NEED HELP WITH THAT, SHE WORKS WITH YOU ON IT.

THE DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN. SHE HAS AN OPEN DOOR POLICY. WE HAVE A CELL PHONE NUMBER

AND WE CAN CALL AND SHE IS THERE. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. THANK YOU. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE. I JUST WANT TO SAY GOOD EVENING TO EVERYONE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION. >> MY NAME IS PHILIP WILSON.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THIS TO EVERYONE. BEFORE YOU CONSIDER RESULTS,

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WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE PROCESS BEFORE WE GET TO THE RESULTS.

LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT I MEAN. THE PROCESS THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED SINCE I HAVE BEEN LIVING AT THE POINT OF CRESTMONT IS THIS. I SEEING PRIDE BEING PUT BACK INTO PEOPLE'S LIVES THAT ONCE HAD NO PRIDE BECAUSE OF LEADERSHIP.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. WHEN YOU ARE UNDER THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP, AND I WILL SAY IT ONE MORE TIME. WHEN YOU ARE UNDER THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP THINGS WILL HAPPEN. RIGHT NOW AT THE POINT OF CRESTMONT, MISS MARISSA IS LEADING IT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I SAY TO THINK ABOUT THE PROCESS. IF YOU DON'T CONSIDER HER AND BE A PART OF THE PROCESS THAT'S GOING ON, WE WILL MISS IT. THANK YOU.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CHARLES CAVE AND PRESIDENT OF CRESTMONT PARK ASSOCIATION. AND I LIVE IN COMMISSIONER ELLIS' PRECINCT 1.

THE POINT OF CRESTMONT EXISTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. PRIOR TO THAT THIS WAS A LOT THAT HAD A BUNCH OF DILAPIDATED APART -- APARTMENTS YOU SAW ON THE POSTER. IT HAD BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. 20, 25 YEARS.

I HAVE SEEN -- I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 42 YEARS AND I SAW WHEN THE HURRICANE WIPED IT OUT. WE WERE EXCITED THAT THEY CAME TO US AND SETTED -- SAID WE WANT TO BRING IN THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. ALL OF THE THINGS COMMISSIONER GARCIA MENTIONED, THE SECURITY -- DO YOU HAVE CAMERAS ? WILL IT BE FENCED? WILL THERE BE PROGRAMMING FOR FAMILY THAT'S NEED ALL THAT. THEY HAVE DONE ALL THAT.

WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. OUR BELIEF IS IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD.

IT CONSISTS OF SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS AND MULTI-UNITS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE ARE EXCITED THAT THEY ARE PART OF OUR VILLAGE, AND REBUILDING THE COMMUNITY BROUGHT ABOUT CHANGES IN THE SENSE THAT WE ARE NOW -- WE'VE HAD DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF THE HIGH SCHOOL THERE AND IN OTHER PLACES. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

WE CAN'T TO COLLABORATE. WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK, AND WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO PROVIDE HOUSING. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE UNITS ARE 100% FILLED AND IT IS OPEN LESS THAN A YEAR AND THERE IS A TREMENDOUS LEADERSHIP.

THERE IS A NEED FOR THIS HOUSING. WE FELT IT WAS INCOME -- INCUMBENT TO STEP UP AND PROVIDE A VEHICLE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. I. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN

AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE THOUGHTS. >> LINA HIDALGO: IS HELEN

MILLER OR SUSAN HANSON HERE? >> NO, I BELIEVE THEY HAD TO LEAVE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU TO THE SPEAKERS. THAT'S IT FOR THE SPEAKERS, COMMISSIONER. DO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ITEM.

>> SO MOVED. >> YOUR HONOR IF I COULD HAVE A BRIEF MOMENT OF DISCUSSION.

IT HAS BEEN THE LONG TRADITION FOR EACH COMMISSIONER TO LOOK IN THEIR PRECINCT AND DO WHAT THEY FEEL IS BEST IN THEIR PRECINCT. THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF SHOTS ACROSS THE BOW ABOUT HOW THAT TRADITION WILL BE VIOLATED WITH REGARD TO THESE THINGS. COMMISSIONER GARCIA, I THINK THAT YOU ARE THE BEST PERSON TO MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER THIS SHOULD BE DONE OR NOT. I JUST WANT TO KNOW ARE YOU GONNA ALLOW ME THAT SAME PRIVILEGE WHEN THE TIME COMES?

>> COMMISSIONER CAGLE, I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE DONE ANYTHING. >> I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE

EITHER. >> TO IMPEDE YOUR DECISION ON BEHALF OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

I AM NOT SURE WHERE THE QUESTION IS COMING FROM, BUT IF THERE HAS BEEN SHOTS ACROSS

THE BOW, IT HASN'T BEEN TODAY. >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE TRADITION IN HARRIS COUNTY HAS BEEN WITH THESE FIEFDOMS. EACH COMMISSION HAD A VETO WHETHER OR NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN GO IN THEIR PRECINCT. I BROUGHT THIS UP A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND I SAID THAT OUGHT TO CHANGE. THE POLICY OUGHT TO BE IF THERE ARE THREE VOTES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A PROJECT, IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD. THERE IS A REASON WHY THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS ARE IN PRECINCT 1, NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, PRECINCT TWO. AND THE REASON THAT PROVISION IS IN STATE LAW IS BECAUSE STATE REPS USED IT TO TRY AND CONCENTRATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IN CERTAIN AREAS.

THAT'S JUST NOT RIGHT. I'M MORE BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS.

LET ME TELL YOU, EVEN IF -- I ADMIRE YOU AND IT IS COMING FROM CRITICISM FROM FOLKS IN YOUR PRECINCT AND NOT FROM MINE. EVEN IF IT DID COME FROM MINE, WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE WAY IT WORKS, YOUR PRECINCT, COMMISSIONER RADACK, THEY DISCOURAGE IT AND THEY DON'T EVEN APPLY.

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THAT'S WHY I SAID THE POLICY SHOULD CHANGE. THAT'S WHY UNDER THE SECOND ITEM I TAKING OUT THAT DEAL. YOU COULD COME IN AND MAKE YOUR CASE, AND I MAY AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT OUGHT TO BE THE CASE. I DIDN'T MEAN A SHOT ACROSS THE BOW AT YOU. I WON'T BE DUCKING. I WILL SAY IT AND MAKE SURE IT IS CLEAR. THE SHOT ACROSS THE BOW IS REGARD TO THE LANGUAGE IN STATE LAW WHICH IS RIDICULOUS. I THINK SOME OF THE HOUSING ADVOCATES SHOULD SUE THEM FOR BEING THERE. THE CITY OF HOUSTON HAS HAD A REAL CHALLENGE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I DON'T BLAME THE ADVOCATES FOREGOING TO COURT. THE PEOPLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING SAYING IT IS CRAZY IF YOU CONCENTRATE THEM IN CERTAIN AREAS AND YOU CAN'T GO TO MORE AFFLUENT AREAS TO PUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK FOR ONE MINUTE I WAS SHOOTING A SHOT AT YOU. I'M BEING HONEST. I THINK THAT POLICY WAS WRONG, AND IT WAS DISCRIMINATORY, AND IF THIS COURT DID TAKE THAT POSITION, I WOULD ADVOCATE

SOMEBODY SUE THIS COUNTY OVER IT. >> YOUR HONOR.

>> LINA HIDALGO: YES. >> FIRST OF ALL MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS ARE BASED ON A FALSE PREMISE. I THINK PRECINCT 4 HAS A RECORD OF A NUMBER OF PLACES FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING UNITS BROUGHT INTO THE COUNTY. AND IN FACT I THINK WE CAN BRING A FEW THAT ARE IN THAT WE HAVE RELATIVELY RECENTLY BROUGHT.

THE ISSUE IS THAT WE DO RELY ON THE INPUT OF OUR STATE REPS AS TO WHERE THEY DESIRE FOR THEM TO BE. I THINK IT IS INCOME BRENT -- IN -- INCUMBENT ON EACH MEMBER OF THIS COURT WHEN THERE IS A HOUSING ISSUE TO RESEARCH THE ISSUES, AND TO VISIT WITH OUR STATE COLLEAGUES AND THE MOVEMENT IN THAT DIRECTION. MY QUESTION IS IF THE DESIRE IS THAT MY VOTE ISN'T NECESSARY ANYMORE AND YOU DON'T WANT ME TO REPRESENT MY PEOPLE ANYMORE IN PRECINCT 4, IF THAT'S THE ATTITUDE OF PRECINCT 2, I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT ATTITUDE FROM PRECINCT 2 SO FAR. I TRUST HIM TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION. I'M JUST ASKING HIM, IS HE GOING TO BE TRUSTING ME.

>> IF YOU ARE ASKING ME AGAIN, I WILL TELL YOU THAT -- >> WELL, HE ANSWERED FOR YOU.

>> WELL, IF YOU ARE ASKING ME AGAIN, I WILL JUST SAY, LOOK, ON THESE ISSUES IT IS TOUGH.

WE HAVE A CITIZEN HAS COME UP WITH A PETITION, BUT THERE IS ALSO SUPPORTING DATA TO SHOW THE NEED. I'M GOING TO TRUST AND I HOPE YOU AS A COLLEAGUE -- NEVER MIND AS A COLLEAGUE. YOU ARE YOUR OWN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

YOU WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR AND DECIDE WHATEVER DECISIONS ARE YOU MAKING ARE LEGITIMATE, AND IN THE RIGHT INTEREST OF WHATEVER THE DATA SUPPORTS.

SO I'M SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THE DATA IN MY PRECINCT SUPPORTS THE NEED FOR THIS PROJECT. I I HAVE JUST HEARD INFORMATION TO SUPPORT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A QUALITY PROJECT. THE STATUS OF THE HOUSTON ASSOCIATION APARTMENT MEMBERSHIP IS VERY TELLING PIECE OF CRITERIA TO THIS EQUATION. I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU GO ABOUT YOUR DECISION PROCESS.

I AM NOT GOING TO STAND IN THE WAY OF WHAT YOU WILL DECIDE OR VOTE ON.

YOU'LL HAVE TO HOLD THAT AS A MAN AND AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. AS COMMISSIONER RADACK WAS SAYING YOU HAVE TO MAN UP ON THAT ONE, AND THAT'S ON YOU. I THINK THIS IS A NEED.

I SUPPORTING IT. I AM NOT GONNA STAND IN YOUR WAY.

YOU WILL HAVE YOUR OWN DEMONS TO FACE ON WHATEVER DECISION YOU MAKE.

>> AND I TRUST YOU WHEN YOU DO THE RIGHT THING. WHEN YOU DON'T, I DON'T.

IS THAT CLEAR? >> LINA HIDALGO: YES, COMMISSIONER.

I THINK WE OUGHT TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS. GO AHEAD.

>> LET ME JUST SAY ONE THING. I WILL ENGAGE IN THE CONVERSATION SIMPLY BECAUSE COMMISSIONER ELLIS JUST TOOK SOMETHING OUT OF YOUR REAR SAYING I HAVE BEEN OUT THROUGH TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM BUILDING LOW INCOME HOUSING IN PRECINCT 3.

YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF THAT WHATSOEVER JUST LIKE SAYING I NEED TO MAN UP WHEN IT COMES TO TAX INCREASES WHEN I NEVER VOTED AGAINST ONE. ONCE AGAIN TODAY YOU ARE WRONG

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AGAIN. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO YOU THAT YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND PRETEND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW. THE FACT IS WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT PRE SINK 3 IS NOT TRUE. PRECINCT 3 IS NOT TRUE. I CAN BRING DAFFY -- DAPHNE UP HERE AND ASK, HAVE I EVER, HAVE I EVER, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ME DISCRIMINATE AGAINST

LOW INCOME HOUSING? >> NO. >> I GUESS WE CAN SWEAR HIM IN AND HE WOULD SAY THE SAME THING. I JUST WANT TO SAY TO YOU, IF YOU WANT TO JUST SAY THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE, THAT'S FINE.

>> FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH, DEVELOPERS HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY DON'T ASK FOR THE CREDITS IN CERTAIN PRECINCTS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY WON'T GET THE SUPPORT TO HAVE THEM.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THEY TOLD ME. >> TELL US THE NAME OF THE DEVELOPERS AND GET THEM OVER HERE. PLEASE DO.

PLEASE. LEAN

>> LINA HIDALGO: FUNDAMENTALLY WE HAVE AN AFFORD -- AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS COUNTY WIDE. WE TALK ABOUT FLOOD RESILIENCE AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ANGLES. WE NEED TO PROTECT -- AREAS NEED TO BUY OUT HOMES THAT WE KNOW WILL CONTINUE FLOODING NO MATTER WHAT PROJECT WE DO, AND SO THEY NEED SOMEWHERE TO LIVE. AS WE WORK ON POLICY ISSUES FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING SEEMS TO BE AT THE HEART. I KNOW, COMMISSIONER GARCIA, IT IS DIFFICULT -- IT IS A DIFFICULT TOPIC FOR EVERYONE, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PULL TOGETHER THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND WORK FOR THESE TO BE ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND FOR THEM TO BE WELL DONE. BUT I WILL SUPPORT YOUR MOTION

, COMMISSIONER WHEN IT COMES TIME TO VOTE. >> I DO WANT TO JUST GIVE THIS

-- >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER ELLIS AND THEN COMMISSIONER

RADACK. >> IN 201942.6% OF THE GUARANTEED AFFORDABLE UNITS COUNTY WIDE WAS LOCATED IN PRE SIN -- PRECINCT 1. 27% WERE PRE SINK 2.

ONLY 31% IN PRECINCTS 3 AND 4 AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WERE FOR SENIORS ONLY.

I JUST GIVING YOU THE STATS. I TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHEN WE THINK ABOUT HAVING A HOUSING CRISIS WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING ONE HAS TO ASK THE QUESTION WHY. I TELLING YOU FROM 26 YEARS OF BEING IN AUSTIN AND THE THREE YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE, THE FOLKS QUHO GET THESE SAY THE STATE REP LAB -- IT WAS THE STATE SENATE BEFORE. I WENT THROUGH IF AND -- THROUGH IT AND GOT THE STATE SENATE LETTER OUT. PEOPLE WERE IN COURT OVER THIS ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS A HOT BUTTON. OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE INPUT, BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS ARE OFF LIMITS. AND I'M TAKING THEM IN MY PRECINCT. I AM NOT OBJECTING TO ANY OF THEM, BUT THE FEDERAL ANTI-DISCRIMINATION LAWS SAY YOU CAN'T JUST CONCENTRATE THEM IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

THAT'S WHY IN THE NEXT ITEM I SAYING TAKE OUT THE PROVISION THAT IS NOT REQUIRED UNDER STATE LAW THAT YOU NEED A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO GET POINTS FROM THE STATE RECORDS AS WELL TO GET THE TAX CREDIT ON, I BELIEVE THE 4% TAX CREDIT.

I'M TELLING YOU IT IS ONE REASON PEOPLE WILL NOT GO IN. AND OUR POLICY TO PUT IT IN -- AND I WILL HAVE A COUPLE. THEY MAY MEED -- HEY MAY NEED FUNDING FOR WHAT IS NOT

AFFORDABLE HOUSING. >> FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEM COME HERE PUBLICLY AND TALK ABOUT IT. WE WOULD LOVE TO. IF YOU CAN FIND A DEVELOPER, I HOPE YOU BRING HIM. OKAY? YOU SAID THIS WAS A DIFFICULT ISSUE? THIS IS NOT A DIFFICULT ISSUE.

IT IS NOT A DIFFICULT ISSUE. I GOING TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE REASON NOT TO SUPPORT IT. IF I HAD A REASON NOT TO SUPPORT IT, THEN I WOULDN'T SUPPORT. IT I WILL SUPPORT AND I WILL VOTE FOR IT.

ALL I'M SIMPLY SAYING IS THIS, THAT YOU GOT ME INVOLVED IN THIS CONVERSATION BAY JUST SAYING SOMETHING THAT WAS BLATANTLY UNTRUE, AND THAT'S WHY I DECIDED TO COMMENT ON.

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IT. >> THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER

CAGLE. >> R. JACK CAGLE: WOULD YOU LIKE MY VOTE FOR THIS?

>> YEAH. >> ALL RIGHT. APPROVED.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR? >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED? FOR 9D MOTION CARRIES. DO WE NEED TO TAKE UP E SINCE

WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS. >> CAN I MAKE A MOTION ON THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY SERVICES?

I HOPE THIS MAKES SENSE SO DAFFY CAN GET TO WORK. >> SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR. >> I.

>> THIS IS THE MOTION? FOR CLARIFICATION THIS IS THE MOTION TO TAKE STATE REPS OUT

OF THE 4%? >> IT IS FOR THAT AND FOR THE HEALTHY FOOD INITIATIVE AS

WELL. >> I IN -- >> YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF ALL OF

THEM BUT E. I TRYING TO BE HELPFUL. >> THANK YOU.

>> 12, 9 -- >> FOR THE SAKE OF EFFICIENCY --

>> LINA HIDALGO: WE SPENT THE MORNING DISCUSSING COMMUNITY SERVICES SO YOU ARE SAYING

JUST GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE PIECE OF THE ADJOURNMENT. >> IF YOU TRUST ME ALL BUT E.

YOU ARE AGAINST PAGE 12 AND FOR ON ITEM F AND FOR OTHER ITEMS.

>> CORRECT. >> SEE, I TRY TO BE HELPFUL. >> SOMETIMES I TELL PEOPLE YOU ARE AGAINST THIS AND FOR THAT. AND THEY DO IT FOR ME.

SHOW -- SHALL WE VOTE, JUDGE? >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER RADACK, ARE WE GOT TO VOTE?

LET'S VOTE ON E. >> I MAKE A MOTION FOR E. >> SECOND.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR. >> I.

>> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED. >> OPPOSED. FOR NAMES.

>> LINA HIDALGO: E IS THE STATE REP LETTER FOR THE LOW INCOME TAX CREDITS AND

COMMISSIONER ELLIS PROPOSED TAKING IT OUT. >> IF YOU TAKE THE 4% RULE OFF

THE -- YOU TAKE STATE REPS OUT OF THE 4% CREDIT. >> WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO

THAT? >> I BELIEVE WE DO. [INAUDIBLE].

THESE ARE DIFFERENT -- >> STATE LAW REQUIRES THE STATE REPS HAVE TO DO A LETTER FOR THE 9% CREDIT. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT FOR THE 4%.

>> IF I COULD, DAPHNE LEMELLE. THE 2020QAP NOW ALLOWS STATE REPS NOT TO SUBMIT A LETTER, AND IN THOSE CASES THE COUNTY GETS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE WILL PROVIDE A LETTER OF OPPOSITION SUPPORT OR NONOX. NONOBJCTION.

IF A STATE REP DECIDES NOT TO COMMENT OR SEND A LETTER. THAT IS A CHANGE.

>> SO WE GAVE THEM THE OPTION OF NOT COMING. >> EXACTLY.

BUT THE POINTS REEL LAW GATED TO THE LETTER NOW ROLL TO THE LOCAL JURISDICTION.

>> LINA HIDALGO: FOR THE 4%? >> FOR THE 9%. >> LINA HIDALGO: FOR THE 9 AS WELL. THAT DOES PRESIDENT HAVE BEARING ON THIS, RIGHT?

>> SO THE 4%, YES. THAT WAS AN OPTION I THINK AT THE LAST COURT COMMISSION TALKED ABOUT TAKING IT OUT OF POLICY. THE POLICY HERE PUTS US IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE QAP FOR THE 9%, BUT IT DOES INCLUDE WHAT YOU WITHED -- WHAT YOU

REQUESTED AT THE LAST COURT. >> LINA HIDALGO: SO FOR PURPOSES OF THIS MOTION, THIS MOTION IS TO NOT REQUIRE STATE REP LETTER FOR THE 4% TAX CREDIT.

>> AND THE 9% NOW. AND IT PUTS IN CRITERIA RELATED TO THE COURT BEING

ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ON THE ABSENCE OF THE LETTER. >> THE STATE REP LETTER

DOESN'T MATTER. >> THE POINTS NOW ROLL DOWN IN THE AGO -- IN THE ABSENCE IF THEY DO NOT SEND THE LETTER. THEY ARE THE OPTION OF NOT SENDING A LETTER, BUT THE QAP

-- -- >> IF THEY DO SUBMIT A LETTER IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE HEEDED

TO? >> YES. IF THEY SUBMIT A LETTER, AND

THAT'S STILL IN THERE. >> SO THIS IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH STATE LAW.

>> YES. >> IN YOUR JUDGMENT, DOES IT MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU TO DO

AFFORDABLE HOUSE SNG. >> WELL, IT ALLOWS -- IT GIVES THE COUNTY MORE FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE A SAY IN THOSE PROJECTS WHERE IS THE ABSENCE OF THE STATE REP LETTER.

>> LINA HIDALGO: IF WE SUPPORT IT -- JUST TO CLARIFY, IF A STATE REP WERE TO SAY NO WE WOULD HAVE LOWER POINTS THAN THAN IF WE TAKE UP THE STATE LETTER AND SAY YES.

>> CORRECT. IF THERE IS A STATE REP LETTER WE DON'T HAVE A SAY OVER THE

POINTS THAT ARE TAKEN AWAY. >> DO WE OLE 4% -- DO WE ON THE 4% SPH.

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>> WE DO. WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGE. >> I TRYING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT MAY SOUND COMPLICATED --

>> THE ITEM IS GOOD, RIGHT, IT IS THE POLICY? >> IT IS THE POLICY THAT ALIGNS US WITH THE 2020QAP, BUT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE MOTION COMMISSIONER ELLIS PUT

FORWARD. >> IF THE POLICY IS SUBMITTED THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS OKAY

WITH IT. >> SO BASICALLY WE CAN'T REALLY ALTER STATE LAW, CON

WE? >> NOT FOR -- CAN WE? >> NOT FOR THE QAP, AND IT IS NOT DOING THAT. THE 4% I DEFER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.

I AM NOT AWARE THERE IS SAY ON THE STATE REP LETTER. THAT IS A LOCAL POLICY.

>> DO YOU WANT TO VOTE? >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER ELLIS, YOUR MOTION --

>> WANTS TO APPROVE IT. >> LINA HIDALGO: IT IS TO APPROVE THIS.

LSHT R

>> LINA HIDALGO: IS THERE A SECOND? >> I.

>> NO. >> LINA HIDALGO: I FOR. MOTION CARRIES.

YOU WANTED TO VOTE ON THE REST OF C BEFORE WE BREAK? >> I'LL MOVE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES.

IT IS 3:22 AND LET'S TAKE AN HO >> LINA HIDALGO: IT IS 4:28 AND LET'S CONTINUE WITH COMMISSIONER'S COURT. WE WILL GO BACK TO THE TOP OF THE AGENDA NOW. STARTING WITH COUNTY ENGINEER.

ITEM TWO, F2 WE NEED TO DELETE THE PHRASE "IN PRECINCT 1". AND THEN ON PAGE 6 ITEM 1

DELETE EVERYTHING AFTER HASLAM EVENTS. >> ENGINEERING -- JUDGE ON ENGINEERING I WANT TO APPRECIATE ENGINEERS CONTINUING TO WORK WITH BARRETT STATION AND CROSBY. THEY ARE WORKING ON THEIR STORM WATER AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AT BARRETT STATION AS WELL AS WORKING WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IN CROSBY. TWO AREA THAT'S HAVE BEEN UNDER SERVED FOR A LONGTIME AND JOHN, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR HELPING MOVE THE PROJECTS ALONG.

THANK YOU. >> WHAT PAGE ARE WE ON? >> LINA HIDALGO: WHAT PAGE WAS

THAT? >> PAGE 7, JOHN, COMMENT A LITTLE ON THE TRANSPORTATION

AND PARK STUDY. >> IT W ABOUT CENTRALIZATION STUDY.

AND WE RECOMMEND A CENTRALIZATION STANDARDIZATION. THIS IS THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OUTLINED ON NOT ONLY THE RECOMMENDATION, BUT HOW IT BE ACCOMPLISHED.

THERE ARE ITEMS THE EYE DITTER -- THE AUDITOR WOULD NEED TO DO AND THE PURCHASER WOULD

NEED TO DO. >> I THINK THAT IS A BIG STEP AND I'M GLAD YOU ARE DOING

IT. >> LINA HIDALGO: YES, COMMISSIONER.

>> JUDGE, ON THE SAME ITEM, JOHN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE THINGS THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE ARE ON THE RADAR AS YOU WOK -- WORK ON THIS. THAT'S NUMBER ONE, THAT'S IN RELATION TO THE ADVERTISEMENT OF HOW PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTY SEE PARKS ACROSS THE COUNTY.

IT WOULD BE TO ENSURE THAT WE GATHER ALL DATA FROM THE CURRENT PRECINCT WEBSITES TO ENSURE THAT THAT TOO IS ALSO CENTRALIZED AND THAT IT IS ALL CONSISTENT WITH ONE ANOTHER.

AS WELL AS ENSURING THAT THE -- THAT EACH PRECINCT AND MY PRECINCT IN PARTICULAR HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THE VERBIAGE OF HOW THE PARKS ARE DESCRIBED IN RELATION TO THE WEBSITE THAT MAY ULTIMATELY BE DEVELOPED SO THAT IT IS ALL INTERCONNECTED.

AS WELL AS WHEN ISSUES COME UP THAT WE GIVE ATTENTION TO MAKING ANY CHANGES IN THAT KIND OF SYSTEM AS IT RELATES TO A CENTRALIZED WEBSITE. THIS IS MORE IN THE REALM OF

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UNIVERSAL SERVICES, BUT ALSO TO ENSURE THAT THE EXISTING RESERVATION LINK AND PAGE THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR CITIZES TO BE ABLE TO RESERVE A PARK, THAT THAT TOO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PROCESS, AND THAT AS YOU WORK WITH UNIVERSAL ON A CENTRALIZED WEBSITE THAT MY PRECINCT AND THE PRE SINKS IN -- AND THE PRECINCTS IN PARTICULAR HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH HOW THE LAYOUT OF THE WEBSITE WOULD BE. MORE IN YOUR REALM IS TO ENSURE THAT THE PLAYGROUND INSPECTIONS NEED TO BE AT THE NRPA NATIONAL STANDARDS. EACH PRE SINK NEEDS TO HAVE AT LEAST A CPSI PLAYGROUND INSTRUCTOR ON STAFF, AND THE COUNTY SHOULD PROVIDE ALL PRECINCTS WITH ACCESS TO TYRIGLIA FOR WORK ORDER AND PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AT NO COST TO THE PRECINCT SH, AND THAT THIS WOULD CENTRALIZE THE FOUR PRECINCTS TO OPERATE OFF THE SAME WORK ORDER SIS -- SYSTEM FOR USE AT THE VARIOUS FACILITIES.

ALSO THAT ENGINEERING WOULD ALSO IDENTIFY THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE INSPECTORS TO PERFORM THE INSPECTION BASED ON ANY CHECKLIST THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED.

, AND ALSO -- AND ALSO DETERMINE WHO WILL FUND THE DADA WORK OFF THE CHECKLIST.

LASTLY, THAT WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING OUR OWN MASTER PLAN, BUT SINCE THERE IS THE -- THERE IS THIS CONVERSATION OF A CENTRALIZED PROCESS I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU TO DETERMINE HOW WE COVER THE COST OF THAT GREEN SPACE MASTER PLAN. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS. ONCE WE GET USER FRIENDLY READY THIS WILL BE A GREAT

THING FOR ALL CITIZENS OF HARRIS COUNTY. >> AND COMMISSIONER IT IS COLLABORATIVE OF ALL OF THE PRE SEASONING -- PRECINCTS. YOU DO THE WORK IN THE ROOM AND THEY WILL COME UP WITH WHAT THEY AGREE IS THE BEST POSSIBLE METHOD TO DISPLAY AND TRACK INFORMATION AND THEN WE WILL HAVE CONSULTANTS IN THERE THAT CAN SHOW US WHAT EVERYBODY IS DOING NATURALLY AS FAR AS ASSET MANAGEMENT. THERE MIGHT BE A BETTER SYSTEM. IF THERE IS A BETTER ONE AVAILABLE FOR PARKS WE NEED TO

KNOW ABOUT IT. >> THANK YOU. >> I WAS JUST GONNA SAY GOOD WORK. I THINK THIS MAKES LIFE A LITTLE EASIER FOR FOLKS.

I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD, ROBUST SYSTEM AND HAVING FOLKS GO TO ONE SITE TO ACCESS ALL IS GONNA MAKE IT EVEN BETTER, AND I WOULD SUGGEST SINCE WE ARE MOVING TOWARD STANDER -- STANDARDIZATION INSTEAD OF CENTRALIZATION AND SOME FOLKS GET A LITTLE NERVOUS ESPECIALLY IN MY PRE SINK THAT WE START USING THAT LANGUAGE WHEN IT IS SOLICITED ON OUR AGENDA IN TERMS OF OUR STANDARDIZATION INSTEAD OF CENTRALIZATION.

WE USE THAT LANGUAGE MOVING FORWARD. >> I'M GLAD I BROUGHT THE ISSUE UP TO LOOK AT CENTRALIZATION. I THINK THE FIRST STEP TOWARD CENTRALIZATION IS TO HAVE SOME STANDARDIZATION, AND THEN YOU CROSS THAT BRIDGE DOWN THE ROAD. THEY FUNDED THE PARK SMART PROGRAM.

I KNOW ALL OF US HAVE AN INTEREST IN GETTING MORE PARKS MONEY.

I WANT TO SEE AN ENDOWMENT AS THIS STANDARDIZATION STUDY. THEY PUT UP THE BULK OF IT, AND I THINK THEY MAY PUT UP 25, 50,000 AND THEY PUT UP LIKE 300 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU CAN SEE WHAT ACCESS THERE IS TO GREEN SPACE AND EQUITY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GUIDING PRINCIPALS AND THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. I HOPE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE ARE MORE OPEN TO USING THE TOLL ROAD MONEY FOR MORE THAN TOLL ROADS. IN THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION WE HAD, THE NUMBERS ARE NOT WRONG AS FAR AS HYPERS TEG AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE FOLKS OUT OF POVERTY. I KNOW WE ARE PAYING FOR THE BUS PLAN AND UNINCORPORATED HARRIS COUNTY, BUT WE HAVE TO FIND SOMEPLACE TO PAY FOR THAT

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ON AN ON GOING BASIS AND IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY QUALIFY FOR DISASTER RECOVERY MONEY.

THAT'S A LOGICAL PLACE. WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO PAVE SOME OF THE BAYOUS WHERE PEOPLE CAN USE THEM FOR LINEAR PARKS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

THAT WAS A PLAN WHERE THE CITY PUT UP A COUPLE HUNDRED MILLION AND THEY PUT UP MORE THAN THE CITY PUT UP TO DO OUR BAYOUSS INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE CONNECT THE BAYOUS. IT IS NICE IF YOU ARE WALKING ALONG THE GREENS AND YOU CAN GET THE HALLS AND WALK ALONG BUFFALO AND YOU CAN HAVE A SAFE ROUTE TO GET TO SIMMS OR ANOTHER ONE AND I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK UNDER THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AS THE GUIDING PRINCIPALS. YOU KNOW, SOME EQUITY IN HOW WE GET MORE PEOPLE TO GET ACCESS TO WAYS TO GET AROUND OTHER THAN THE TRADITIONAL

MODE OF TRANSPORTATION. >> THE GUIDING PRINCIPALS DO SAY THAT.

>> THE INTERIM PLAN WILL BE THE SECOND IN FEBRUARY THAT IS AN INTERIM THAT WILL LIFT EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE AND HAVE YET TO DO ALONG WITH THE DISCUSSIONS OF FINANCING.

A LOT OF IT WILL COME IN MIDSUMMER AND THEY WILL TAKE THESE OUT TO THE SUMMER.

>> YOU ARE TAKING SIDEWALKS AND EVERYTHING? >> EVERYTHING.

>> I I WOULD LIKE TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION SIDE OF THIS.

IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN THIS TALKS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM -- IT TALKS ABOUT THAT THIS MAY -- THE INFORMATION TIME FRAME, THIS COULD BE BETWEEN 12 AND 18 MONTHS.

>> THEY WILL HAVE AN INTERIM PLAN THAT IT WILL BE VERY INCOMPLETE.

AND IT WILL LIST EVERYTHING WE HAVE AND EVERYTHING THAT IS UNDERWAY.

EVERYTHING IS UNDERWAY, BUT MAYBE NOT COMPLETE. AND IT WILL COME BACK IN

FEBRUARY OF 2021. >> LET'S SHOOT FOR EARLIER. >> WELL, AS SOON AS WE CAN.

THAT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO MAKE SURE IT IS DONE RIGHT. >> AND THE FACT THAT IT IS INTEGRATED MEANING WHETHER WE WILL BE AHER HOW WILL WORATE --NO

AUDIO]. >> WE CONSIDER THAT JUST LIKE THE CONCRETE STREET INCLUDES THE MAINTENANCE OF THE STORM SEWER AND THE ASPHALT STREETS INCLUDE THE MAINTENANCE OF THE

DITCHES THREE OR FOUR TIMES A MOVMENT. >> WE WERE UNDER THE

IMPRESSION THAT IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE THE DITCHES. >> IT WILL INCLUDE THE

DITCHES. >> IF YOU CAN KEEP MY OFFICE AT LEAST INFORMED ABOUT THE PROGRESS. WHEN I STARTED THIS AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE JUMPED ON IT, I WAS WORRIED THAT IT WOULD SLOW DOWN TO WORKING MY PRECINCT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS SLOWING DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T WANT TO -- I WANT TO KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE WE WERE EXPECTING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET THIS DATA QUICK AND GET SOME WORK DONE.

>> AND YOUR DATA IS FURTHER AHEAD THAN ANYBODY ELSE. THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES ARE

DONE. THAT PALES IN COMPARISON. >> THANK YOU.

>> DO YOU HAVE TO DRIVE THEM ALL OR DO YOU HAVE DRONES? >> THEY X-RAY THEM.

WHETHER IT HAS FAILED OR ABOUT TO FAIL AND ONE OF THE DRIVE ABILITIES IS TO CHECK THE RUTS. IT NOT ONLY CHECKS THE ROUGHNESS OF THE ROAD AND HOW

IT RIDES, BUT X-RAYS IT. >> USING SOME ENERGY EFFICIENT VEHICLES.

THAT'S A LOT OF DRIVING. >> 2,000 MILES. >> LINA HIDALGO: GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I KNOW IT IS A BIG PROJECT, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT. ANYTHING ELSE ON COUNTY ENGINEER? FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT. WE HAVE A SPEAKER. ROLAND PERRY.

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>> GOOD EVENING JUDGE AND DISTINGUISHED COMMISSIONERS. I ROLAND KERRY.

I HERE ABOUT THE FLOOD BUYOUT. I LIVE IN NORTH HOUSTON.

SUPPOSEDLY IT IS NOT MANDATORY. I HAVE HEARD ABOUT LAWSUITS AND DISCRIMINATION. I HEARD THIS COMING FROM UP THERE.

THE COUNTY IS CRIME FULL. I THE ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN THAT KNOWS ABOUT IT.

I WAS TOLD BY ONE OF THE FLOOD CONTROL GUYS, WE ARE NOT BUYING YOUR HOUSE, BUT YOU ARE GOING TO TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN NEXT TO ME, BUT YOU ARE NOT BUYING MY HOUSE.

YOU CAME BACK AND CORRECTED THAT, BUT OFFERED ME 170. BY THE TIME I PAY MY MORTGAGE I MAY HAVE 100. WHERE CAN I BUY AN AFFORDABLE HOUSE BECAUSE Y'ALL HAVE BEEN ON THAT TOPIC IN THIS COUNTY. I CAN GO TO WILLIS. [INAUDIBLE] NOT IN THE CITY.

NOT IN THIS COUNTY. THERE AIN'T BUT 10 BLACK FAMILIES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD OUT OF 80 HOUSES, AND I THE ONLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN THAT KNOWS ABOUT THIS BUYOUT.

THEN WE VOTED ON THIS LAST AUGUST OF 18 FOR 2.5 BILLION AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MATCHED SOME OF THAT. THAT MONEY WAS IN VIRGINIA. JWS WHATEVER IN VIRGINIA.

THE PEOPLE HE HIRED WHILE THEY ARE IN VIRGINIA THEY WERE IN HOUSTON.

THEY WENT TO UT AND TEXAS A&M. HE WAS IN VIRGINIA.

I A PRETTY HONEST MAN. YOU GIVE ME 2.5 BILLION, I STILL IN AMERICA.

I STILL LOVE CAP -- CAPITALISM. I WILL FIND A WAY, ESPECIALLY AT 65, I WILL FIND A WAY TO GET SOME OF IT TO MY LOVED ONES.

WHAT YOU THINK HE IS DOING WITH IT? WHO IS LOOKING OVER HIS SHOULDER? HIM GIVING US MONEY BACK FOR THE REPAIRING OF OUR HOMES.

HE REPAIRED THREE HOMES IN HARRIS COUNTY, BUT PAID 1.8 MILLION.

WHERE IS THE EQUITY IN THAT? AND FOR A THOUSAND -- I MEAN A THOUSAND HOMES, 300,000 A HOUSE AND 2.5 BILLION YOU CAN BUILD QUITE A FEW HOMES. ALL I'M TRYING TO DO, HEY, I'M STILL GONNA HAVE A MORTGAGE, BUT ■I'M TRYINGTOGET A&-ÚTOWNHOS INTO THE SYSTEMS TO HELP THE

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ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TRACK PROJECTS. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE

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SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO PUT TOGETHER THE TIME MANAGEMENT TOOL WHICH IS A BIO METRICS

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TYPE OF TOOL THAT WILL INTEGRATE DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE SOFT.

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WHAT THIS IS BASICALLY THE FOUNDATION TO ALLOW US TO DO THESE ENHANCEMENTS.

WHAT YOU WILL SEE AFTER THE INITIAL LAUNCH IS THE INTEGRATIONS AND THE ENHANCEMENTS AND THE EFFICIENCIES THAT WILL COME ALONG AS THE DEPARTMENTS START TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. THE REPORTING IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN AND HOPEFULLY IF WE GET EVERYBODY TRAINED UPRIGHT, AND EVENTUALLY WE WILL, THAT REPORTING -- REQUESTING THE REPORTS AND DESIGNING THE REPORTS WILL BE IN THE DEPARTMENTS AS OPPOSED TO DEPENDING ON US TO WRITE CODE IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOMETHING A

CERTAIN WAY. >> AND HOW MANY CONSULT -- CONSULTANTS DO WE HAVE WORKING

ON THIS PROJECT? >> SO CON -- CONSULTING FIRMS OR PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND TAKING CARE OF STUFF MOSTLY WE HAVE CHANGE MANAGEMENT. AND WE HAVE SOME DEVELOPERS THAT ARE ONE OFFS OF SPECIFIC NEEDS. IT IS BECAUSE WE TOOK ON A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT RESPONSIBILITIES. THIS PROJECT COULD HAVE BEEN

AROUND 70 MILLION IF WE DIDN'T TAKE ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY. >> SO I WAS CORRECT IN ASKING WE BOUGHT A LEVEL OF THE SYSTEM AND YOU ARE DOING SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD OTHERWISE

HAVE PAID FOR? >> IT IS MORE OF A CON CONFIGURATION AS OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT. IT IS A SWITCH. DO YOU WANT TO SEE FIRST NAME OR LAST NAME FIRST? FIRST WE WOULD DEVELOP THAT. AND DO YOU WANT TO SEE YOUR FIRST NAME OR LAST NAME. WE ARE NOT GOING WITH THAT. IT IS BEST BUSINESS.

YOU WRIL LOOK -- YOU WILL LOOK AT IT LAST NATE, FIRST -- LAST NAME, FIRST NAME.

>> THE CONSULTANTS WE HAVE ARE ON CONTRACT FOR SOMETHING ELSE AND YOU ARE GETTING THEM TO DO

WORK ON THIS AS WELL? >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE WHICH ARE EXPERTS ACROSS THE NATION FOR IMPLEMENTING THIS TYPE OF SYSTEM.

>> I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. >> SPECIFICALLY FOR PEOPLE SOFT?

>> YES. >> SO THE COST OF -- IS THERE MULTIPLE PEOPLE AT PEOPLE SOFT

AND A COST FOR THE CONSULT 10 SEE? >> YES, YOU HAVE TO LICENSE THE PRODUCT. BASICALLY WHEN YOU BITD -- BID ON THAT THEY SAY WE WANT TO MAKE $10 MILLION. THEY WILL THROWN IN -- THROW IN DIFFERENT PACKAGES.

THEY WILL SAY THE PRICE IS $10 MILLION THAT WAS DONE IN PURCHASING.

THEN THEY HAVE THE MASTER AND PROJECT MANAGER AND WE GOT CHERRY ROSE WAS THE WINNING BID. THAT CAN COST YOU, WHAT, 17 MILLION, $18 MILLION? SO YOU BOUGHT IT FOR 10 MILLION AND THEN YOU GOT SAY 20 MILLION SO THAT GETS YOU TO 30 MILLION. AND THE OTHER PIECE WAS ARE WE PAYING CHERRY ROSE 20 MILLION OR 30 MILLION TO -- CON FIGURE IT, OR CAN WE BE EXPERTS ON IT AND THEN CAN STAY WITH THE PRODUCT. YOU HAVE TO HIRE SOME PEOPLE TO KEEP IT GOING.

HE CHOSE TO HYBRID THAT A LITTLE BIT. YOU CAPITALIZE THE COST OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE HAD INTERNATIONALLY. THE TOTAL COST OF IT, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WERE CHARGED TO THE CAPITAL ACCOUNT. SAME WAY IS IF YOU BUILT A BRIDGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND YOU USE INTERNAL ARCHITECTS.

IT WAS THE LAYERING THAT DID THAT. ONE OF THE OTHER MAJORS WHO CAME IN SAP, THEY DIDN'T EVEN BID ON. IT THEY SAID, LOOK, WE WANT 70 MILLION PLUS JUST TO BID ON. IT THAT'S A VERY, VERY COMPLEX SYSTEM. WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF PEOPLE SOFT AND ALREADY HAVING IT IN THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT AND THEIR PAYROLL, THAT'S WHY THAT DECISION WAS MADE.

>> I KNOW I ASKED THIS QUESTION BEFORE, WATT -- BUT WE COULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT OFF

THE HARRIS HEALTH SYSTEM? >> WE DID. >> [INAUDIBLE].

>> OKAY, GOOD. >> AND WE WILL BE DELIVERING A FEW MORE MODULES THAN WE

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EXPECTED IN THE RELEASE BECAUSE OF THE DELAY. WE WENT AHEAD AND INCORPORATED

MORE MODULES TO PUT OUT. >> AND I GUESS -- YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE WHOLE PROJECT DESCRIPTION ENTAILED AND THE TIMELINE AND THE MEETING RECORDS AND THE MINUTES IS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO LIVE IN JANUARY. JANUARY OF LAST YEAR. AND NOW WE ARE HERE A YEAR LATER. AND SO I TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE DELAY -- WHAT IS

HAPPENING THAT HAS CAUSED A YEAR DELAY? >> SO THE WHOLE THING WASN'T GOING TO LAUNCH. WE HAVE TO LAUNCH OUR FINANCIALS ONE YEAR IN.

WE HAD TWO CHOICES. LAST MARCH WHICH WE WEREN'T READY FOR.

OR THIS MARCH. THEN THERE WAS A DECISION MIDYEAR AFTER LOSING THE PROJECT MANAGER THAT JUMPED OFF THE BRIDGE OVER HERE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT IT TOOK HIM SEVERAL MONTHS TO FIND A PROJECT MANAGER AND GET UP TO SPEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO LEAD THIS PROJECT. WHILE THEY WERE DOING THE SEARCH, WE DECIDED TO IDENTIFY EXTRA MODULES THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE WHEN WE ROLLED THIS OUT.

THEY WOULD MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN AT THAT POINT THE COMMITTEE AGREED THAT IT IS BEST IF WE RELEASE IT AT YEAR-END.

I AM COMFORTABLE WITH IT BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS WHERE WE NEED IT TO BE.

TO RELEASE THESE THINGS ALL AT THE SAME TIME, MARCH 1ST, 2020.

>> GOTCHA. THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THE STAFF LEVEL WITH MY TEAM. MY CONCERN IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT IS DONE WELL WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN, AND BEFORE WE PULL THE PLUG ON IT, I DO HOPE WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION LIKE THIS ONE AND RUN THROUGH AND TRULY BE UH -- BE ASSURED THAT THERE IS SOMEONE IN CHARGE OF THIS -- YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHO IS OWNING UP ON THIS AS OPPOSED TO THE COMMITTEE, THIS GENERAL COMMITTEE AND THAT YOU HAVE RUN ALL OF THE TRACKS AND WE HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS AGAIN.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. >> LINA HIDALGO: IF IT GOES WELL, IT IS FINE. BUT IF IT GOES POORLY IT WOULD BE A BRING PROBLEM.

>> IT IS CHANGE MANAGEMENT. WE ARE WORKING WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE 20, 30 YEARS.

THEY LIKE THE WAY IT WAS. THAT'S ON THE BUSINESS PROCESS SIDE.

WE'RE WORKING HARD ON MAKING THUR -- MAKING SURE THEY ARE READY AND WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO

DO THE NEW JOB. >> LINA HIDALGO: GREAT. >> CHANGE IS HARD.

>> I CAN'T HEAR YOU, SIR. >> IT IS HELL TO BRING ABOUT CHANGE.

>> LINA HIDALGO: SO ANYTHING ELSE ON BUDGET MANAGEMENT? >> YES.

ON ITEM L BRUCE I WOULD LIKE TO -- I MEAN BILL. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT YOU CONSIDER INCLUDING REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR OFFICES ON THIS RFB COMMITTEE. IN TALKING TO MY PERSON -- PERSONNEL STAFF, THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH OUR EMPLOYEES, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE LEVERAGING THIS SYSTEM AND THIS PURCHASE TO HELP US BETTER SERVE OUR EMPLOYEES.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE INCLUDED ON THAT. AND THEN I KNOW YOU HAD TALKED

TO -- TALKED TO SOMEBODY WHO HAD A WATCH. >> I HAVE HAD -- I HAVE HAD FOUR MEETINGS WITH THEM. THE SERVICE THEY HAVE REQUIRES US TO HAVE DOCTORS AND WE DON'T PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. I PUT THEM IN CONTACT WITH ONE PROVIDER AND THEY COULDN'T COME TO AN AGREEMENT. I DID HAVE FOUR MEETINGS WITH THEM.

THEY THOUGHT WE HAD DOCTORS ON STAFF. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YU.

>> ONE OTHER ITEM, JUDGE, IS ITEM M, AND IT IS THE TRANSPARENCY ENHANCEMENT WORKING GROUP. WHO IS DOING THIS, AND WHAT ROLE DOES THIS ENTAIL, BILL?

>> IT IS SOMETHING JOSH IS WORKING ON. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE,

BUT I THINK HE HAS ALREADY TAKEN HIS NEW DUTY HAD. >> LINA HIDALGO: AND THIS CAME OUT OF MY -- MY OFFICES REQUEST WE HAVE CLEAR INFORMATION ON CIP AND BUDGET, AND SO FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE BUDGETING IS DONE.

MY TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH JOSH ON THIS. I MEAN, IT MAY BE OFF TRACK

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AFTER SOME OF THE NEW ASSIGNMENTS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME THAT THE NEXT STEP ON BUDGETING IS BEING ABLE TO HAVE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION AND TRUE UNDERSTANDING EVEN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS TO WHERE OUR MONEY IS GOING AND HOW WE ARE MEASURING IT. IT IS A BIG PROJECT. THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN WORKING

ON. IT. >> THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT VERY HARD. WE ARE ONE BIG FAMILY AND WE ARE HAPPY TO HANDLE IT IF THEY NEED ANYTHING. WE ARE JUGGLING IT, BUT WE WON'T DROP THE BALL ON

ANYTHING WE ARE WORKING ON. >> LINA HIDALGO: AND I WILL MAKE SURE QULOR STUFF GETS AN

UPDATE. >> THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: THAT IS

BUDGET MANAGEMENT. >> YES -- >> LINA HIDALGO: I'M SORRY.

-- >> I'M SORRY. >> LINA HIDALGO: LEGISLATIVE

RELATIONS. UNIVERSAL -- YES? >> WE HAVE HERE THIS CHANGE TO GLOBAL AFFAIRS. CAN WE ASK THAT THEY KIND OF TAKE A PEEK AT THAT AND MAYBE NOT MAKE IT SO GRANDIOSE? I GOT QUITE THE THOROUGH REPORT FROM THEM AND I WOULD HAVE TO SAY I GET A LOT OF OUT REACH FROM THE CONSULATE. YOU SUBMITTED -- YOU BRO EBBING DOWN -- YOU BROKE DOWN WORD BYWORD WE WILL SEE HOW THIS GOES.

>> RULERS OF THE GALAXY. >> UNIVERSAL WAS TAKEN SPECIFICALLY ON THE GLOBAL PART, WE ARE A GLOBAL COUNTY. WE HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL PORT, THIRD LARGEST IN THE COUNTRY.

AND WE GOT INTO A PORT ISSUE AND THEY REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WASN'T JUST A LOCAL COUNTY THING. THIS WAS AN INTERNATIONAL ISSUE.

WE CAN SEE THIS AS A FRONT. WITH THIS DEPARTMENT BEING SORT OF AN OUTWARD FACING DEPARTMENT AND THOSE ISSUES FLOATING IT, IT JUST REFLECTS WHAT THE DEPARTMENT DOES AND I

THINK IT WILL HELP US WITH OTHER ACTIVITIES. >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER

GARCIA? >> THANK YOU, JUDGE. IS THERE ANYTHING -- IS THERE

ANY CONCERN WITH USING INTERNATIONAL? >> IT'S A LONGER TITLE.

AND WITH GLOBAL THERE ARE NONGOL GLOBAL ENTITY THAT'S ARE NATIONAL ENTITIES.

IT IS NOT JUST WORKING AMONG NATIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW,Y -- WE HAVE THE VIRUS ISSUE RIGHT NOW. THERE ARE INTERNATIONAL ENTITIES THAT WORK ON THAT.

>> LINA HIDALGO: COMMISSIONER ELLIS? >> RODNEY ELLIS: WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, YOU TOLD ME THAT OTHER COUNTIES AND MAYBE CITIES ARE USING -- I THINK WHEN YOU SPOKE TO ME ABOUT IT YOU MENTIONED OTHER COUNTIES AND CITIES MOVING IN THIS

DIRECTION. >> ABSOLUTELY. IN A WAY WE ARE PLAYING A LITTLE BIT OF CATCH UP AND THEY HAVE SIX PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS IN THEIR DEPARTMENT AND WORKING ON THESE ISSUES AND WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PLAY OUR

PART CONSIDERING OUR LARGE AND UNINCORPORATED AREAS. >> SO FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH, I THINK THE ISSUES WILL FIND THAT THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE NAME.

I WOULD PROBABLY GET MY TONGUE TWISTED TRYING TO SAY INTER GOVERNMENTAL -- I GUESS IT IS

IGA? >> IGA. >> WAS THERE ANY REASON YOU THOUGHT OF -- I GUESS IT DOESN'T MATTER. I LIKE GLOBAL AND I LIKE

INTERNATIONAL. >> THE GLOBAL, IT WAS A TONGUE TWISTER, BUT LIKE I SAID IT

REFLECTS ALL THOSE THINGS. WE KNOW THAT IT IS BROADER. >> I LIKE IGA INSTEAD OF IIA.

AT THE END OF THE DAY [INAIDABLE] >> LINA HIDALGO: DO WE NEED TO

VOTE ON THIS? >> I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE HARRIS COUNTY AFFAIRS.

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WE MAY BE GLOBAL, BUT IT IS US. >> IT IS DEFINITELY US.

>> HCA. >> INTERNATIONALLY IF WE GOT HARRIS COUNTY AFFAIRS I DON'T

WANT MY OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO BE JEALOUS. >> CAN YOU LIVE WITH THIS AND TRY IT OUT AND IN SIX MONTHS IT KEEPS YOU UP YOU MAKE A MOTION TO CALL IT IGA?

>> I LOVE THE WORK HE IS DOING. >> KEY CAN HAVE A GLOBAL

AFFAIR DEPARTMENT. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. >> HOW ABOUT INTER

COLLEGIATE. >> AT THE RISK OF CONTINUING TO DIGRESS AT 5:17 IN THE AFTERNOON, INTER GALACTIC MAY NOT BE TOO FAR OFF. THERE IS A FAMOUS SCIENCE

FICTION MOVIE -- >> JUST FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING OUT OF HERE AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH AN OPEN MIND DOWN THE

ROAD IN SIX MONTHS THAT MAYBE WE ARE TALKING -- >> IF I HATE IT YOU WILL THINK

ABOUT IT AGAIN? >> I ALWAYS -- IT'S ME. >> DON'T BUY A FIVE-YEAR SET

OF STATIONARY. >> LINA HIDALGO: IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I SECOND. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN FAVOR?

>> FOR WORLD DOMINATION. >> LINA HIDALGO: OPPOSED? >> OPPOSED.

LOVE YOU, BUT NO. >> IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, JUDGE, I APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND I HAVE HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH SEVERAL BECAUSE OF OTHER THINGS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS NOT JUST THE CITY OF HOUSTON THEY ARE WORKING WITH, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE THE COUNTY WELCOMING TO THE CON -- CONSOLE GENERAL.

>> JUDGE, IF YOU GET ANY RIBBING ABOUT BIG GLOBAL AFFAIRS YOU CAN PUT THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO MAKE IT INTERNATIONAL. IT IS AN IMPORTANT AREA AND BECAUSE WE ARE IN A NATIONAL GALACTIC REGION WE SHOULD TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU. >> MY DAUGHTER'S DOG'S NAME IS

LUKE SO SHE HAS A FIT WHEN I SAY, LUKE, I'M YOUR FATHER. >> LINA HIDALGO: I A NUMBER

ONE "STAR WARS" FAN. UNIVERSAL SERVICES? >> I'VE GOT A QUESTION ON ITEM

B, JUDGE. >> LINA HIDALGO: YEAH. >> ON ITEM B AND ROBERT, HELP ME WITH THIS, BUT SINCE THIS ITEM IS STILL TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE TECHNOLOGY SERVICES AND THE FLEET IN PARTICULAR, THE FLEET SERVICES WHICH THE SHARE LIVE'S OFFICE -- SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS A BIG USER OF, AND BRUCE IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN WHEN YOU DO TECHNOLOGY AND YOU INCORPORATE THE FLEET ELEMENT INTO IT YOU ARE TAKING ON RESPONSIBILITY FOR BUILDING OUT THE PATROL CARS AND THE SYSTEMS IN THERE INCLUDING THE COMPUTER AND AS

A CONSEQUENCE SUPERIOR. >> THAT'S CORRECT. ANYTHING THAT IS ATTACHED WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BUILD, AND IT IS A STANDARDS COMMITTEE THAT DWIGHT HEADS UP AND IT BRINGS ALL OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TOGETHER. THAT EQUIPMENT IS CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. THE LAST THING WE DO IS A STICKER WHEN WE IDENTIFY WHO

GETS TO BE HERE. >> GOOD DEAL. SO BRUCE THIS IS A JERMAINE

ITEM -- EXCUSE ME. BRUCE, BILL, ROBERT. >> SKYWALKER.

>> ROBERT, SO THIS IS JERMAINE TO TALK ABOUT SUPERION? >> SUPERION IS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT. IT BUT NO ACTION CAN BE

TAKEN. >> IN THAT CASE I GOING TO PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

IF I CAN'T ACTION ON IT. I JUST REALLY AT THE POINT OF AUDIT TO BEEF L

>> OUGHT -- POINT OF AN AUDIT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND. >> ASKING THE AUDITOR TO DO

THAT. >> I WOULD LIKE -- I WILL GET YOU MORE DETAILS ON WHAT I WANT THE AUDIT TO INCLUDE. WHEN I SEE THE DEPUTY THAT'S ARE HERE AND I HAVE GOTTEN CONSISTENT FEEDBACK ON HOW UNSAFE -- THE CONVERSATION HAS CHANGED FROM JUST BEING A

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SYSTEM THAT IS FEASIBLE AND IT CREATED A CONVERSATION FROM THE DEPUTY'S POINT OF VIEW OF HOW UNSAFE THE SYSTEM IS. SO I JUST AM NOT COMFORTABLE BECAUSE I AM NOT COMFORTABLE

WHEN A DEPUTY SAYS I FEEL UNSAFE USING THIS SYSTEM. >> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THAT'S IT FOR UNIVERSAL SERVICES.

THANK YOU. PUBLIC HEALTH. POLLUTION CONTROL.

>> YOUR HONOR ON POLLUTION CONTROL I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION THAT AFTER THEY LOOK INTO IT THEY WILL BRING BACK -- OUR AUDITOR IS MAKING NOISES OVER HERE, JUDGE.

>> SHE IS GROWLING. >> THAT'S WHAT AUDITS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.

>> THERE IS OUR BRILLIANT DOCTOR THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CLARIFICATION THAT WE ARE NOT VOTING ON A FINAL PROGRAM HERE.

THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WILL STUDY AND BRING BACK LATER? >> IT WAS JUST AN IDEA THAT WE COULD MOVE TOWARD SOMETHING MORE GREEN AND REDUCE THE CARBON FOOTPRINT.

>> WE PREVIOUSLY IN PRECINCT FOUR TRIED TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND THEY DIDN'T WORK OUT BECAUSE OF THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES WHEN YOU USE SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGIES LIKE THE NATURAL GAS AND ALL, THEY COULD IGNITE.

I GIST WANT TO -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU LOOK AT IT BEFORE YOU ADOPT IT AND TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES OF THE KIND WHERE

WE KNOW WHATNOT TO DO. >> YES, SIR. >> LINA HIDALGO: THANK YOU FOR THINKING OF THIS. WE DON'T OFTEN GET TO BUILD A FLEET FROM SCRATCH AND YOU ARE TRYING TO USE IT TO FURTHER THE MISSION ON THE PREVENTION SIDE IS FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> JUDGE, WE DID THE SAME THING. WE WILL BE BRINGING A REPORT BACK PROBABLY IN ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS. WE WEREN'T CREATING A FLEET. WE WERE REPLACING IT.

YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF PRIUSES WITH ENGINEERING AND WE MOVED THE SMALLER TRUCKS AND WE WILL

HAVE A FULL SURVEY TO BRING BACK. >> LINA HIDALGO: GREAT.

THAT'S FANTASTIC. I IMAGINING THERE ARE COST SAVINGS.

>> YES, WE WILL BE ABLE TO SHARE THE FUEL SAVINGS. THE MAINTENANCE SAVINGS WE CAN ESTIMATE AND BRUCE IS WORKING WITH US. THEY WON'T ACTUALLY OCCUR

UNTIL THEY OCCUR. >> LINA HIDALGO: GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> LINA HIDALGO: COMMUNITY SERVICES WE ALREADY APPROVED. CONSTABLES. SHERIFF.

>> JUDGE ON ITEM B -- ON ITEM B, I JUST ASK FOR AN AUDIT ON THE COMPUTER SYSTEM AND I -- WHEN I TOOK OFFICE AS A SHERIFF, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE USED TO BE ENTIRELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS OWN FLEET AND FOR BUILDING OUT ITS OWN VEHICLES AND REPAIRING ITS OWN VEHICLES, AND THEN THAT OPERATION WAS MOVED OVER TO UNIVERSAL SERVICES BECAUSE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE EFFICIENCIES. NUMBER ONE EFFICIENTS AND COST SAVINGS. EARLIER I ASKED FOR A REPORT ON WHAT COST SAVINGS HAD COME OUT OF THE PROCESS AND NEVER GOT A REPORT ON THAT. I JUST VERY, VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT UNTIL I GET THAT AUDIT BACK THAT UNIVERSAL SERVICES WOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SUPPORT THE SHERIFF IN HIS OPERATIONS TO HANDLE THEIR DEPARTMENT AND THEIR NEEDS AND WORK WITH UNIVERSAL SERVICES AS THEY NEED TO, BUT I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME TO ALLOW THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO WORK WITH BUDGET MANAGEMENT DIRECTLY. AND HAVE THE SHERIFF IDENTIFY THE FOLKS YOU WOULD NEED TO DO THE WORK THAT THEIR TROOPS REQUIRE.

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THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION I WOULD BE PUTTING TO AMEND THIS ITEM THAT UNIVERSAL SERVICES

BE REMOVED FROM THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS. >> LINA HIDALGO: REQUEST FOR AUTHORIZATION WITH BUDGET MANAGEMENT AND THE REST STAYS ?

>> YES. >> IS THERE A MOTION OR IS THIS --

>> A MOTION. >> WHAT IS EXACTLY THE MOTION?

>> THE MOTION IS TO REMOVE UNIVERSAL SERVICES. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 11B?

>> 11B. >> I SECOND IT. >> YOU JUST DON'T WANT THEM TO

BE INVOLVED? >> THEY CAN BE INVOLVED AS THE SHERIFF DEEMS NECESSARY.

I WILL LEAVE THE SHERIFF TO DECIDE. >> SO THEY ARE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CARS, BUT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE INVOLVED?

>> WELL THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW ESPECIALLY WITH THE TECHNOLOGY PIECE BEING A MAJOR RISH -- A MAJOR ISSUE WITH WHERE UNIVERSAL SERVICES IS.

THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM A COUPLE OF DEPUTIES WHO CAN GIVE YOU REAL CLEAR POINT OF VIEW, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THEM UP TO TALK ABOUT IT.

>> I DON'T NEED TO HEAR THAT. I JUST THINK IF THEY ARE GONNA BE SUPPOSEDLY PART OF THE

PROCESS TO FIX IT, THEY OUGHT TO BE AT THE TABLE. >> I WILL LET THE SHERIFF DECIDE THAT. IT'S BEEN DONE THE OTHER WAY AROUND BEFORE, AND I THINK IT

IS TIME WE TURN TO THAT PROCESS. >> SO JUDGE, I SECOND IT BECAUSE IF THE SHERIFF HAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT HAPPENING THIS WAY, HE CAN

MAKE A REQUEST THAT THEY BE INVOLVED. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> SO THE SHERIFF DOES PRESIDENT WANT TO -- DOESN'T WANT TO TALK TO UNIVERSAL

SERVICES ANYMORE? IS THAT THE DEAL? >> WE WILL LET THE SHERIFF DECIDE. THE SHERIFF NEEDS TO BE PRINCE PLEA IN CONTROL OF HIS

RESOURCES ? >> ISN'T THIS HIS MOTION? >> THIS IS HIS MOTION.

>> HIS REQUEST ASKING TO TALK TO THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE HE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THEM?

>> UP TO THIS POINT. I WILL MAKE AN AMENDMENT ON IT BASED ON CONVERSATIONS.

>> IS THE SHERIFF HERE? >> NOPE. >> A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE --

>> LINA HIDALGO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF

TIME WE CAN VOTE ON IT. >> JUDGE, I WANT TO SAY IF IT IS A PROBLEM THE SHERIFF CAN BRING IT BACK. IT IS 5:29 AND Y'ALL HAVING A GOOD TIME, BUT YOU WILL HAVE A

LOCKED DOOR IN ABOUT AN HOUR. >> HE SAN KIRK -- HE CAN CIRCLE BACK IF HE NEEDS TO.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> LINA HIDALGO: ALL IN

FAVOR? >> I. >> DID THE SHERIFF ASK FOR

THIS TO BE CHANGED? >> THIS IS THE ITEM THEY PUT ON THERE.

>> I VOTE NO. >> I VOTE TO SUPPORT IT THE WAY THE SHERIFF POSTED IT.

>> LINA HIDALGO: THAT WAS THE SHERIFF. I V

>> FOR THE WAY THAT THE SHERIFF ASKED IT ORIGINALLY OR THE AMENDMENT?

>> LINA HIDALGO: FOR THE MOTION PROPOSED BY COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

>> THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. >> LINA HIDALGO: FIRE MARSHALL. INSTITUTE OF FORENSIC SCIENCES. COUNTY CLERK. COUNTY ATTORNEY.

WE HAVE A SPEAKER. THAT IS ON THE TRANSMITAL OF A REPORT BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY OF THE FEASIBILITY OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE COMMISSION.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SHE'S HERE. SO THE MOTION IS -- WE ALL RECEIVED THE REPORT FROM THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING ON THAT. WE HEARD FROM SPEAKERS LAST

>> WE NEED SOME INFORMATION ON THE SIZE OF THIS COMMISSION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE TODAY.

WE MADE THE ITEM BROAD ENOUGH SO THAT YOU COULD IF YOU WANTED TO.

>> DOCTOR SLOAN HAS BEEN IN THE HALLWAY. I THINK SHE WANTS TO TALK ON THIS. DO YOU KNOW WHO DOCTOR SLOAN IS?

>> SHE DID MENTION IT. MAYBE IF WE KEEP GOING.

>> SO THE BYLAWS AND THE REPORT PROPOSED THE MISSION ADOPT THE BYLAWS AND

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>> PERHAPS THE COMMISSIONERS TODAY AND DESIGNATE THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

WE ARE SUGGESTING A FIVE-MEMBER COMMISSION THEY ARE COMING BACK TO COMMISSIONER Ã

>> I HAVE A MOTION HERE TO CREATE THE HARRIS COUNTY AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL COMMISSION AND DEFER ADOPTING THE ADOPTION OF THE BYLAWS FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO REVIEW THEM AND AMEND THEM IF NECESSARY. AND ALSO I MOVE FOR THE BYLAWS FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE COURT, TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT MEETS THE QUALIFICATION AND THE

PROPOSED BYLAWS. >> I AM NOT FOLLOWING WHAT THAT MEANS BUT I THINK BASICALLY WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT EACH MEMBER DESIGNATE A MEMBER I MOST LIKELY NEXT COMMISSIONER. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MEMBER APPOINTED TO START AT THIS MOMENT. YOU CAN CREATE A COMMISSION BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MEMBERS.

>> THAT WORKS PEERLESS SAY NO LATER THAN ÃTO ALLOW FOLKS, NO LATER THAN A MONTH FROM NOW.

SO EACH OF US CAN APPOINT SOMEBODY.

>> SO ONE MOTION IS TO CREATE THE HARRIS COUNTY AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL COMMISSION FOR ADOPTING THE BYLAWS AND NUMBER TWO MEMBERS OF THE COURT TO NAME A COMMISSIONER BY NO LATER THAN. [INDISCERNIBLE].

>> SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.

>> SO THAT'S COUNTY ATTORNEY Ã SO WE HAVE SPEAKERS ALSO ON PAGE 15.

ROBIN DEY AND CAROLYN CORONADO. THANK YOU. I AM CAROLYN CORONADO SORRY I KEEP SAYING THAT THE HARRIS COUNTY COURT REPORTERS ASSOCIATION.

I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR. [INDISCERNIBLE] FINAL APPROVAL TODAY FOR THE PAYROLL DEDUCTION FOR THE MEMBERS. THAT'S WHAT I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON. I JUST CAME TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT AND WE JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING ON PROJECTS THE COURT REPORTERS MAKING THINGS BETTER AND WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY TO IMPROVE THE COURT REPORTERS WORKING CONDITIONS. HANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONER GARCIA AND COMMISSIONER. [INDISCERNIBLE] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME?

>> SAY HELLO TO MY FORMER BOSSES.

>>. [LAUGHTER] >> AND CHRIS FELDMAN AND.

[INDISCERNIBLE] HAD TO LEAVE BUT HE WANTED TO COME AND PERSONALLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR

SUPPORT. >> THANKS FOR BEING SO PATIENT.

>> I DID NOT WANT TO PASS THAT MY CHANCE TO SAY THANK YOU IN PERSON.

>> PUBLIC DEFENDER. DISTRICT COURT. TRAVEL AND TRAINING.

PAGE 17 ITEM 18 B 25 A REQUEST FROM ÃTHAT NO ACTION BE TAKEN ON THAT ITEM.

>> ON PAGE 17. ITEM 11. IS BRUCE HERE? BRUCE, COME ON THEN. COME ON DOWN. MR. ÃPAGE 17 ITEM 11 YOU HAVE

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4 PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO GET TRAINED AND ÃUNIVERSAL SERVICES.

>> AND NAME OF A COMPUTER PROGRAM.

>> IT'S NOT A PROGRAM BUT AS A SOLUTION.

>> IT SQUEEZES YOU TO DEATH? >> IF YOU ARE NOT NICE.

>> I HAD TO FIND OUT WHAT PYTHON WAS PLACEMENT OF THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS ADOPTED UNIVERSAL SERVICES AND HAS MOVED IT AND RADIO UNDER A STATEWIDE PROGRAM UNDER UNIVERSAL SERVICES. A GOOD FRIEND OF MIND IS OVER THAT RIGHT NOW.

>> BEST PRACTICES. >> SNAKES ALL AROUND US.

>> SO THAT WAS TRAVEL AND TRAINING. PHYSICAL SERVICES AND PURCHASING. [INDISCERNIBLE] WE HAVE A SPEAKER ON PAGE 26.

>> THANK YOU AGAIN TO CANINES FOR COPS OR ANOTHER TRAINED EXPLOSIVES DETECTION DOG THAT WE ARE NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR. THANK YOU KRISTI.

>> CANINES FOR COPS. >> AND ON PAGE 26.

ITEM 11 J SPEAKER JAMES HUGHES. >> HAD AFTERNOON JUDGMENT GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JAMES HUGHES. ON BEHALF OF ÃPARKING I WOULD LIKE TO FILE A FORMAL PROTEST TO THE PARKING METER SERVICES FOR THE JOB 1900258.

THE PARKING MANAGEMENT CONTRACT THE PARKING HAS BEEN THE PARKING OPERATOR FOR HARRIS COUNTY COURT SYSTEM FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS WE REMAIN IN GOOD STANDING AND HAVE PROVIDED EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE WE ARE VERY PROUD OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS HAVING MADE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE YEARS WHICH HAVE GREATLY IMPROVED CUSTOMER SERVICE AND BASED ON THE LIMITED SERVICE PROVIDED BY THE PURCHASING OFFICE THE INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE RIGHTS TO PROTEST AND THE UNCLEAR TIMELINES FOR PRESENTING A FORMAL PROCESS WE DON'T BELIEVE THE PROCUREMENT CONTESTS PROVIDED FOR FAIR AND EQUITABLE TREATMENT ESPECIALLY SENT BY EMAIL AND APPEARS TO BE A RECOMMENDATION FOR WARD NOTICE THEREFORE WE ARE PROTESTING THE AWARD TO REMAIN ÃHAVE AMPLE TIME FOR US TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS AND GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE AWARD. ON FRIDAY THE 17TH 2020 WE RECEIVED A COPY OF THE ATTACHED NOTICE THIS WAS AN EXTENSIVE PROCESS THAT STARTED IN LAST YEAR. IT DID NOT PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION A RECOMMENDATION TO THE AWARD TO CONTRACT WITH LANIER. VENDORS WERE NOT PROVIDED COPIES OF THE ATTACHMENT THAT WERE REFERENCED IN THE LETTER PER THE ONLY INFORMATION PROVIDED WAS A BRIEF NOTIFICATION THAT THE AWARD WAS BEING SENT TO COMMISSIONERS COURT FOR APPROVAL. SUBSEQUENTLY WE HAVE SUBMITTED A FORMAL REQUEST FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION FROM THE HARRIS COUNTY AUDITOR'S OFFICE AND PURCHASING AGENT TO INCLUDE ALL SUBMITTED PROPOSALS, PRICING WORKSHEETS KOBO PRESENTATIONS, EVALUATIONS AND ANY COMMENTS OR NOTES PROVIDED BY MEMBERS OF THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE. WE HAVE CONTACTED THE PURCHASING A BUDGET MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR CLARIFICATION.

WE ARE REQUESTING THIS INFORMATION TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HARRIS COUNTY'S

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DECISION TO AWARD THIS CONTRACT TO ANOTHER COMPANY. AS OF TODAY, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE REQUESTED INFORMATION OR ANY CLARIFICATION ON THE EVALUATION PROCESS. CONSIDERING OUR GOOD STANDING WITH THE COUNTY WE WANT TO FURTHER UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS FOR THIS AND PROTESTING THIS AWARD PENDING THE COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THE REQUESTED DOCUMENTS AND EVALUATION PROCESS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> SO, [INDISCERNIBLE] THE RP PROCESS. WE DID GO TO THE RP PROCESS IN A RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU IS THAT WE CANNOT PROVIDE THE BACKUP DOCUMENTATION AND THE DEBRIEF.

MR. TAYLOR? >> MR. JAMES.

>> BECAUSE OF THE COURT DECIDES WE DON'T WANT TO AWARD THIS WE CANNOT CONTINUE ON THE VENDORS.

THIS IS THE NORMAL PRACTICE THAT INFORMATION IS NOT PROVIDED.

WE WILL GIVE THEM A DEBRIEFING. WE WILL ALL ALLOW THAT TO BE AWARDED OR RESCINDED AS IT STANDS TODAY WITH THAT IN MIND WE CANNOT PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.

AND IF THE COURT RUNS TÃWANTS T HOLD IT. ÃIF WE DECIDE NOT TO AWARDED

TO THE VENDOR. >> SO IF WE AWARDED, HE CAN GET HIS BRIEFING, HE CAN FILE A PROTEST, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THERE, WE CAN RESEND IT.

>> AND THE COURTS ARE AWARE WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A PROTEST POLICY IT'S CLEAR HOW THEYFILE

THAT PROTEST. >> THE ONLY THING HE WILL KNOW

WHAT'S THERE IS IF WE AWARDED. >> AND IS NOT YOU GIVE THEM A JUST ADVANTAGE. THEY ARE WELCOME TO COME BACK TO THE NEXT COURT AND SAY WE DISAGREE WITH THE DEBRIEFING BUT WHEN THEY SEE THE LAYOUT THEY WILL UNDERSTAND WHY THE

DECISION WAS MADE. >> WE HAVE TO AWARDED SO WE CAN PROTEST. THERE IS NO PROTEST UNTIL WE AWARDED.

>> THOSE OF THE STEPS AND WE WILL HAVE THAT IN WRITING TO PROVIDE IN THE NEAR FUTURE >> JUDGE, I WILL ADD, I APPLAUD YOU FOR DOING THIS. ÃPOLICY AND NONETHELESS, IT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL FOR VENDORS TO KNOW WHY. [INDISCERNIBLE] AND GENERALLY SPEAKING WE HAD THAT ISSUE COME UP IN THE PASS. AFTER A CONVERSATION THEY MAY NOT LIKE THE ANSWER BUT AT LEAST WE ARE OPENING THE BOOKS AND MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD HOW WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS IN A HOUSE PEOPLE BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE FUTURE.

>> IF IT'S A NORMAL STRAIGHT BID KIND OF NEGOTIATION INVOLVED WE DO OPEN UP THOSE BOOKS PRIOR TO THIS AWARD FOR THIS PROCESS HAS TO BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SHOW EVERYTHING THAT'S OPEN.

>> I HAVE NEVER HAD ANYONE SAY THEY ARE IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE COUNTY.

YOU HAVE A LETTER THAT SAYS THAT?

>> WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 10 YEARS IN OUR CONTRACT EXPIRED FIVE YEARS AGO WE ARE GOOD STANDING. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER SUPPORT UNDER Ã WE HAVE GONE OVER MY ITEM. PRECINCT 1. STUDENT GOING BACK TO PURCHASING.HE OTHER ITEM I AM EXCITED ABOUT IS THIS Ã INSTITUTE ON OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLANNING, MARKET DEMAND, THIS IS IMPORTANT BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAD

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EARLIER. IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THAT ON THE AGENDA.

>> PRECINCT 1. PRECINCT 2. >> ON ITEM NUMBER ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS ITEM SUBJECT TO APPROVAL. WE HAVE DONE THIS FOR 40 YEARS OR LONGER AND WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS APPROVED SUBJECT TO AN AGREEMENT BEING DEVELOPED AND APPROVED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN ITEM 2 I WANT TO SPEAK ON IT VERY QUICKLY. I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

AS YOU KNOW I AM BUILDING AN ALL-INCLUSIVE PARK THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ÃWITH STUDENTS FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT STUDENTS WHO HAVE SPECIAL CHALLENGES. DISABILITIES AND HAVE THEM WORK IN OUR PARKS AND IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP. UNFORTUNATELY, I NEED TO ASK FOR A TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE THE AGREEMENT IS BEING REVISED AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT AGENDA.

>> NOTED. PRECINCT 3. >> PRECINCT 4.

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> MOVING ON TO MISCELLANEOUS.

THIS ANYONE HAVE COMMENTS? >> ITEM BE WAS IN ITEM I REQUESTED AND I APPRECIATE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE SUBMITTED AT LAST COUNT WE HAD THREE DEPARTMENTS SUBMIT INFORMATION. I WAS REALLY TAKEN BACK BY THE AMOUNT OF INACTIVITY IN SOME OF THESE COMMITTEES. SOME WITH NO REPORTS AND NO ACTION SO I AM WAITING TO GET THE FINAL REPORT ON THIS. I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD POINT OF CONVERSATION.

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>> EMERGENCY AND SUPPLEMENTAL ITEMS. ITEM 1? THIS IS THAT THE DEBT COLLECTION ITEM. ITEM 2. ITEM 1 ON PAGE 33.

>> YOUR MICROPHONE IS OFF. >> I'M SORRY.

IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. I KNOW THERE IS A HEARING GOING ON IN AUSTIN.

>> IT'S ABOUT THE TAX COLLECTION.

>> THERE IS A HEARING GOING ON IN AUSTIN. THE WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE.

I'M NOT SURE. AND I DO THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE GIVE SOME SENSE OF WHAT

OUR THOUGHTS ARE BUT I WANT TO ASK WHAT THOUGHTS YOU HAVE >> AS WE SPELL OUT HERE, CURRENTLY THE WAY TAX COLLECTION WORKS, AND OUTSIDE LAW FIRM AUTOMATICALLY RECEIVES 20 PERCENT OF WHATEVER IS OWED WHEN THE ACCOUNTS TURNED OVER TO THE LAW FIRM.

IF THEY FILE A LAWSUIT, IF ONE PHONE CALL OR 2 LETTERS, IS 20 PERCENT.

THEORETICALLY IT'S POSSIBLE THEY NEGOTIATE AT A LOWER RATE BUT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AND WE HAVE BEEN TOLD WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN IT MIGHT BE FROM ONE YEAR BUT IT KICKS BACK UP TO 20 PERCENT. THE LAW DOES NOT GIVE AN EQUIVALENT TO BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY WITH THE COUNTY USED AN IN-HOUSE RESOURCE SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE COUNTY SENDS A LETTER TO SOMEONE WHO OWES TAXES OR MAKES A PHONE CALL, THE COUNTY CANNOT RECOVER ITS COSTS. THERE IS A PROVISION THAT THE COUNTY FILES A LAWSUIT DRAGS A

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PERSON INTO COURT AND GETS A JUDGMENT THE COUNTY GETS 15 PERCENT.

WE ARE ASKING THAT THE COUNTY BE ALLOWED TO RECOVER THE COSTS INCURRED IN COLLECTING

DELINQUENT TAXES. >> ESSENTIALLY YOU ARE ASKING

US TO TAKE A DECISION IF WE WANT TO CHARGE LESS >> I CAN TELL YOU FROM OUR EXPERIENCE OUR OFFICE, THE COSTS ARE FAR LESS THEN 20 PERCENT AND THE COUNTY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAKE A PROFIT ON SUCH THINGS. IT CAN ONLY CHARGE THE ACTUAL COSTS REGARDLESS OF HOW IT'S CALCULATED.

>> I DON'T HAVE THE CHARGE IN FRONT OF ME BUT I THINK THEY ARE LOOKING AT PROPERTY TAX

COLLECTION. >> I HAD IT PRINTED OUT AND I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. I THOUGHT IT WAS PROPERTY TAX COLLECTION.

>> PROPERTY TAX. >> I DO WANT TO ASK BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL BECAUSE I THINK THERE WERE SOME ANALOGIES.

HOW ARE WE DOING ON ⌟ >> OUR OFFICE DID IN INTERNAL LOOK AT THAT TO PROVIDE THAT BACK TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND WE WILL GIVE YOU A FORMAL RESPONSE WITH INDICATIONS ARE THE AVERAGE WAS ABOUT 45 PERCENT OF WHAT THE CITIZENS Ã AND IT'S MUCH MORE EFFICIENT WE ARE DOING A BETTER JOB.

>> MORE MONEY IS COSTING CUSTOMERS. AND WE DID HAVE A BRIEF CONVERSATION ABOUT IT AND BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING ACTIVE IN GETTING ACCOUNTS BACK IN THE

CUSTOMERS MARKETING BACK IN >> BECAUSE THEY ARE RELATED, WHAT'S THE PENALTY ON THE

TOLLROAD? >> CUSTOMERS.

>> THERE IS A FIXED AMOUNT. I GOT ONE FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR $1.35.

I NEVER GOT A NOTICE. IT WAS FOR $1.35 ON THE FEE THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS IS GETTING IS $35 AND THAT'S COLLECTED BY FURMAN PENNSYLVANIA, AND HARRISBURG.

>> IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHARGED TO MY EASY TAG.

>> I'M ASKING BECAUSE I WANT TO SUBMIT A REPORT BECAUSE ÃA HEARING BEFORE WE MEET AGAIN.

>> I WILL TRY TO HAVE SOMETHING GATHERED.

>> AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST WHY YOU HAVE TO CHARGE 15 OR 20 PERCENT ON THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENT WE OFF TO DO 20 PERCENT. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> VISUALLY, WHEN THEY AGREED TO COVER THE COST OF THE CURRENT COLLECTION SYSTEM, AS IN THE TAX OFFICE, TENS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THE COURT RAISED IT TO 20 PERCENT.

>> THE LAW SAYS YOU HAVE TO GIVE 15 PERCENT AND YOU CAN GIVE 20 PERCENT.

SO I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK WE HAD TO EXPRESS, BUT MAY GO RIGHT IN, WHY SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT ENGAGE IN PRICE-FIXING? THEY CAN PUT A ÃIT CAN BE LOWER. THAT'S UNCOMMON.

>> TO PUT IT KINDLY. THIS IS GOOD BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADD THE POINT.

I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL THE FIRST TIME THE CITY DID IT. THE CITY SPLIT THE FEE.

WITH THE PRIVATE LAW FIRM AND SOMEBODY WENT TO THE LEGISLATURE AND CHANGE THE LOSS HE COULDN'T SPLIT IT. SOMEBODY WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF YOU DID IT HE DID IT WITH A PRIVATE LAW FIRM AND WILL WILL ÃMONOPOLY AND I THINK I WANT TO MAKE SURE I MADE THE POINT

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AND ÃON HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO GIVE TO THE PRIVATE FIRM OR US AND WHY COULDN'T WE MAKE IT A LOWER PENALTY OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY IS NOT PAYING TAXES AND SOMETHING'S WRONG WITH THEM. THEY WON'T GIVE UP THEIR PROPERTY OR THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IS SO ÃWE WON'T GET YOU TO PAY SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE MONEY IS CHARGING MORE MONEY TO

PAY. >> COMMISSIONER GARCIA.

>> THANK YOU. TWO QUESTIONS. ONE WOULD BE FOR THE COMMISSIONER. I LIKE THE IDEA OF NOT SETTING A.

[INDISCERNIBLE] BUT HOW WOULD WE CALCULATE WITH THAT WOULD BE? ACTUAL COST? BUDGET MANAGEMENT IS VERY GOOD AT CALCULATING SUCH THINGS.

IT'S A MATTER OF TAKING WHAT RESOURCES OUR OFFICE DEVOTES. HOW MANY LAWYERS ARE INVOLVED.

THE PRICE OF THE EQUIPMENT IN THE COMPUTER SOFTWARE INCLUDING BENEFITS AND THAT SORT OF THING CALCULATING IT OUT. IT'S FAIRLY EASY TO CALCULATE THE COST PER COLLECTION OR COST

PER DOLLAR. >> I DON'T RECALL THAT WE MADE A FINAL DECISION ON OUR TAX COLLECTION CONTRACT. WHAT DOES THIS ITEM DO TO THAT?

>> I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE ANY IMPACT. PYOU ARE LOOKING AT A YEAR AWAY FOR THE LEGISLATURE. THIS IS AN INTERIM COMMITTEE. THEY ARE STUDYING THE ISSUE.

I DON'T KNOW WOULD HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE CONTRACT THE COUNTY WERE TO SIGN THIS YEAR

>> AND THEN WE ARE WE IN TERMS OF DECIDING THAT CONTRACT?

>> WE ARE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. IT'S A PRETTY BIG WORKING COMMITTEE AND THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT HAS TO BE GATHERED TOGETHER.

>> SINCE WE HAVE ALREADY VOTED ON WE NEED TO CHANGE IT FROM THE OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE RELATIONS TO THE OFFICE OF INTERGALACTIC RELATIONS OR WHATEVER OUR NEW NAME IS.

>>. [LAUGHTER] >>.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> WAS I CLEAR ON THE POINT? TO COME UP WITH LANGUAGE YOU

CAN UNDERSTAND. >> WHAT'S THE MOTION?

>> I BELIEVE SO. I WANT TO ADD THAT, WE HAVE NOT SET A CEILING.

ON HOW MUCH THE PENALTY CAN BE. >> WE CAN WRITE THAT UP.

>> ON WHAT IT SHOULD BE. >> AND OBVIOUSLY THE REPORT WE SHARE THE INFORMATION FROM THE WORKGROUP THAT IS MEETING AND STILL HAVING MEETINGS AS THEY PREPARE THE INTERIM REPORT.

>> IF SOMETHING COMES OUT OF IT. WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE INTERIM GROUP REVIEW AND THE CONTRACT IS YOU HAVE 2 VENDORS, BOTH GOING MONTH-TO-MONTH SO THE ONE WHO IS ANGRY IS BENEFITING. I GET THAT.

AND PART OF THE THOUGHT IS TO CREATE SOME COMPETITION AND I TOLD MR. RYAN, MY OPINION IS YOU HAVE 2 PEOPLE FIGHTING TO KEEP THIS LAW FROM BEING CHANGED AT ALL.

THERE'S A REASON WHY THIS LAW HAS BEEN INPLACE ALL THIS TIME FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I WANT THEM TO GIVE ME CREDIT FOR THE INTERIM CHARGE. I WISH THEY HAD THAT MUCH POWER. I'M FLATTERED THAT THEY THINK I HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.

I DIDN'T.UT IF SOMETHING COMES OUT OF IT. I JUST DIDN'T WANT THIS HEARING TO COME UP AND IS A LEAP OF FAITH. REAL LEADERSHIP FOR THEM TO EVEN TALK ABOUT IT AND THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY DISCUSSIONS OF THEM DOING ANYTHING SO I THINK IS THE LARGEST COUNTY IN THE STATE AND ONE THAT BACKED AWAY FROM WHAT MOST COUNTIES

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ARE ENDURING BECAUSE THE TOLLROAD CAME BACK IN-HOUSE. THEY OUGHT TO KNOW THAT AND THEY KNOW WE OUGHT TO APPRECIATE THEM LOOKING AT IT AND GETTING INPUT ALONG THE WAY. I AM ASSUMING THERE WOULD BE MORE THAN ONE HEARING ON IT.

>> THE WORD I AM GETTING IS THAT THIS MIGHT BE THE ONLY HEARING ON IT.BUT THEY WILL

BE WORKING ON IT. >> WE NEED TO THROW UP EVERYTHING WE CAN. IT'S AN ABOMINATION, THE WAY THIS OPERATES.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.E JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T SIT BACK AND JUST MONITOR IT.

WE NEED TO GET IN THE GAME. >> THERE IS A MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM 2 WE ALREADY PAST. CORRECT? ITEM 3. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THAT PERSONAL QUESTION. ITEM 4. WE ALREADY DISCUSSED.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WE DISCUSSED. ITEM 6, WE DISCUSSED. ITEM 7, I THINK WE HAVE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THAT ONE AS WELL.

>> IT SEEMS TO ME AS MUCH DISCUSSION GOES ON ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH.

WE RUN INTO SITUATIONS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE HERE BUT A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER TO ASK QUESTIONS SO I THINK THEY NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY THEY DO THIS.

I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ACTUAL DIRECTOR, THIS IS A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER, TO

ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> FROM MY STANDPOINT, ANY TIME I HAVE CALLED A DIRECTOR, IF HE IS HERE DOING IMPORTANT WORK FOR US, OR SOMEWHERE ELSE IN WASHINGTON OR AUSTIN, FROM MY STANDPOINT, IT HASN'T BEEN A PROBLEM.

I KNOW HE IS DEALING WITH ISSUES RIGHT NOW RELATED TO THE LATEST VIRUS, HOPING IT DOES NOT BECOME A PANDEMIC. SOMETIMES THAT REQUIRES HIM TO TRAVEL BUT I THINK HE'S DOING A GOOD JOB. I KNOW ON A DIFFICULT DAY, FOR ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO CREATE MORE UNCERTAINTY OR IN ANY WAY MAKE PEOPLE FEEL DISPARAGED SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW HE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB IN THE CASE WITH ALL OF OUR

>> THANK YOU, JUDGE. AND I WANT TO GO OFF OF COMMISSIONER ANALYÃTHE REQUEST SURPRISING BECAUSE IN MOST CASES, THERE HAS BEEN AN IMMEDIATE NEED TO GET TO DOCTOR SHAW. HE HAS BEEN THERE. I HAVE SEEN HIM DO INTERVIEWS.

I AM PERPLEXED BY THE QUESTION BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT FOR ONE DIRECTOR, WE NEED TO DO IT FOR ALL DIRECTORS. AND I THINK NONETHELESS, THE DIRECTORS ALL HAVE BEEN PHENOMENAL AT JUGGLING MANY THINGS. THAT COME UP AND FROM THE TIME THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH ITC, DOCTOR SHAW WAS AT THE OEM ALMOST DAY AND NIGHT AND WE DEALT WITH THE OTHER ISSUES DOCTOR SHAW WAS THERE SO I KNOW THE GUYS AVAILABLE AND I THINK INSTEAD OF SINGLING OUT ONE DEPARTMENT LET'S MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO ALL DIRECTORS.

I THINK MOST OF OUR DIRECTORS ARE NORMALLY HERE.

>> I SAW DOCTOR SHAH EARLIER. >> I DON'T WANT TO PAY HIM OVERTIME. BECAUSE SOMEBODY MIGHT SAY APPLY TO COMMISSIONERS.

THERE HE IS. >> DOCTOR SHAW, YOU DID REMIND ME COMMISSIONER GARCIA OF WHEN WE HAD TO ÃTOGETHER MONITORS IN LIGHT OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OCTOR SHAW, I THINK YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB.

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>> LIKEWISE. >> GOOD EVENING.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> SO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM 2.

WE NEED TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THE REAPPOINTMENT?

>> I WANT TO MOVE ON THE APPOINTMENT.

>> I SECOND. >> 2020?

>> 2022. >> THE CHANGE.

2021 THROUGH 2022. THE CHANGE NEEDS TO BE ON THERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING >> DO YOU WANT TO VOTE ON THAT?

>> ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED?

MOTION CARRIES. >> ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? ITEM 1 ON EXECUTIVE SESSION.

LET'S GO. >> HE HAS NOT BEEN RETURNING MY CALLS. SO I TOOK HIM OFF.

>> HE DID NOT COME AND SEE ME IN MY OFFICE.

>> OKAY. LET'S GO UP TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[Item III]

>> WE HAVE AN ITEM FOR THE DISTRICT CLERK, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A CALL TO ORDER PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE RECORD PRESERVATION AND RESTORATION PLAN FOR PHYSICAL YEAR 2020 THROUGH 2021. IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 305 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THE RECORDS PRESERVATION PLAN? HAVING A SPEAKERS I WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEM.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED?

[Item IV (Part 2 of 2) ]

THE MOTION CARRIES. GOING BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

ITEM 3. DO YOU FOLKS NEED TO GO BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THAT?

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> THIS IS YOUR APPOINTMENT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ÃITEM 3 UNDER EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR COMMISSIONER CABLE, DO WE NEED TO GO BACK FOR THIS?

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVE.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. ITEM ABC. NUMBER FIVE.

DOES ANYONE NEED TO GO BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES. NUMBER SIX, I BELIEVE WE DO NEED TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS ONE. CORRECT?

>> 6A. AND I NEED TO POINT OUT ITEM 6 A.

[INDISCERNIBLE] DISCUSSION. [INDISCERNIBLE] TERMS. [INDISCERNIBLE] WHAT IMPACT

COUNTIES. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> OKAY.

>>. [INDISCERNIBLE] WE DO NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[INDISCERNIBLE]. >> OKAY.

>> SIX AB. THAT'S IT. SO IN THAT CASE, LET'S TAKE A MOTION ON THE REST OF THE AGENDA EXCEPT FOR ITEM THREE UNDER SUPPLEMENTAL ITEMS AND IT'S A PERSONAL MATTER AND ITEM 6 AMB AS WELL.

>> SECONDS. >> ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. IT IS 6:11 PM WE WILL GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ITEMS 6A ON PAGE 33 FOR PERSONAL MATTER, 6A ON Ã6A ON PAGE 33. THE VALUE OF A PROPERTY.

SIX BE ON CONFERRING WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND ALSO ITEM 3

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>> 6:56 PM WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. ON ITEM 6B COUNTY ATTORNEY,

WATCH MOTION? >> THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IS REQUESTING THE LAW FIRM OF LEWIS BRISCOE SPECIFICALLY. [INDISCERNIBLE] THAT FIRM BE RETAINED TO REPRESENT COUNCILMEMBER DIAZ IN A CASE PENDING.

[INDISCERNIBLE]. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES. AND FINALLY, AND FINALLY THE TOLL ROAD AUTHORITY, WE WILL HOLD FOR NEXT. [INDISCERNIBLE].

>> HOLD OR TAKE NO ACTION? >> NO ACTION.

[Item V]

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE? SPEAKERS.

RIGHT. THERE IS JOHN WARREN. STEVE WILLIAMS. BRETT CAMPBELL. BASIL. [INDISCERNIBLE] ED.

[INDISCERNIBLE] ASHLEY FROM. TRAVIS HARDWICK. ALISON LEWIS.

ROBERTA. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW

THINGS. >>.

[LAUGHTER] >> IT 6:58

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